I found LE's comment politically neutral, if there's such a thing. 

I found LE's comment politically neutral, if there's such a thing. 

Sure it was... poor Obama and his uphill battles. The only uphill battle Obama has is which wedge will get him up on the green.

Lys: You clearly don't remember 1994.

Ok Lys, I'm going to ask you the same question I've asked on Facebook and have yet to receive any kind of real answer:

 

I want to know how the Republicans are going to be SO much better than what's in place now. Be specific. Campaign rhetoric isn't allowed.

I clearly do. Republican takeover of the House and Senate in reaction to the utter failure of Hillarycare.

The 90's were not subject to the elevation of Bill Clinton to god statis... he won the Presidency with only 43% of the vote in '92.

 

The Supreme Court will hear the case on the illegal subsidies in the ACA. Obamacare will soon be dead on the vine. About time.

Ok Lys, I'm going to ask you the same question I've asked on Facebook and have yet to receive any kind of real answer:

 

I want to know how the Republicans are going to be SO much better than what's in place now. Be specific. Campaign rhetoric isn't allowed.

You are asking me what I would do if I were in charge. I am not, and I am not one that is in the mood for compromise since the absolute disreguard for any input on what was done during the '09-'10 Congress... but I will give you a few opinions.

 

Drop the corporate tax rate immediately... there is 2 trillion dollars being held offshore that needs to be repatriated here... they won't bring the money in until it will not be stolen by a hostile government.

 

Abolish the IRS... it has become a weapon for whoever is in charge against the opposition party. I don't want this to happen to anyone ever again. Eliminate the income tax and implement the Fair-Tax. Money should be taxed when it's spent... not when it's earned. Taxes will be paid every day by just buying stuff rather than before April 15th. No deductions or loopholes. Even prostitutes and drug dealers will have to pay. Everyone pays their fair share and don't give me that crap about the rich not paying their fair share... rich people buy much more stuff. Investments would skyrocket and everyone wins.

 

Repeal the Federal laws that criminalize marajuana. This way the states can deal with this as they see fit and they are not openly breaking the law as they are dealing with it. It's happening already and they won't stop it, so open the door and let it play out. I don't smoke that shit myself but I know many that do... and none of them are criminals.

 

Remove marriage from the law. Some idiots back in the day made a huge mistake by tying marriage to the law. It has just become a big war against the church. Everyone should file civil union papers with their state. Done deal.

 

Social Security is a scam. Give the money back to the people in a private retirement account that is there when they retire or when they reach the age of 65-70. If they pass away the account transfers to their beneficiary. States can actually compeat for residency with who has the most attractive retirement plans. I ask you... what would be better? Your own account full of cash from compounded interest over decades amounting to millions? or a few hundred dollars a month until you die? The government has been ripping you off all your life.

 

Some idiot named Jimmy Carter decided education needed it's own Federal agency. Since then we have millions of dumber children and millions of lousey teachers after spending hundreds of billions of dollars more than before when we had smarter kids. This has not worked and should be reverted back to the states.

 

None the less, you guys get the drift... I'm a small government conservative.

You are asking me what I would do if I were in charge. I am not, and I am not one that is in the mood for compromise since the absolute disreguard for any input on what was done during the '09-'10 Congress... but I will give you a few opinions.

Sure, just like Bush did in 2006, and like Newt did in 1994....but I digress.

 

Drop the corporate tax rate immediately... there is 2 trillion dollars being held offshore that needs to be repatriated here... they won't bring the money in until it will not be stolen by a hostile government.

Good luck with that. Corporations all ready don't pay their fair share, making them pay less in taxes won't change anything.

 

Abolish the IRS... it has become a weapon for whoever is in charge against the opposition party. I don't want this to happen to anyone ever again. Eliminate the income tax and implement the Fair-Tax. Money should be taxed when it's spent... not when it's earned. Taxes will be paid every day by just buying stuff rather than before April 15th. No deductions or loopholes. Even prostitutes and drug dealers will have to pay. Everyone pays their fair share and don't give me that crap about the rich not paying their fair share... rich people buy much more stuff. Investments would skyrocket and everyone wins.

