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[Lord MK]

But people bus their partners from time to time.
You can't include lynching own alignment as a negative, if it's a strategy.


Yeah, reviews should include like maybe a line or two about the players.

[lilweirdward]

Maybe a bunch of positive points for bussing your own partner if it works (ie you win because people think you're town), and negative if it doesn't? Either way I think having set scores for different plays and outcomes that people participate in is the most neutral way to rank players. I like Rafay's idea about points per 10 posts or something since it would also implicitly reward people for staying alive longer.

[Dontavian]

Collecting all that data and publishing it would be a lot of work for someone (or group).  What about making a Mafia Mod group that is responsible, (like Factory, or Watchers etc). Would have to be in a shared section of forums, like diplomatic, so folks from our allies could participate/hold positions. 
just thinking out loud...

[brewersalliance]

question:  why does it matter/who cares?

 

we all know who the good players are and who the bad players are.  we dont need someone to spend hours of time working on stuff just to tell us something that we already all know

[Velocity]

I think it would be interesting to see the numbers, personally.

It could also contribute to a psychological effect, you can tell somebody they’re bad or not as good as person x, but it may not work. Showing numbers based on a logical system could prompt an internal mechanism in their mind to stack themselves against person/people x and try to play better to surpass them, which could lead to an increase (even if slight) in skill/activity of the forums.

That above is all conjecture though, I’m no expert. I think there are ways to tweak what you guys are talking about to better “rank” players, and I would be down to help work on it if I was able to.

[Rafay]

question:  why does it matter/who cares?   we all know who the good players are and who the bad players are.  we dont need someone to spend hours of time working on stuff just to tell us something that we already all know

 

F-U-N

 

Collecting all that data and publishing it would be a lot of work for someone (or group).  What about making a Mafia Mod group that is responsible, (like Factory, or Watchers etc). Would have to be in a shared section of forums, like diplomatic, so folks from our allies could participate/hold positions.  just thinking out loud...

 

WE could keep our own score every game. Then publish as the game ends and mod updates the table/standings. 

[lilweirdward]

I agree with Rafay (oh no), it's just fun, and also we could make it easier on ourselves and just score active and ongoing games. If someone really wanted to go back and tally up old games they could, but I ain't got time for that lol.

[Lord MK]

question: why does it matter/who cares?

we all know who the good players are and who the bad players are. we dont need someone to spend hours of time working on stuff just to tell us something that we already all know

For posterity, duh.

For example, when i say that rhizo is a good player, most of the new players have no clue.
Or how good kazio was.
Or molestargazer, the one who complied the og win thread in the first place.
I haven't interacted with mole or even kazio a lot, cause they were from a time i wasn't in iron.
So I can be ignorant as to their playing poweress.
Which is very sad.

So the purpose?
For people to remember us, after we finally quit this game, like you did.

[KevinH]

question:  why does it matter/who cares?

 

we all know who the good players are and who the bad players are.  we dont need someone to spend hours of time working on stuff just to tell us something that we already all know

 

It's interesting to consider scoring, but I lean a little bit toward pointlessness.

 

If I get busy in real life and don't post as much, should my score go down?

If I get lynched/night-killed early as a vanilla townie, but the power roles survive to play longer, should my score go up or down?

If I "solve" the game early, my score should go up, but if I can't convince my teammates, my score should go down; how do we measure?

 

I'm satisfied with the wins thread, if for nothing more than a concise summary to get nostalgic.  For instance, I just looked up the last game the Chaplain of Death won.

[Lyner]

I think we can have some pretty fun infos even with just basic stuffs like: who's the players and their factions, when each of them dies, and which faction won.

 

Win-lose ratio, average win rate over the last 10 games, survival rate, win rate when mafia/town.

 

Shouldn't be too much effort with something like google sheet.

 

 

question:  why does it matter/who cares?

 

we all know who the good players are and who the bad players are.  we dont need someone to spend hours of time working on stuff just to tell us something that we already all know

ego and pride kek

[brewersalliance]

we dont need some advanced metric to know that player a never tries and sucks and player b is a great player

 

we all know who is who lol

[Rafay]

we dont need some advanced metric to know that player a never tries and sucks and player b is a great player   we all know who is who lol

 

You need to watch moneyball and see how important numbers are!!!