brewersalliance

The Black Order (Imran Ehsan, Robert2424, Lyner, and Preston) has defeated the Avengers. The most surprising thing to me is that I was lynched by only townies. Yeah scum did a good job avoiding your wagon. (Which I did say that Kevin’s wagon was all town )

Oh damn and you’re the one who got all the shit for the tony kill from lww Who did you suggest for the kills

what do u mean?

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Robert was still scum to me, but imran gave a lot of solid scum tells and evidence, and i felt it would be a lot easier to get town to follow on him to lynch him. not sure why MK didnt switch to iman at the end tbh, and it really hurt DF and velo didnt vote at all in my mind, if imran was lynched, lyner would have been a very easy follow up lynch from where i pointed out there similar posts, and then robert. preston did a good job hiding for almost the whole game, def gotta give him credit. what flipped him to scum in my mind was how he was really just posting summaries and not posting actual content and then kept slowly changing his opinion on me. it felt very planned at that point, so to me if there were three scum it was imran lyner robert and if 4 it was him with them props to scum tho for how they played the last day. knew it was mylo, so they made sure to get the inactive guy since it was an easy lynch.

dark fox and velo not voting fucked us and MK u voting robert when no one else was hurt too. imran should have been the lynch, and we wouldnt have lost...

called the whole fucking team....

At most 50% chance of scum? I broke down the known roles v unknown. 6 unknown players. If 3 scum then 50% chance he is scum If four scum then 66% chance he is scum…. So how would imran know the max chance is 50%? If he is scum and knows there are only 3 scum in the game. Only way he could actually know that for sure. Imran is scum

Vanilla does make sense for his name, bruce banner was useless in the movie

Pretty sure isoc is gonna be scum… with this game so late and no scum dead and the potential for this to be MYLO if there are four scum, I don’t see TW not replacing him, considering I’ve asked him serveral times to do so. He could have brought back LWW or tony to take over, especially with the potential for the game to be on the line. Would be a very shitty way for town to lose. Im not gonna hammer isoc on the off chance TW brings someone in at the 11th hour but I doubt he will. Okay so zacch and I both have protective roles. I’m hesitant to discuss who we should protect as scum could then game plan around it. However at the same time Velo has a stone and we need to make sure he is protected. Scum have a role blocker so if we don’t both go on velo they could block one of us and the kill him. I’m kind of torn if we should game plan or not.

Anyways that’s my Preston thought More thoughts using the isoc wagon Votes on isoc: Robert, Preston, zacch (town), lyner I think lyners position on this wagon is clear: If isoc is indeed scum and inactive, lyners vote could very well be a buss. Isoc is the clear favorite to be lynched and we are getting close to deadline If isoc is town, it puts him safely ahead with a fourth vote and basically secures the lunch of an inactive townie and moves scum very close to getting a win Lyner being where he is on the wagon and voting when he did, (just recently) as well as the other things I mentioned makes him entrenched as my number 2 scum Imran is my top scum Lyner #2 Robert 3 Preston/Mk both wildcards Isoc inactive and needs to be replaced no matter what his alignment is tbh