Ok, I could support this - a 18 or 20% VAT instead of income tax could work, plus I despise the IRS as well. However, I suspect people would balk, especially those who say that it would affect lower income more than upper income. I say no, it means everyone pays.

 

Repeal the Federal laws that criminalize marajuana. This way the states can deal with this as they see fit and they are not openly breaking the law as they are dealing with it. It's happening already and they won't stop it, so open the door and let it play out. I don't smoke that shit myself but I know many that do... and none of them are criminals.

Tax it like they do booze and cigarettes and you have a steady revenue stream. I like it.

 

Remove marriage from the law. Some idiots back in the day made a huge mistake by tying marriage to the law. It has just become a big war against the church. Everyone should file civil union papers with their state. Done deal.

I've been saying this for years. Marriage is a church sacrament. Why the government is in the marriage business is beyond me.

 

Social Security is a scam. Give the money back to the people in a private retirement account that is there when they retire or when they reach the age of 65-70. If they pass away the account transfers to their beneficiary. States can actually compeat for residency with who has the most attractive retirement plans. I ask you... what would be better? Your own account full of cash from compounded interest over decades amounting to millions? or a few hundred dollars a month until you die? The government has been ripping you off all your life.

It'll never happen. If the SS Fund was properly funded instead of raided we wouldn't have this problem.

 

Some idiot named Jimmy Carter decided education needed it's own Federal agency. Since then we have millions of dumber children and millions of lousey teachers after spending hundreds of billions of dollars more than before when we had smarter kids. This has not worked and should be reverted back to the states.

Since it spawned Common Core I agree. However, there does need to be a national standard. That said, common core isn't it.

 

None the less, you guys get the drift... I'm a small government conservative.

 

Thank you for at least being honest and not spouting party lines. Unfortunately, none of that will happen with the current Congress.

 

I saw a meme on facebook today - if Congress has 10% support, then why was 90% of it re-elected? Best one I've seen yet.

 

 

 Harry Reid is somewhat of a hypocrite.  He should let one of those bills with ACA repealed come to the floor.  If the Senators like they will vote for it and it will pass, if not then it will not pass.  The constitutional exercise of rejecting/passing laws will be carried to its logical conclusion. However, I am disappinted in John Boehner.  The same thing should happen in the House of Representatives, the immigration bill should be bought to a vote.  If the bill passes or gets rejected, it will be because the constitutional exercise will be carried out.  The founding fathers did not imagine a bill not being put up to vote.  

 

So the advantage to not bringing up a bill cannot be overestimated. For the Republicans for example, with a crucial midterm, of course they won't bring up a bill that will loose them the Hispanic vote. Even if a Republican immigration bill passed the house, a Democratic Senate and President would shut that down quickly. Could you imagine the press in 2 years when these guys run for re-election? You'd get "[insert Name] HATES Hispanics!" Same with voting against the ACA, despite its flaws.

 

Also, I don't think its fair for anyone to say what the founders did or didn't want, as they're dead.

 

 

 

 

Ok Lys, I'm going to ask you the same question I've asked on Facebook and have yet to receive any kind of real answer:

 

I want to know how the Republicans are going to be SO much better than what's in place now. Be specific. Campaign rhetoric isn't allowed.

They will put pressure on Obama to sign or veto bills that will make the Democratic party weak going into a presidential election with an open seat. That's what they'll do.

 

 

Ok Lys, I'm going to ask you the same question I've asked on Facebook and have yet to receive any kind of real answer:

 

I want to know how the Republicans are going to be SO much better than what's in place now. Be specific. Campaign rhetoric isn't allowed.

You are asking me what I would do if I were in charge. I am not, and I am not one that is in the mood for compromise since the absolute disreguard for any input on what was done during the '09-'10 Congress... but I will give you a few opinions.

 

Drop the corporate tax rate immediately... there is 2 trillion dollars being held offshore that needs to be repatriated here... they won't bring the money in until it will not be stolen by a hostile government.

