Ferastical

brewers- 905 LS - 605 Crozier Captain - 557 Ferastical - 484 Torres951 - 419 Eogrim - 240 King Cankles - 172 Rhizo - 166 murphpk - 163 Theophilos - 143 RR - 139 Hertt - 114 dagonslayer51 - 111 SealTeamPi - 103 AngelCruzdelaSant - 87 Tony Maurice- 85 MWilson - 84 Fermion- 81 GHAWS - 80 grats! Samudragupta - 49 George Jarvis - 46 captainjf - 38 And I'm out, PEACE legoboyvdlp - 24 Lachiton - 21 Mazuurek - 19 Jarcine1221 - 18 spike2 - 14 myrrdin Emrys - 13 MorganFreeman - 13 Yamuna - 13 theWanderer - 11 PenguiNation - 11 LegendOfStein - 9 JayMillz - 6 Leche06 - 6 Odbody - 5 Mandarijn - 4 Rolento - 4 Atliis - 4 Sithon - 3 Kaziocore - 3 sukmaindra9 - 3 1ceCream - 3 Colonel Medved - 3 Aztek - 3 Whitebeard - 2 SaveStation - 2 cmdrnchf - 2 Robert2424 - 1 Omahen - 1 Red General - 1 baldeagle92 -1

Had me in the first half, not gonna lie

brewers- 905 LS - 605 Crozier Captain - 552 hmmmm Ferastical - 483 we don't talk about what happened Nov 15-Dec 24 Torres951 - 415 Now I'm BACK back. I promise! Eogrim - 240 King Cankles - 172 Rhizo - 166 murphpk - 163 Theophilos - 143 RR - 139 Hertt - 114 dagonslayer51 - 111 SealTeamPi - 103 AngelCruzdelaSant - 87 Tony Maurice- 85 MWilson - 84 Fermion- 81 GHAWS - 80 grats! Samudragupta - 49 George Jarvis - 46 captainjf - 38 And I'm out, PEACE legoboyvdlp - 24 Lachiton - 21 Mazuurek - 19 Jarcine1221 - 18 spike2 - 14 myrrdin Emrys - 13 MorganFreeman - 13 Yamuna - 13 theWanderer - 11 PenguiNation - 11 LegendOfStein - 9 JayMillz - 6 Leche06 - 6 Odbody - 5 Mandarijn - 4 Rolento - 4 Atliis - 4 Sithon - 3 Kaziocore - 3 sukmaindra9 - 3 1ceCream - 3 Colonel Medved - 3 Aztek - 3 Whitebeard - 2 SaveStation - 2 cmdrnchf - 2 Robert2424 - 1 Omahen - 1 Red General - 1 baldeagle92 -1

Yes, actually... I turned 17 last week, so in celebration of me being 1 year away from the legal drinking age, beers are on me! (funny joke, much laughs) In all seriousness, I have been inactive for like a week. Props to Lyner who voted on me... for others, I think this serves a perfect representation of the grudges we're bringing in from older games. (Talking about other people who have voted of course, no-lynchers don't fall under this context) This is now officially a bruh moment. As it stands, this is, after all, D1. Nobody has any clue what is going on. So frick those who collectively jumped on LWW AND frick those who are advocating for him. It's every man's for himself out here. People have been making sense - we have a lot of PRs to work with here, but they're also night specific and seemingly set up so that at the very most half of the town can use their power at any given night... and most PRs lose their power after N3/N4. So for now, town has advantage that we have to make sure we use properly. I do not want to vote no lynch, never planned to, but it would be really shitty not to do so. Vote -> No Lynch

You want some numbers? How about this - if we don't lynch... there's a 100% chance we won't lynch scum today! Then again, there's also a 100% chance of not lynching a townie. I guess it's up to yourself to choose which side of the coin you find positive. Seeing as we have 12 DAYS left, I don't really feel rushed to vote on anyone. Also, sorry for my inactivity. Have been busy making a list of the top 10 people I'm going to kill first in this gam

GG This whole game I thought that the SK would have no knowledge of the state of the switches... I dunno, I liked the idea of it being way more nerve wracking that way, the SK having to take a wild guess each night, which switch to reverse and so forth. Of course they're just gonna flip everything off all the time otherwise Also yeah, probably the fifth time someone said this in this thread but Tony went all out as a VT with that cop claim, really would like to hear the backstory to that one It was crazy enough to make me believe him. Not like 100% but enough to make me certain he wasn't affiliated with scum.

*sigh* Here goes. Vote -> Tony Maurice

it's like the night of the living dead here Velocity, whatd'ya thinking about this hammering position we've been left in?

