I thought ferrarri basically admittez their engine underpeforms next to Mercedes

That we will have to wait and see I guess . So far it looks like the Ferrari engine uses a little more fuel than the Mercedes engine to get the same performance (hard to say for sure though). So that's definitely a little bit of under performance then, however they still can keep updating the software and get the mappings right. So hopefully there is nothing fundamentally wrong with the engine itself.

 

I do think Ferrari had a nice innovation compared to the other engines. By fortifying the turbo casing they basically nullified the need for a ballistic shield in the engine cover. Making the weight distribution of the car more efficient.

 

Other than that, looks like Renault has had some issues with the thermal part of the energy recovery system. Certainly hope they can fix it and we won't see 4 Renault based teams overheated on the side of the track in 2 weeks time

"We believe it is inherently a good car," Horner said to The Daily Telegraph. "I have every confidence in the team. There's no panic. There are engineering solutions and there is no better set of engineers in the pit lane. By the time we get to the European races in May, we should be OK."

Until then, however, points - rather than podiums and victories - may be the extent of the team's ambitions with Horner adamant that engine suppliers Renault are chiefly responsible for the car's uncompetitive state.

"Adrian [Newey] and his technical have done an excellent job. We had some cooling issues early on, but we've worked hard to address those. The main bit we need to get on top of is with our engine partner," Horner maintained.

"They [Renault] will catch up, they quite simply have to. We would hope by the time we arrive back in Europe that we're seeing significant improvements."

 

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/9207225/red-bull-boss-christian-horner-warns-mercedes-may-lap-field-in-the-australian-gp

why is that white? this posting system is retarded

it copies the background as well as the text. 

 

Interesting to see such an admission-Red Bull really are screwed then

I'm so torn. On the one hand I am sad to see that Grosjean doesn't have a car that allows him to challenge and show what he can. On the other hand I am glad that Maldonado looks like a bigger idiot than ever now.

Haha well said! I couldn't agree more.

 

Formula1.com : Pastor Maldonado did get out in his Lotus, with 10 minutes left, but had a wild ride which included smoke emanating from the cockpit and an off which narrowly avoided a wall, before he rolled back into the pit lane.

practice has ended so mercedes 1 and 2, with Ferrari(Alonso) 3rd and Mclaren(button), Vettel 5th so not a bad showing for red bull after pre testing 

Interesting. ....really Impressed by magnussen.

#yearofthebutton

#kmag

 

anyone interested in a fantasy f1 league, badger gp have one the resets after the first 2 races to let everyone learn it. I can set up an IRON league jf anyone is interested

Can you explain a little bit more about that? Might be fun.

 

But yeah interesting Qualy indeed

3 drivers, 3 cars, collect points win.

 

http://badgergp.com/game/

 

pretty good f1 community at badger

yeah im game, on qualifiying i did say watch out for Lewis, but Fernando is always a threat, i still dont think Nico has that killer instinct.   

Wow for magnussen and good show from Button as well.

All of the rookies actually impressed me a lot. If you compare that with rookies coming in about 3-4 years back there is a world of difference. These guys know what they are getting in to and what they are doing, in previous years they had to experience that on day one

What a way to bounce back from the worst season in history. Well worth the early wake up.

Controversy brewing, RIC used too much fuel

Badger fantasy gp.

 

The IRONY league, passcode 872015.

 

my team got hampered by crashes and retirement.

Next race, its on.

Ricardo disqualified...wow

if you are interested:

 

Red Bull’s Daniel Ricciardo has lost his second-place finish in Sunday's Australian Grand Prix after stewards decided his car had run with too high a fuel flow rate during the race. The team are to appeal the decision.

 

Ricciardo crossed the line behind winner Nico Rosberg to claim his maiden F1 podium. His exclusion elevates McLaren's Kevin Magnussen to P2 and team mate Jenson Button to third.

 

Under article 5.1.4 of the new 2014 technical regulations, cars are limited to a fuel flow rate of 100kg/hour, as measured by an FIA-homologated sensor on the car.

 

According to the stewards’ report, Red Bull used a different fuel sensor on Saturday after they found the one used on Friday had produced unreliable readings. However, when the sensor used on Saturday failed to provide results that were satisfactory to them or the FIA, they were instructed to change back to the original sensor within parc ferme on Saturday night.

 

Considering this sensor unreliable, Red Bull chose to rely on their own internal fuel flow model, something that the stewards say is in violation of the procedure outlined in the technical regulations.

 

Furthermore, Red Bull were warned by the FIA’s technical representative during the race that the fuel flow on Ricciardo’s car was too high. The team were given the opportunity to correct this, but according to the stewards’ report, they chose not to make any changes.