 

Abolish the IRS... it has become a weapon for whoever is in charge against the opposition party. I don't want this to happen to anyone ever again. Eliminate the income tax and implement the Fair-Tax. Money should be taxed when it's spent... not when it's earned. Taxes will be paid every day by just buying stuff rather than before April 15th. No deductions or loopholes. Even prostitutes and drug dealers will have to pay. Everyone pays their fair share and don't give me that crap about the rich not paying their fair share... rich people buy much more stuff. Investments would skyrocket and everyone wins.

 

Repeal the Federal laws that criminalize marajuana. This way the states can deal with this as they see fit and they are not openly breaking the law as they are dealing with it. It's happening already and they won't stop it, so open the door and let it play out. I don't smoke that shit myself but I know many that do... and none of them are criminals.

 

Remove marriage from the law. Some idiots back in the day made a huge mistake by tying marriage to the law. It has just become a big war against the church. Everyone should file civil union papers with their state. Done deal.

 

Social Security is a scam. Give the money back to the people in a private retirement account that is there when they retire or when they reach the age of 65-70. If they pass away the account transfers to their beneficiary. States can actually compeat for residency with who has the most attractive retirement plans. I ask you... what would be better? Your own account full of cash from compounded interest over decades amounting to millions? or a few hundred dollars a month until you die? The government has been ripping you off all your life.

 

Some idiot named Jimmy Carter decided education needed it's own Federal agency. Since then we have millions of dumber children and millions of lousey teachers after spending hundreds of billions of dollars more than before when we had smarter kids. This has not worked and should be reverted back to the states.

 

None the less, you guys get the drift... I'm a small government conservative.

 

 

So my opinion on whether these will be changed or not. Now I'm not saying I agree or disagree, but I made green the options I think this Congress will change, and red the ones that will not change.

 

Corporate Tax: I made it green, but I doubt it will be entirely true. I would expect it to drop, but dropping it? These guys are running for re-election in 2 years, and I doubt that's what your average middle class American wants

 

Abolish IRS: Perhaps reform? Changes need to be made, but our tax collecting enemy will likely be around for a good bit longer

 

Marijuana: A Republican Congress? Really? Perhaps a Libertarian who believe small government (like yourself). But Republicans will keep this, yet not attempt to force the states to make it illegal, as that would be unpopular. The last time Republicans controlled the house it didn't last long, so they may want to take it easier this time around.

 

Marriage: Again, God-fearing Americans repealing marriage? This will pave the way for a legalized Gay Marriage, and I doubt the Republican elites (who happen to fund campaigns) will support this

 

Social Security: Although it may not be killed this congress, the leviathan will be on its way out soon my friend. 

 

That's what I'd be expecting

Drinking some beer to celebrate my 4 day weekend! Woohoo! Taking my Monday off from dreadful office.

 

 

 

 

It is easily foreseeable that the U.S. is not going to be able to get anything constructive done until the next election... It seems like Republicans are going to control the Congress and Obama will be left to fight uphill battles against them. Not good at all for the people.

omg... Do you really wish to go there LE?

 

So to get anything "constructive" done, it has to be Democrats that do it?

Republicans are not people?

Who has been fighting uphill battles?

 

There are over 360 bills from the House of Representatives sitting on Hary Reid's desk that he refuses to bring to the floor.

This will change in January... and the true obstructionist will be exposed.

 

I think you are an amazing leader, but this post really offended me Sir.

I have spent the last 8 years of my life to bring down the most corrupt politician in DC... Harry Reid. Tonight I drink champaign.

 

 

 

Lysistrata...I agree to a lot of your views, but you really should tone it back some.  You come off quite aggressive, and your views are not the only ones that are allowed to be said.  You can debate/discuss a point without being so in your face because an individual has a different opinion then you.  I enjoy a good discussion from different views, but I can't stand when someone makes someone feel like their thoughts/opinion/views mean nothing because they're different then theirs.  These are why I hate to see topics like these even started, because it always becomes hostile instead of debating, instead of at the end of the day, we're all entitled to our own views and beliefs so leave it at that.  The mere fact you got "offended" over a post that you took different from your views and instantly went on the attack is why I dread seeing such topics, as it just ends up bad and people pissed off.