I ain't even mad to be fair, kind of flattered even. This is the second time someone has written a short story on what they think about me and I enjoy reading those. Guess I'll try to explain myself a little to Tony: > D1 When I said I don't like to support grudges, I meant actual grudges brought over from other games. Just because Rafay hasn't been as active and town-minded in other games (which got him his bad reputation with some folks), doesn't mean it's definitely going to turn out the same way this time. But it seemed like I had been proven wrong and Rafay was on yet another train to Lynch Town, Lynchusetts, with me and a bunch of other people in the driver's seat. In a sudden plot twist though, Rafay actually became somewhat active, responding to what we had said, which I really liked, so I decided to remove my vote on him. His following posts disappointed me again. I didn't even want to say anything. > D2 Wait, what did I do on D2? Oh. If you look closely, you'll see I said at least one sentence. Just voting without any context is weird for me. So, at the very least, one sentence. The more, the merrier, don't you think? Saying you'll provide reasoning in the next possible timeframe you're visiting the forums is something I don't consider scummy, because it lets us know that at least you have something to share with us and for whatever reason you can't do it in the moment, for example you're going out to get a pet dog, or you're giving birth, or perhaps your new pet dog is now giving birth to some handsome puppies... you see? The point I'm trying to make is that we have real life stuff to take care of as well, no need to be ashamed to postpone something here. Now, about generating discussion by voting - you might not entirely realize the extent of it. Whenever we place a vote, we don't just do it for the duration of that one day, alright? It affects the whole game in general, as in people analyzing each other's votes, talking about them, bringing them up as possible evidence, and so forth. Heck, we're even generating discussion right now, you know? See how magical it is? That's kind of why I also gave up the notion of No Lynch in most cases. Placing even an uncertain vote tells others your current position and feelings towards others, one thing that is quite important. Also, at the end you mentioned "At least you stuck with your vote and didn't drop off at the end!" Uhh, you act as if what I did on D1 was like... a bad play? Come on, I mean, you can say it was suspicious, but I definitely had my own reasons there. > D3 You come around one moment with a cop claim stating that Brewers was your scum result. I thought you could put two and two together and make a logical insight into my vote, but I was wrong to assume that. Should've given you more sentences to enjoy. Furthermore, as I said in my reasoning post, there are certain hints and clues to whether a person might be playing an act or not. It all comes down to our very own psychology - I do not want to go into detail about what I observe in each post, because 1) it'd take a really long time for me to put it all into words and 2) once I tell everything, people are going to act differently, which I don't want, because that makes stuff harder for me in the future. > D4 I said thanks to brewers because whenever there's a stalemate in a mafia game between two people with uncertain roles, just thinking about it and every little aspect causes me enough stress to after a while get a headache. Not having one is always a pleasure. Think of my brain as a computer, trying to find proof why some person might be scum or not - obviously, that would take immensely huge calculating power. And Velocity's story is possible, you can't deny that. Also what the heck my mans, I was on your side, now you turn against me? Not fun In conclusion though, I do not have any actual feels for who might be scum. I don't know about Tony, if you're asking me. I might go and read through some older posts, see if I find anything useful.

Oh, sorry! I remembered wrong My point still stands though!

Instead you faked some "no result" and threw shade on Finster. Mate, you lied to us twice already, now you're asking us to still trust you. See how those ideas collide?

Geez this actually sounds believable... but it makes me wonder what was the motive for Tony to fake claim? If he's mafia, bussing a teammate with the SK still alive doesn't seem that fair to be honest. Perhaps he's an SK that wanted to provide himself with a townie vibe for the rest of the game?... at the very least it seems plausible. But how the heck did he guess Brewers? Was it luck? Because if it was just a guess, then what would he have done if Brewers ended up townie? Oh wait, then the town would be put past LYLO and since the SK probably chose Mafia immunity, it's pretty much a decided game. Also the fact that I don't see any posts from Tony after Brewers put his true claim forward... Oh my god. But now that I think about it, the remaining 2 town and 2 mafia would've just voted Tony off, because they had a reason to. Doesn't seem like that smart of a plan anymore.

yes, that's what I meant by both

The fact that MK said that the cop can now get a result of certain factions makes me think the SK picked Mafia Immunity. He probably changed it because the Vigilante got assassinated right away, so the factions needed a bit of balancing.

Both chose Lilweirdward? Interesting. Thank you Brewers, for yesterday. You saved me from a headache and that's worth something. Tony, who we lynching today? I always assume a cold weapon to be SK's weapon of choice, guns I associate more with mafia. Dunno about this game tho.