 

Announcing their intention to appeal the stewards’ decision, Red Bull said: “Inconsistencies with the FIA fuel flow meter have been prevalent all weekend up and down the pit lane. The Team and Renault are confident the fuel supplied to the engine is in full compliance with the regulations.”

 

The stewards' decision in full:

 

The Stewards, having received a report from the Technical Delegate, heard from the team representatives, have considered the following matter and determine a breach of the regulations has been committed by the competitor named below and impose the penalty referred to.

 

No/Driver: 3, Daniel Ricciardo

Competitor: Infiniti Red Bull Racing

Time: 20:17

Session: Race

Facts: Car #3 was not in compliance with article 5.1.4 of the FIA Formula 1 technical tegulations.

Offence: Breach of article 3.2 of the FIA Formula 1 sporting regulations and Article 5.1.4 of the FIA Formula 1 technical regulations.

Decision: Car #3 is excluded from the race results.

Reason:

1) The technical delegate reported to the stewards that car #3 exceeded the required fuel mass flow of 100kg/h. (article 5.1.4 of the Formula 1 technical regulations)

 

2) This parameter is outside of the control of the driver, Daniel Ricciardo.

 

3) The fuel flow is measured using the fuel flow sensor (Art. 5.10.3 & 5.10.4 of the technical regulations) which is homologated by the FIA and owned and operated by the team.

 

4) The stewards considered the history of the fitted fuel flow sensor, as described by the team and the technical delegate's representative who administers the programme. Their description of the history of the sensor matches.

 

a. During practice one a difference in reading between the first three and run four was detected. The same readings as Run 4 were observed throughout practice two.

 

b. The team used a different sensor on Saturday but did not get readings that were satisfactory to them or the FIA, so they were instructed to change the sensor within parc ferme on Saturday night.

 

c. They operated the original sensor during the race, which provided the same readings as run four of practice one, and practice two.

 

5) The stewards heard from the technical representative that when the sensor was installed on Saturday night, he instructed the team to apply an offset to their fuel flow such that the fuel flow would have been legal. He presented an email to the stewards that verified his instruction.

 

6) The technical representative stated to the stewards that there is variation in the sensors. However, the sensors fall within a known range, and are individually calibrated. They then become the standard which the teams must use for their fuel flow.

 

7) The team stated that based on the difference observed between the two readings in P1, they considered the fuel flow sensor to be unreliable. Therefore, for the start of the race they chose to use their internal fuel flow model, rather than the values provided by the sensor, with the required offset.

 

8) Technical directive 01614 (1 March 2014) provides the methodology by which the sensor will be used, and, should the sensor fail, the method by which the alternate model could be used.

 

a. The technical directive starts by stating: "The homologated fuel flow sensor will be the primary measurement of the fuel flow and will be used to check compliance with articles 5.1.4 and 5.1.5 of the F1 technical regulations..." This is in conformity with articles 5.10.3 and 5.10.4 of the technical regulations.

 

b. The technical directive goes on to state: "If at any time WE consider that the sensor has an issue which has not been detected by the system WE will communicate this to the team concerned and switch to a back-up system."

(emphasis added.)

 

c. The back-up system is the calculated fuel flow model with a correction factor decided by the FIA.

 

9) The FIA technical representative observed thought the telemetry during the race that the fuel flow was too high and contacted the team, giving them the opportunity to follow his previous instruction, and reduce the fuel flow such that it was within the limit, as measured by the homologated sensor - and thus gave the team the opportunity to be within compliance. The team chose not to make this correction.

 

10) Under Art. 3.2 of the sporting regulations it is the duty of the team to ensure compliance with the technical regulations throughout the event.

 

Thus the stewards find that:

 

A) The team chose to run the car using their fuel flow model, without direction from the FIA. This is a violation of the procedure within TD/01614.

 

That although the sensor showed a difference in readings between runs in P1, it remains the homologated and required sensor against which the team is obliged to measure their fuel flow, unless given permission by the FIA to do otherwise.

 

C) The stewards were satisfied by the explanation of the technical representative that by making an adjustment as instructed, the team could have run within the allowable fuel flow.

 

D) That regardless of the team's assertion that the sensor was fault, it is not within their discretion to run a different fuel flow measurement method without the permission of the FIA.

 

The stewards find that car #3 was out of compliance with the technical regulations and is therefore excluded from the results of the race.

how can i see your team curu?

Interesting...so it seems the FIA rules don't allow you to ignore a sensor you are convinced is broken

Dodo, should be able to look for community or friends leagues or something

yeah i found you in friends league, but i couldn't figure out how to see anything from there, was curious what you had scored in order to get 76 points

Ricc and RBR have launched a appeal, lets see if they get it overturned, i bet Ferrari would have got it overturned lol