 

And tbh...I don't get why you got so offended.  LE's post is making a very realistic point.  You're making assumptions to what LE meant by his post, and no where did I read LE say that Republicans are not people, nor that Democrats can only do things "constructive."  The point made is probably a likely scenario.  You have Republicans going to push bills that favor Republican views/ideals and likely not look to work with Democrats because they have majority in both House and Senate, and you have a Democratic President who will likely not like the bills, and thus fight for his parties view.  You come off as if roles were reversed, a Republican President would not do the same, and the truth is, they would.  It's going to be a big tug of war match which will likely end up stalling most of everything, and it's not one side's fault or the other, it's both of their faults because neither want to actually work together to come up with a decent proposal that both sides can support, and that actually would help America.  The Republicans wont care about Democrats thoughts or views because they have majority in congress so they don't need to, and you got a President who is the last line of Defense for Democrats to not just let Republicans pass what they want.  So LE's point is likely spot on, nothing constructive is going to happen because both sides are going to have zero interest in the other's opinions, Republicans in Congress because they can now get what they want passed without Democrats, and a Democratic President who doesn't care what Republicans think, because he's the President and he has power that Republicans don't have in the oval office.  To go along at what you wanted to point out at LE, where you took his response that you think he meant only Democrats can be constructive...not only Republicans can be constructive to.

 

At the end of the day, I really think you took that post way to personal and I believe you took it in a lot different way then it was meant.  Though I can't speak for LE, I see nothing in that response that hinted at what you assumed LE meant, and a diss only to Republicans.  I think that comment was directed at both parties, that are not going to work with each other, and thus nothing constructive will get done because neither side is going to budge.  And even if it was, LE stated his opinion, just as you have, you should respect someone's right to their opinion, even if yours might be different

 

 

And finally....

 

I ask everyone to be respectful to everyone here.  Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and if you do not like it, and want to debate it, then do it in a respectful manner.  Present facts, present your thoughts on why you think differently if you do, but do not attack someone.  I like these topics because I think they're nice to see people's different views even if they differ from mine...but I will not let people get belittled or bullied, or this topic will be closed.  Topics on politics, religion, etc on forums like these turn usually turn out bad...so I hope it doesn't become that way.

 

 

Haha. I didn't know my one setence created some heat. Rhizo, you pretty much covered what I intended to deliver. I appreciate it.

 

 

Well okay... I have so many guns drawn at me right now, and I really hate writing long posts so I'll just wing it.

 

Rhizo Sir, I've been a creature of politics for a very long time and I know liberal speak when I hear it. It's the same snotty attitude from "progressive" University Professors that indoctrinate our children from their lofty, tax-payer funded, tenured, bastions of "I know better about the world and how you must live your life". They ingnore fly over country, and discount the worth of anyone with a southern accent as... some kind of intellectual defect. They call conservatives racist, flat earthers, and knuckle-draggers. So really my reply to LE was very kind, and would have come from a much darker part of me if I did not respect him so much.

 

We do hate socialists. We do hate communists. We also hate a monarchy. My English cousins in the UK know this first hand.

We're not embarrassed about it... and "general" does not mean "absolute".

 

I have never in all my life seen my country as divided as it is now. This is the product of Socialists in control of Congress and the Presidency for just two years. Can you imagine what it would be like if Republicans failed to take control of the House in 2010?

 

Lysistrata, I respect you and I also respect your devotion and love for the country and its politics. I think I just want to point out that there are people with different views and beliefs out there and you should at least respect them with similar tones. I think this is what makes the United States as a great nation. Not Republican party, not Democratic party or any other political party or its hardcore standards (not all politicians truly believe them, they seem to just abide by it). People abiding by each other's belief and respecting it, evolving it, and so on, is what makes this country great. Even our Constitution and laws protect us with something similar. Of course, our government hasn't been able to do that for a long time... i.e. each party trying to satisfy only their own, and so on... Anywhow, some voters spoke of their mind at this recent election. It truly is up to the voters to speak up and let the government know what they really want. Of course, the voters will have to continue to educate themselves... I think it is soemwhat happening and it probably will happen again in 2016. Okay... I might sound naive in the political spectrum of things, but this is how I see it. I am not offering resolutions, and moreover, I probably won't be able to anyway.

