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[OP-01] TOWN WIN: Dethwing Classic

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KevinH investigated Rafay and got town.

D3mon investigated Rafay and got scum.

Imran Ehsan investigated KevinH and got town.

Xx Karl xX investigated KevinH and got town.

Rafay investigated KevinH and got scum.

 

I agree with Karl's reasoning that D3mon is not scum.

 

I'm town. (Trust me!)

 

If Imran and Karl are town, then they use up the sane and naive.

The only way I could get town on Rafay is if I am insane and Rafay is scum.

D3mon would then be paranoid and everything works.

 

If Rafay is town, then I use up either a sane or naive and either Imran or Karl is scum.

D3mon and Rafay use up paranoid and and insane. Everything works.

 

I think we can solve this thing.

 

We should lynch now (see, I don't always advocate no-lynch ...)

Imran and Karl have the same history so one should be lynched.

I'll assume we lynch Imran for now, but feel free to substitute Imran for Karl in the following analysis.

 

I investigate D3mon:

if I get scum, then I am insane and Rafay is scum

if I get town, then I am either naive or sane with Rafay confirmed town

 

D3mon investigates Karl:

if he gets town, then D3mon is insane and Karl is scum

if he gets scum, then D3mon is paranoid

 

Rafay investigates Karl:

if he gets town, then Rafay is insane and Karl is scum

if he gets scum, then Rafay is paranoid

 

Karl investigates Rafay:

if he gets scum, then Karl is sane and Rafay is scum

if he gets town, then Karl is either naive or sane with Rafay confirmed town

 

Somebody is going to get night-killed and somebody is going to lie about his result,

but I think there will be enough information for the two remaining townies to make the right choice.

 

Mod: Will we be told the sanity of those who die?

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are you kidding? i was the first one to post and asked if we wanted to share our results... i didn't know if we wanted to share the results right away..then all you guys posted either late at night or early in the morning when i'm sleeping. how is that my fault that i was the last to post my result? all i know is that i am a cop and that d3mon is a cop. and now Imran is looking very scummy to me, so please don't make a mistake and vote for me. or at the very least, if you do decide to lynch me, go get Imran tomorrow and then i can say i told you so >.<

are you kidding? i was the first one to post and asked if we wanted to share our results... i didn't know if we wanted to share the results right away..then all you guys posted either late at night or early in the morning when i'm sleeping. how is that my fault that i was the last to post my result?

 

Exactly something a scum will do. It was clear from the beginning of the game that the best way to find the scum, specially as we have an insane cop amongst is, is to post night investigations and look for inconsistencies. But you want to blend in with the crowd so you wanted to see what the strategy of the town will be before making your move. Hence, your inquiry as to what path the town is going to take.

 

In any case, I will get lynched as both me and karl both have 2 votes each and I reaches the half majority first. So either d3mon has to witch his vote or Rafay has to vote for karl before deadline to get the scum before he gets a chance to make a night kill.

Exactly something a scum will do. It was clear from the beginning of the game that the best way to find the scum, specially as we have an insane cop amongst is, is to post night investigations and look for inconsistencies. But you want to blend in with the crowd so you wanted to see what the strategy of the town will be before making your move. Hence, your inquiry as to what path the town is going to take.

 

In any case, I will get lynched as both me and karl both have 2 votes each and I reaches the half majority first. So either d3mon has to witch his vote or Rafay has to vote for karl before deadline to get the scum before he gets a chance to make a night kill.

 

There are still a few days to the deadline and I am giving karl benefit of doubt because he posted a investigation result that would place him in the list of suspects. I might be wrong but since nobody has placed the hammer vote, I believe that one of you is scum.

Exactly something a scum will do. It was clear from the beginning of the game that the best way to find the scum, specially as we have an insane cop amongst is, is to post night investigations and look for inconsistencies. But you want to blend in with the crowd so you wanted to see what the strategy of the town will be before making your move. Hence, your inquiry as to what path the town is going to take.

 

In any case, I will get lynched as both me and karl both have 2 votes each and I reaches the half majority first. So either d3mon has to witch his vote or Rafay has to vote for karl before deadline to get the scum before he gets a chance to make a night kill.

 

Oh really, it's "clear from the very beginning" please tell me where it says to post your results for everyone to see. if anyone here is acting scummy it's you. all i did was post my investigation result and then try to come up with a possible reason for all the results. i never even said the scum was you. i just said IF there wasn't a scum investigated then it probably was you. now you're just accusing me on the basis of "he posted his results last! he's scum! derp derp!" no actual reason to vote for me. please, everyone else, if you have any sense you'll see that i am not the scum and the only one acting scummy here is imran...

Imran Ehsan, Xx Karl xX, and Rafay each have a 1/3 chance of being scum in my opinion.

 

(I believe Karl could easily be townie and post last.)

 

However, if we lynch Rafay and he's town then we are faced with a 50% guess between Imran and Karl.

 

If we lynch either Imran or Karl and are wrong, we could potentially be 100% sure of the remaining scum, depending on investigation results.

 

I also think there is value in seeing the discussion while two players are at L-1.

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Imran Ehsan (2): d3mon, Xx Karl xX L-1

Xx Karl xX (2): Imran Ehsan, KevinH L-1

KevinH (1): Rafay

 

Deadline: Friday, September 21 (2 days to go)

 

With 5 Alive, 3 is needed to lynch.

2 is needed to lynch on deadline.