Oh, I forgot about that game, but that wasn't the one I was thinking about. It was on another forum, some long time ago now. Truth is, I want to believe in Tony. He has just been roaming around in previous games, not doing much and never really contributing, but this game has been different. That makes you think, right? He has to be putting in effort for something. Either he is a cop and is really trying hard to push forward his findings (sure, making some mistakes along the way) or he is scum/SK, trying out a very bold strategy to force us into an endgame that would be advantageous for him. In both cases, he's atleast contributing to play, so I don't want to discourage it by immediately jumping on his wagon because of the things he said. D2, I was on board with Kevin. I had a strong feeling he was town, I wasn't 100% sure, yes, but still, some part of me knew. All that because of the previous actions he had done. All I got in response was "oh, this is a common strategy that" and "every scum knows how to act this". But deep down inside, we're all simple humans, it all just comes down to our psychology. Once you've been granted some role in a mafia game, there are some actions people want to strictly avoid. Analyzing a game with 3 different factions unfortunately becomes 100 times more difficult than with 2, and mistakes can be made, for example, I didn't take heavily into account that Kevin might've been an SK, I will admit that. But always doubting yourself isn't a good thing to do either. Who I've decided to vote for now is not because of the claims we have been presented with on D3. My judgement goes back further, the moment we made our first posts on this thread. Tony's claim matches with what he has said in the past. And don't pretend you haven't lied a single bit - some time after Tony's claim you said to him, and I quote "since the cop can also get a result on the sk, he would either get a result of guilty or not guilty, or town/not town." Now yes, you said later that you could've missed the post where MK explained it, but at that point in time in the game this sentence could be regarded as a lie just as much as anything Tony has said. No matter the outcome, I just want to praise both Brewers and Tony for this amazing duel of the minds. Both have shown great dedication, that they are not in this game to give up. This will most definitely be a good game to read through once it's finished.

Thank you, I needed that

For that 1 minute, he was at 5, yes. Oh wait, yeah, he's on 3 now, fake alert Guess I can't do simple arithmetic Thank god mate, I was about to pass out

Did you see that you removed your vote 1 minute after FB placed it? So technically Tony is dead now, if we're playing by the rules.

I mean, what Tony is saying is believable. I did a bold claim in a game once, people believed me, so, I think I want to return the favour. Vote -> Brewersalliance Also, as I said D2, I'm super not comfortable with Lyner and Brewers being on the same wagon. I do think someone would've minded, to be fair. Especially if the mod-killed person was a townie. And you can stop saying "I'm cop, brewers scum" in every post, I think we get it by now Alright, as I was writing this, FB changed his vote to Tony and Lyner unvoted. Huh. Makes me think. WAIT, DID TONY JUST GET LYNCHED?

Wasn't sure where I saw it, but here it is. Since Tony said that his result was "Not Town", he definitely lost most of my trust right now.

Dang, that ain't good. Some people, including me, still need to make posts, so I'm going to remove my vote in case anyone wishes to hammer and get me mod killed in the process, nearly dodged that. Unvote I'm still convinced it's Brewers, though.

Well, this is certainly interesting. To me so far Tony seems quite genuine with his posts, meanwhile Brewers comes off as desperate to save his skin. Either that claim is fake or not, kudos to Tony, it looks very real in either case. FB trying to redirect our attention from the fight going on was confusing, to say the least. i don't know what he was doing, possibly like a last minute attempt at defending or just a wild accusation for Velocity... in any case, I think FB will have to start talking soon, as it's not looking good for him. This I remember as well. Vote -> Brewersalliance If I remember correct, this totals for Brewers at 4 votes... leaving us at L-1. I hope. So we could possibly chat a bit more.

Goddamn, I knew it, those bastards are going to frame me... again! The last posts on D2 are literally about CoD sussing me. I swear, I had nothing to do with this.

brewers- 905 LS - 605 Crozier Captain - 550 Ferastical - 482 Been some time, huh? Torres951 - 414 Eogrim - 240 King Cankles - 172 Rhizo - 166 murphpk - 163 Theophilos - 143 RR - 139 Hertt - 114 dagonslayer51 - 111 SealTeamPi - 103 AngelCruzdelaSant - 87 Tony Maurice- 85 MWilson - 84 Fermion- 81 GHAWS - 80 grats! Samudragupta - 49 George Jarvis - 46 captainjf - 38 And I'm out, PEACE legoboyvdlp - 24 Lachiton - 21 Mazuurek - 19 Jarcine1221 - 18 spike2 - 14 myrrdin Emrys - 13 MorganFreeman - 13 Yamuna - 13 theWanderer - 11 PenguiNation - 11 LegendOfStein - 9 JayMillz - 6 Leche06 - 6 Odbody - 5 Mandarijn - 4 Rolento - 4 Atliis - 4 Sithon - 3 Kaziocore - 3 sukmaindra9 - 3 1ceCream - 3 Colonel Medved - 3 Aztek - 3 Whitebeard - 2 SaveStation - 2 cmdrnchf - 2 Robert2424 - 1 Omahen - 1 Red General - 1 baldeagle92 -1