 

Now, I am not just talking about you and I here. I am grateful for the fact that you calmed your tone with me. I am sure no one would actually want to see your "much darker side." In my defense, my post didn't mean to offend anybody and it shouldn't have, unless someone made a judgmental call. I was just stating many facts/views condensed into two simple sentences. I don't get into politics much, much the less with online. May be I shouldn't have posted anything at all. But I usually come to the forum with some ease in my mind. Just to bluntly, but gently, share things I had in mind at that point. I certainly don't wish to turn our beloved forum into a series of court trials. I do enough of that during the day...

 

My apology, if I came offensive to your belief. Nonetheless, it is my view of the current status. I hope you will respect that. I don't know you in person, but I really do like what you have portrayed and reprensted amongst us. I will continue to do that. I only wrote this not as a defense, but as a courtesy to you and others. Frankly, I didn't have to reply and perhaps I shouldn't have. But as I respect you and the others, I figured I should write something here.

 

 

I found LE's comment politically neutral, if there's such a thing. 

Sure it was... poor Obama and his uphill battles. The only uphill battle Obama has is which wedge will get him up on the green.

 

 

If it was George Bush and everything vice versa, then I still would have said the same thing. I don't take serious interest in politics, but I do act and do things as a citizen should. Just different scope of views on things. No clear right or wrong in most political issues, imo.

 

 

 

 

Anyway, thanks to Rhizo, Deputy A, and TK.

 

Lastly, I know we are in a political thread, but I would like all of us to behave like gentlemen. I think we mostly have anyway.

 

o/ IRON! o/ Weekend!

LE... thank you Sir. I was afraid you just resorted to having friends protect you. I'm very happy that was not the case.

+1 respect for LordEmperor

LE... thank you Sir. I was afraid you just resorted to having friends protect you. I'm very happy that was not the case.

+1 respect for LordEmperor

 

Nah. It's not in my nature to hide. I rather try hard first and get beaten than to hide. I just don't check non-Milcom threads too often.

 

Thanks for understanding.

 

Have a good weekend!

 

Ok Lys, I'm going to ask you the same question I've asked on Facebook and have yet to receive any kind of real answer:

 

I want to know how the Republicans are going to be SO much better than what's in place now. Be specific. Campaign rhetoric isn't allowed.

 

Repeal the Federal laws that criminalize marajuana. This way the states can deal with this as they see fit and they are not openly breaking the law as they are dealing with it. It's happening already and they won't stop it, so open the door and let it play out. I don't smoke that shit myself but I know many that do... and none of them are criminals.

 

Remove marriage from the law. Some idiots back in the day made a huge mistake by tying marriage to the law. It has just become a big war against the church. Everyone should file civil union papers with their state. Done deal.

 

 

On the first of these two points, I'm curious as to why you think conservatives and/or Republicans have not taken the legalization position (or at least not in any particularly meaningful way) at any level of government.  Sen. Rand Paul's statements in favor of decriminalization being a notable, if someone lonely, exception for members of his party.

Obviously, marijuana criminalization is not a small-government conservative position, since it requires additional state resources to (attempt to) enforce and persecute, and probably in an appreciable way adds to welfare costs by making it more difficult for people to get good jobs due to a prior conviction for something that really ought not to be a crime.

 

N.B.: At least this write-up had Republican voters at 61-37 in opposition to marijuana legalization in their state: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the-divide-between-republican-and-democratic-voters-on-major-issues/

 

 

Regarding the second, isn't the situation you are describing as ideal what we have in place?  Presently there exist two separate associative arrangements, civil marriage and religious marriage, which are identical to "civil union" and "holy matrimony" in terms of their properties.  Each can only be formed or dissolved by permission of one type of organization, and each is only recognized as conferring rights/responsibilities by one type of organization, governments and religious institutions respectively.  Do you see this issue as one of disambiguation of labels because common discourse in the US doesn't sufficiently distinguish the two types of associations?

