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[CanucksDynasty]

@Kazio - looks like your suggestion is a go. We can effectively narrow down the suspects this way.


Townie
CD - I'm asking for town to lynch me if I have same characteristics as mafia.
Kazio - came up with a way to get more info from a single question

Undecided
KevinH - originally suggested asking 2 questions but not in great detail
Nerau - posted nothing substantial
Theophilos - not posted

[CanucksDynasty]

@Everyone - please select 2 characteristics you would like us to ask the mod.

[Kaziocore]

What should we do if I have the same characteristics as mafia?
What should we do if I don't have the same characteristics as mafia?

I am assuming that the mafia can night kill.

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If you have the same characteristics as the mafia, I'll still let you live until tomorrow.
Then we can ask another question to confirm if you really are scum.
Though be prepared that there's a possibility that the scum would suggest
something he/she is common to you so we will be suspicious of you.

My gut feeling tells me that Narsis wouldn't reveal the mafia's info at the start of the game
and if we lynch you and we're wrong, then that would a large blow to us (because you're pro at this game)

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If you don't have the same characteristics as the mafia,
then there will be one less suspect but we will probably lose CD.

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Though I think even if you have only one same characteristics as the mafia, you'll probably still
be night killed because like what I said, it's dangerous for the mafia to let you live because you're pro.
(Unless the mafia would trick me to kill somebody else for that matter so I might be suspicious of you)
So you have to play like this would be your last day on earth or something.

[Kaziocore]

So my suggestion right now for the question is like
Does the mafia has brown hair, brown eyes, dark skin color, and a necklace and is male?
so that we will have 1 less suspect each time we do it.

So we will have like this
Assuming scum can night kill and will kill the known townie
Day X: (Suspects/Townie)
Day 1: 4/1
Day 2: 2/1
So in the last day we will have 50% chance of finding the scum.

The game where the mafia can't night kill will give us more chances of winning against the scum.

So any comments people?

[CanucksDynasty]

@Kazio - I believe the MOD said that your previous suggestion was the most that we could do.
Your recent suggestion is basically...is CD mafia? Which is not a valid question...as per rules posted.

Even if don't get lynched today...I'll probably be nightkilled solely for the reason that I am information for the town.

[Kaziocore]

Oh okay :[
So any suggestions on what to ask?

[CanucksDynasty]

Oh okay :[
So any suggestions on what to ask?

I asked that question to Everyone...what 2 characteristics do you want to ask?
I'll give my thoughts after everyone gives their input.

[Nerau]

i say lets start with the first two

hair/eye colour and do what kazicore is suggesting and then we know at least something going into the next day.

[KevinH]

I like this set-up. It's a good thinking game.

I think it is in the town's best interest to gather as much inform as possible and then make the best lynch possible.

We only have 2 mis-lynches to give.
Day 1: Mis-lynch townie
Night 1: Townie night-killed
Day 2: Mis-lynch townie
Night 2: Townie night-killed and game over.

However, if we no-lynch on only one of the first 2 days, the scum will win because there would be only 2 players remaining on day 3.

If we no-lynch for 2 days, we would have 3 players going into day 3 which could force the lynch of the scum. (And there would be an extra question answered)

Vote: No-lynch

[KevinH]

If CD is townie, the scum will kill him.
It's not because he's a pro, but because his information has been revealed.
The combination of all 3 questions could totally clear some players with their information revealed.

@MOD: Can we self-reveal our characteristics?

If we are allowed, I propose that we reveal our own characteristics now. That will help us in 2 ways. 1) If the true reveal shows that somebody lied about their characteristics, that would be a good indication that they are scum. 2) The questions we ask can be applied against all players, not just the remaining one revealed because the scum will kill off the others that were revealed earlier.

[KevinH]

Does the mafia has (brown hair and brown eyes) or (black hair and green eyes) ?

IF the answer is NO...then mafia would have black hair and brown eyes.

Not quite. In this case if the answer is NO, then the mafia could possibly have brown hair and green eyes.

I propose that the question be "Does the mafia have (brown hair and a necklace) or (black hair and glasses)?"

[Narsis]

@Kazio - I believe the MOD said that your previous suggestion was the most that we could do.
Your recent suggestion is basically...is CD mafia? Which is not a valid question...as per rules posted.

this is correct.

as for Kevin's question...i would say no. perhaps in a larger game with slightly different rules i would allow it...but in a game this size i specifically set up the rules the way they are to prevent the town from getting too much info while also avoiding giving them too little.

as for Theo i'm going to throw him a quick prod.

[Narsis]

this is correct.

as for Kevin's question...i would say no. perhaps in a larger game with slightly different rules i would allow it...but in a game this size i specifically set up the rules the way they are to prevent the town from getting too much info while also avoiding giving them too little.

as for Theo i'm going to throw him a quick prod.

thought i should clarify this a bit...i was referring to Kevin's question on whether self-revealing characteristics was allowed.

[Narsis]

I like this set-up. It's a good thinking game.

I think it is in the town's best interest to gather as much inform as possible and then make the best lynch possible.

We only have 2 mis-lynches to give.
Day 1: Mis-lynch townie
Night 1: Townie night-killed
Day 2: Mis-lynch townie
Night 2: Townie night-killed and game over.

However, if we no-lynch on only one of the first 2 days, the scum will win because there would be only 2 players remaining on day 3.

If we no-lynch for 2 days, we would have 3 players going into day 3 which could force the lynch of the scum. (And there would be an extra question answered)

Vote: No-lynch

knew i forgot something in that post of mine...

just so you are aware, a no lynch results in a random person being lynched. it is impossible to no one to be lynched. the reason is to prevent the very thing you are suggesting.

[Theophilos]

Ouch Narsis, next time try prodding without a pitchfork

Anyway, the combination question sounds good.

We might also make an assumption, that (a) Narsis gave a clue to how mafia looks with the initial description or ( that he gave no such clue.

If he didn't than mafia is surely not:

brown/brown/male/dark/necklace
brown/brown/male/dark/glasses
brown/brown/male/light/necklace
brown/brown/male/light/glasses
brown/brown/female/dark/necklace
brown/brown/female/dark/glasses
brown/brown/female/light/necklace
brown/brown/female/light/necklace

There is a catch tough, I'm assuming that the two primary variations clues wise are hair and eyes.

[Kaziocore]

We might also make an assumption, that (a) Narsis gave a clue to how mafia looks with the initial description or ( that he gave no such clue.

If he didn't than mafia is surely not:

brown/brown/male/dark/necklace
brown/brown/male/dark/glasses
brown/brown/male/light/necklace
brown/brown/male/light/glasses
brown/brown/female/dark/necklace
brown/brown/female/dark/glasses
brown/brown/female/light/necklace
brown/brown/female/light/necklace

There is a catch tough, I'm assuming that the two primary variations clues wise are hair and eyes.

I don't get this

[KevinH]

a no lynch results in a random person being lynched. it is impossible to no one to be lynched.

Unvote: no-lynch

I'd rather have a decision in the lynch.

If the question leaves open the possibility that CD is scum, then he will get my vote.

[Nerau]

i believe theo is trying to limit the combinations so that we can gain the most information within a single question

[Theophilos]

Exactly that.

[CanucksDynasty]

There is a catch tough, I'm assuming that the two primary variations clues wise are hair and eyes.

How did you come to assume that the primary variations are "hair and eyes"?