Given that I have become more concerned about Brewers since his claim and have openly speculated that he is Thanos, I am not surprised to see him turn a FOS on me in response. Speaking to what he says about my style: A lot of what I do is look for inconsistencies/oddities or unanswered questions and then see where the answers go. What is possible, what is proven or provable, etc. Being complete in that is part of why my posts tend to be pretty long, and repeating/restating what brought me to a given point is part of keeping my analysis consistent. Brewers was pretty solidly in my likely Town list until today when we had to reexamine our suspect list and the question of what was going on with DF came up. The oddity of your N1 lack-of-action and then the coincidence of your claimed getting a doctor power at the same time Thanos got the Doctor's Time stone is something I can't ignore, and I don't think anyone else should either. There are very valid reasons to be skeptical about an unproven/unprovable claim at this stage in the game, much as MK is/was skeptical of Velocity's unhelpful results and how Kevin's claim drew such attention. This new information has indeed adjusted my suspect list, as it should. That you are not currently the TOP of my suspect list is because I acknowledge how your claim /could/ be accurate, I am hoping for something more definitive to work with tomorrow that will settle your case. For the time being iSoc2 remains my #1 suspect for today, and I am sticking with that unless something else changes. As for the idea that I avoid committing to anything though... kindly refer to how hard I pushed for Velocity on D3 prior to his roleclaim, based on his end-of-D2 actions and inconsistency he showed between D2 and D3 stances. Also how hard I am pushing for iSoc2 now, based on his D2 avoidance tactic and D2/D3 attacks on LWW, combined with sporadic presence that's kept him under the radar. I restate these positions in most of my posts, so I should hope they are not easily missed. Saying that I have avoided committing to anything is very much not accurate. I am not going to imitate your/Imran's back-and-forth attacks in the vein of "you misrepresent me, you must be lying, lynch all liars!" because you can see me however you want. I think I have been pretty clear in my facts about why I am concerned about you based on today's claim, so it is not like I suddenly swapped to attack you out of nowhere. As for your hypothetical about me being scum and then trying to claim it wasn't me on the wagon - If you are a lynch that happens today or tomorrow and you flip town, then I don't think anyone would believe I was not involved with that, nor would I claim it. My reasons are an open book - a long series of books even, as people have joked multiple times this game. I don't see any posts from him today either. See my earlier post for a suspicion that he will somehow conveniently pop up again with hours to go, having watched the thread in the meantime. If he really IS town and is just genuinely being inactive, then you're right that he probably shouldn't have accepted being Bryan's replacement. It doesnt make a lot of sense though, because he WAS abruptly active around Velocity's near-lynch yesterday... so he was able to be here when he WANTED to be, but then he went silent again. This is a large part of the reason that I am convinced he's really scum. With ~1.5 days left in the deadline, any action TW takes will be last minute. Obviously it's up to him as mod, but I don't think we as players can say something like "Only replace him if he is town, otherwise let him die as scum" because that would be asking the mod to basically tell us iSoc2's alignment before the day ends. As much as I'd love a no-risk scenario like that, it would be utterly gamebreaking and feel like cheating. I mean considering there are 10 players alive and either 3 or 4 scum and it’s not velo, dark fox, zacch, (or me since I know I’m town), to me that means that there is a 50-66% chance that Preston, MK, lyner, isoc, imran and Robert are scum. Did an FoS on present cause I’m pretty sure I accused lyner, imran, and Robert of being scum before and odds are I am not 100% correct on those three, isoc is inactive so we can’t really go by anything other than that one vote of his on d2 I think, MK I’m still leaning prob town because he’s playing like MK does when he’s town. So yeah. Everyone needs to be scrutinized at this point of the game and I feel like everyone has other than Preston- he’s mainly gotten a pass cause of his massively long posts that for the most part to me do not feel like fresh thoughts and rather just summaries of what other people have said first. He could very well be town, but he’s basically been ignored as a possible suspect all game, mainly cause of the insane length of his posts. I have no issues with him talking about me but for me it just feels interesting how his progression has been. I still feel imran is the best choice for the lunch, but looks like it’s gonna be isoc. OOC- why would isoc come back into the game as a replacement only to not participate? Confused me If there are four scum and we lose cause of a mis lynch on an inactive player, I think we have every right to be very mad at the mod for not replacing him…

I’ve DMd TW a few times asking him to replace isoc but he hasn’t responded so I’m guessing we are stuck with him through deadline

FOS Preston His posts are all super long but they are also super repetitive… and he’s pretty much avoided committing to anything this entire game. It’s starting to feel a bit off. And one thing that does stand out to me here: each time he posts he seems to slowly be moving me up his “scum list” Feels like he might be waiting to see if lynching me gains any traction before he commits to voting for me. Or even he’s trying to point out reasons for people to vote me without having to vote me himself Hypothetical: if he is scum and gets people to vote me he can try to claim he stayed off my wagon when I flip town… Just a thought

That actually makes sense per the thanos thing- maybe a scum joat that gains abilities as he gets the stones. As far as me and no action on n1… it wasn’t that I chose not to do an action, I didn’t have any action available for me night one. I’m not going to be around this weekend so I might as well just claim now to be safe since I’m not sure when I’ll be able to respond to anything I’m Wanda, an avenger universal backup. I gain the ability of the first avenger power role to die. So obviously no one was lynched D1 so I had no ability n1. When strange died and we lost our doctor N1 I gained his ability. N1 no action N2 dark fox N3 velocity I kept saying the dark fox thing to try to bait scum into attacking dark fox and protect him and prevent a scum kill. I had a convo with TW about it, I wanted to make sure I didn’t cross any lines since the post was in the PM thread for his action, and I felt like if I shared Dark fox was the tracker that would be using ooc shit to gain an advantage, but also since everyone could have seen the dark fox post I was curious what TWs thoughts were on it- ie if he agreed with me that saying dark fox was the tracker would be using ooc stuff to bait scum. I felt it was but I also just wanted his opinion and he agreed that it was so instead of bringing up with DF did I tried to make it seem like I had some reason to know he was town and draw the scum kill to him that way so I could block it. In addition I also protected DF cause he was the only known power role to me at the time and if scum saw his DM like I did they might try to kill him On N3 I picked velocity mainly cause of the stone. I also thought zacch would protect LWW since Zach was a newer players and might not think about the stone collection and just go for the doctor. And part of me is worried velo and I are secret lovers and what would happen if one of us died. I was hoping I would get us coverage over both. I tried writing up a post telling Zach to protect the cop to make scum try to role block lww, and kill velocity so I could protect velo and stop the kill with scum thinking velo is u guarded so they can kill the watcher And Get a stone, but instead he’d be protected by me and he would see who the role blocker was on lww and we would prevent the scum kill at the same time. Unfortunately I clicked post like three min after deadline and the ten min I spent working on the post was for nothing since TW locked the thread exactly at deadline and the post failed.