Thank you Niels for your very thoughtful analysis of this discussion.

I am an avid Nate Silver reader as well... he may be a leftie but he's a brilliant an honest leftie.

 

The fundamental differences between Republicans and Democrats are simple. Republicans for the most part are traditionalists at their core. Democrats have this need to change things, and more often than not these days they try to force these changes that are not just about moving from horses to cars. They are changes that attack their very lives... how they raise and teach their children, what job they work, what their preacher can talk about, what they can use to defend themselves, what they eat, how much of their money can they keep, what they have to buy with that money, what they can't buy with that money... I can go on and on... and it's nothing that has anyting to do with our Constitutional rights to live in freedom.

 

Every time Democrats do something to make Republicans live the way they dictate... it's a step closer to destruction.

It's really to a breaking point and we have to do some small, really pointless things to get most of the good and well meaning Democrats to see that the Socialists are trying to take their freedom. If you allow the government to control your life, you will no longer be living.

 

The marijuana issue can easily be taken care of. The way things are now, it's headed for a crash. There are Federal laws on the books that criminalize marijuana in many ways. There are states that are passing laws to allow use and sale, and the Federal laws are not being enforced. All you need is an Attorney General that decides to enforce the law... and they all get shut down and most can go to the Federal Penn. Republicans are big "states rights" people... and repealing a Federal law is right up their alley. Let the states decide what they want to do, and it will sell with Republicans. Their are many that still believe marijuana is a dangerous, gateway drug. They don't understand that when someone gets baked the last thing they want to do is drive around and beat people up.

 

I didn't marry my wife for the legal benefits of being married... so why is the legal parts of marriage causing so much grief?

If you make laws forcing churches to marry gays, the churches will stop marrying anyone. Is that what Democrats really want?

Churches should be able to continue marrying anyone they want... and if you want the law to recognize a relationship, you file union papers with the state. People can go have all the rituals they want and the law has nothing to do with it. Everyone's happy.

 

If we as Republicans, can do some stupid little things like this... maybe the Socialists can't make us look like assholes.

 

The fundamental differences between Republicans and Democrats are simple. Republicans for the most part are traditionalists at their core. Democrats have this need to change things, and more often than not these days they try to force these changes that are not just about moving from horses to cars. They are changes that attack their very lives... how they raise and teach their children, what job they work, what their preacher can talk about, what they can use to defend themselves, what they eat, how much of their money can they keep, what they have to buy with that money, what they can't buy with that money... I can go on and on... and it's nothing that has anyting to do with our Constitutional rights to live in freedom.

 

 

Some of this is undoubtedly true, but it is not really restricted to one political party.  That Republicans are traditionalists at their core can get in the way of promoting general freedom.  For example, we can use your analysis that in general Republicans have this wrong and out-dated notion on marijuana, which has impeded federal or state efforts and decriminalization or legalization.  This touches on what people can eat/consume, what people can buy with their money, and for some who might seek employment in a legalized marijuana industry, what job they can work.  Similarly, the socially conservative blue laws in place in many states interfere with what jobs people can work and how they spend their money - from not being able to buy alcohol in half of Mississippi to preventing used car dealerships from opening on Sundays in Texas.

Certainly, these can be understood in terms of Republicans being a pro-states' rights party, but they do not maximize freedom and limit government action.  I'm personally not swayed by the 10th amendment suggestion that certain types of tyranny can be okay as long as perpetuated by a state government, and I'd wish the Republican Party wouldn't be either.

 

Then there is of course the PATRIOT Act and the Dept. of Homeland Security - truly a massive and bipartisan mess from the perspective of civil liberties.  I'm waiting for some small-government Republicans or ACLU-influenced Democrats to come and stop this, but I won't hold my breath, since in 2011, the GOP-run House and Dem-run Senate happily agreed to extend the government's powers, the latter by a unanimous consent voice vote.