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I still think that I ain't insane cop but a sane one and my results were correct. If we lynch KevinH and he's a town then go ahead next day lynch me freely. But I'm a townie.

 

None of us townies know if we are sane or not. Why shouldn't D3mon think that he's sane and that his results are correct?

 

We need to look forward to tomorrow's knowledge.

Suppose you lynch me and get proof I'm town. Karl and Imran are both alive with the same day 1 investigation history.

I investigate D3mon:

if I get scum, then I am insane and Rafay is scum

if I get town, then I am either naive or sane with Rafay confirmed town

 

D3mon investigates Karl:

if he gets town, then D3mon is insane and Karl is scum

if he gets scum, then D3mon is paranoid

 

Rafay investigates Karl:

if he gets town, then Rafay is insane and Karl is scum

if he gets scum, then Rafay is paranoid

 

Karl investigates Rafay:

if he gets scum, then Karl is sane and Rafay is scum

if he gets town, then Karl is either naive or sane with Rafay confirmed town

 

Feel free to substitute Imran for Karl in the following analysis.

 

Suppose I am night-killed.

If Rafay is scum, Karl will know for sure and D3mon can believe him with 50% confidence.

If Karl is scum, either D3mon or Rafay will know for sure; if D3mon knows, then Rafay will believe with 100% confidence; if Rafay knows, then D3mon can believe him with 50% confidence.

 

Suppose D3mon is night-killed.

If Rafay is scum, I will know for sure.

If Karl is scum, I will know for sure.

 

Suppose Rafay is night-killed.

Then Karl is scum.

 

Suppose Karl is night-killed.

Then Rafay is killed.

 

I am 100% sure that I will be night-killed. It's interesting that Rafay wants me lynched now. If D3mon is faced with the 50% choice, I think he should choose Rafay as most likely to be scum.

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Imran Ehsan (2): d3mon, Xx Karl xX L-1

Xx Karl xX (2): Imran Ehsan, KevinH L-1

KevinH (1): Rafay

 

Deadline: Friday, September 21 (24 hours to go)

 

With 5 Alive, 3 is needed to lynch.

2 is needed to lynch on deadline.

I still think that I ain't insane cop but a sane one and my results were correct. If we lynch KevinH and he's a town then go ahead next day lynch me freely. But I'm a townie.

 

Well there's two types of cops in the game who give wrong investigation results. There's the insane guy who always gets the opposite result and there is the paranoid guy who thinks everyone is scum. So there's 50% chance your investigation was wrong. You have no way of knowing.

 

In any case, I doubt you will get a lynch on kenvinh. The votes are split between me and karl. If your switch your vote to karl we may get the scum before he has a chance to make a night kill and spreads his nefarious lies further !

Well since no one is listening to me.

 

Vote: Imran Ehsan

Well because you want Karl lynched so badly.

 

But no matter what happens. I'm a townie and I may get NK'ed so if I do plz lynch KevinH, I know he's scum.

In any case, I doubt you will get a lynch on kenvinh. The votes are split between me and karl. If your switch your vote to karl we may get the scum before he has a chance to make a night kill and spreads his nefarious lies further !

 

I dont know why, but this line made me laugh a little. maybe it's cause i know it's a desperate attempt of the scum trying to save himself? anyways, thank you rafay for seeing the truth and not falling for Imran's scummy trap :D

11. Once a player has reached a simple majority of votes no further unvoting will change their fate.

 

12. When a player is lynched the game enters twilight until I post a death scene; all players may continue to post.

 

We'll soon know the truth about Imran.

 

Please investigate according to the plan and win this! I expect to die soon ...

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Imran Ehsan (3): d3mon, Xx Karl xX, Rafay

Xx Karl xX (2): Imran Ehsan, KevinH

 

Deadline: Friday, September 21 (24 hours to go)

 

With 5 Alive, 3 is needed to lynch.

2 is needed to lynch on deadline.

Imran Ehsan, Mafia Goon, was lynched

 

TOWNIES WIN

 

Role Assignment

 

Rafay - Insane Cop

Imran Ehsan - Mafia Goon

KevinH - Naive Cop

d3mon - Paranoid Cop

Xx Karl xX - Sane Cop

 

Night Actions

 

Night 0:

Rafay investigated KevinH (Mafia)

KevinH investigated Rafay (Town)

d3mon investigated Rafay (Mafia)

Xx Karl xX investigated KevinH (Town)

Edited by Kaziocore

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Feel free to substitute Imran for Karl in the following analysis.

 

Suppose I am night-killed.

If Rafay is scum, Karl will know for sure and D3mon can believe him with 50% confidence.

If Karl is scum, either D3mon or Rafay will know for sure; if D3mon knows, then Rafay will believe with 100% confidence; if Rafay knows, then D3mon can believe him with 50% confidence.

 

Suppose D3mon is night-killed.

If Rafay is scum, I will know for sure.

If Karl is scum, I will know for sure.

 

Suppose Rafay is night-killed.

Then Karl is scum.

 

Suppose Karl is night-killed.

Then Rafay is killed.

 

I am 100% sure that I will be night-killed. It's interesting that Rafay wants me lynched now. If D3mon is faced with the 50% choice, I think he should choose Rafay as most likely to be scum.

I really think d3mon should be night killed as he is already confirmed town.

The mafia is risking two confirmed townies the next day if d3mon is not killed.

lol..it was just bad luck that both Rafay and karl happened to investigate kevinH after i posted a fake result on him. I had no chance after that. Even if i survived the lynch on Day 1, i would have been lynched on Day 2.
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