The Patriot Act has some issues. I don't believe that the Federal Government has any business in many places that it has firmly set up house... but one job they do have is keeping us safe. This is a huge responsibility in today's world, and enforcing that law breaks other laws, and that's the rub. Whenever there is a required time to suspend enforcing a law for the common good and security of the country, it should have an absolute end date. If you want it back... start over and do it again.

 

I live in Nevada and it's the opposite. New car dealerships cannot open on Sundays. It's local law to give the used car dealerships a chance... I guess they had a hard time compeating. Like I said it's a local law and I have no problem with it. If you don't like it you can move.

 

I feel that way about everything. Federal minimum wage laws are rediculous and it's only a Democrat talking point to touch on the human condition called "greed". Living conditions in Montana are much different than California. They all have their own laws and they know their situation much better than Nancy Pelosi does in San Francisco... or Washington DC. This is a rich idea... how about creating an atmosphere to bring the cost of living down? Much better than getting on the treadmill we've been on with wages trying to pay for the ever higher costs that government itself forces ever higher. It's insanity.

 

That pesky Constitution. Democrats have been trying to get around, or dissolve it, for decades. It gets in their way of "progress". Gets in their way so much that they fear it. You see, they want to force their ideals on everyone... and they can't do that with the 10th and 2nd amendments standing in their way. So every time a crazy guy shoots up a school or a theatre... we have to take away those guns. They have to take away those guns because if they ever make ground on their quest to destroy the Constitution... that 10th amendment kicks in and that 2nd amendment blows their head off. That's why the founding fathers gave us the Constitution.

 

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." - Thomas Jefferson

LE... thank you Sir. I was afraid you just resorted to having friends protect you. I'm very happy that was not the case.

+1 respect for LordEmperor

 

 

FYI...Had things been vise versa, I would of said the same thing if LE said it, you said it, or any member, hell even if it was Samus .

I loled when you said even if it was Master Samus.

oi, I "helped" LE first, and I don't consider him friends with me >_>

 

I want recognition!

 

*screams*

 

WHAAAAAAA

Yeah I concede... this guy up here that has no friends drew first blood.

oi, I "helped" LE first, and I don't consider him friends with me >_>

 

I want recognition!

 

*screams*

 

WHAAAAAAA

 

Betsy!!! I wouldn't desert you! xD

 

Frankly, I didn't read the pages in between. :3 Sorry about that! <3

 

Thanks!!!

Yeah I concede... this guy up here that has no friends drew first blood.

 

wait, I had my backstabbing dagger out? weird

 

Yeah I concede... this guy up here that has no friends drew first blood.

 

wait, I had my backstabbing dagger out? weird

 

 

LE... thank you Sir. I was afraid you just resorted to having friends protect you. I'm very happy that was not the case.

+1 respect for LordEmperor

 

 

FYI...Had things been vise versa, I would of said the same thing if LE said it, you said it, or any member, hell even if it was Samus .

 

boi how dare you

NSA mass eavesdropping isn't on the agenda? What happened to personal liberties?

The Republicans have made it very clear that they don't want to do anything while Obama is in office. No laws are getting passed, congress is barely in session. Nothing is going to be happening until the republican party can shed the Tea Party's grip or a Republican is in the White House, which I don't see happening anytime in the near future due to the ultra-right pandering during primary season (looking at you Mitt)

 

Hi Lysistrata. you should visit me in the TOP embassy sometime

I'm sorry but that is a mistaken position. The GOP cant do anything while obama's in office as they do not posses the required 'Super'

Majority to pass bills in the senate nor the house therefore they can be filibustered. They also cant overturn a veto even if they do get past the floor. But the question you have to ask your self is if the GOP's position on the law requires we do anything important at all other than shrink the government and insitigate a flat tax rate. The system of checks and balances where created to insure nothing ever got done not the other way around. If it was nesscecary it was bipartisan. So I give congress a pat on the back for fulfilling there purpose. To do nothing important.