Vote Count:

• Rafay, Radagast the Brown (3): ABigDeer, Electric Mango, Preston
• D3mon, Thranduil (3): Lyner, Robert2424, Imran Ehsan,
• Lyner, Gandalf the Grey (2): D3mon, Kaziocore
• Electric Mango, Dain II Ironfoot (1): Rafay
• Preston, Bain (0):
• ABigDeer, Bard the Bowman (0):
• Robert2424, Beorn (0):
• Imran Ehsan, Thorin Oakenshield (0)
• Nick The Great, Girion (0)
• Kaziocore, Legolas Greenleaf (0)
• TBRaiders, Gwaihir the Windlord (0)

• No-Lynch (0):
• Not Voting (2): Nick The Great, TBRaiders

Deadline is 1200 EST, Sunday, January 25.

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
 

@rafay, when you have a cop claim, you lynch whoever he gets a guilty verdict on. Just what you do, even if you feel that person was town. Cop is a powerful role, and I wish I'd get it more. There really isn't much to discuss, d3mon is scum. Tough we've pretty much gotten a full day also. I doubt the EM lynch could of gotten anywhere. When you find scum, you grind till you get rid of them. lynching D3mon is for the best right now. The only other discussion we can have is who is D3mon partner. My guess? Probably preston. But thats just me. 

With so many town investigative abilities, are you surprised that there is a miller in the mix? If I am counting it right, so far, we have seen 1 role cop, 1 cop and at least 2 trackers..

Yes, I am a miller and I wouldn't hold it against anyone if they decided to lynch me.

Anyhow, here is my take on Lyner's claim.

 

Do I trust the claim? Yes

Does this mean he is town? Very likely but I am a little concerned about the balance of the game with all the investigative abilities. Its possible that he is scum who investigated me last night and has just hit the jackpot. if this is true, I would love to read the reactions in the scum thread after the game is over.

Is it a good idea to lynch me? Imran can investigate and clear me.. but guess that might be difficult as he was roleblocked last night and he might be again.

Would my being miller confirm Lyner is town? No

 

All that said, I trust Lyner enough to not vote for him and of all the games I have played so far, I feel Rafay has acted least scummy in this one. So..

 

Unvote

Fair enough Lyner. If d3mon however does turnout being innocent there will be some explaining to do, namely those who put their votes on him. Though this could be a last ditch effort to save Rafay which people have been waiting for, unfortunately d3mon didn't deny Lyner's claim so the probability of that just decreased by a fair amount.

 

Unvote

 

Vote: d3mon

 

 

Vote: d3mon

 

Good role claim dude.

I am going to have to start back from the beginning of this day and read every post again.  For now, my plan will be to vote for D3mon as the deadline nears, but I really need to read everything again tomorrow and post some thoughts before this day ends.

Ugh, being up late to hit CN targets at update has done a number on my availability the past two days - and it looks like a LOT has happened in my absence. Let's see... Wow. There are way too many posts of note, so if I quote them all my post will be ungodly long. I'm going to snip out the quotes and instead respond to the content below. A LOT has happened indeed.

 

Now THIS is interesting - Lyner has posted a roleclaim late in the day that has effectively derailed the entire conversation. My first reaction is to be skeptical of such a claim - the odds of Lyner finding scum on night 1 seem low, and d3mon didn't stand out to me as scummy on Day 1. However d3mon has also been very quiet today... and frankly the fact that d3mon then immediately claimed Miller does NOT really count in his favor. It's on the list that Kevin says can be in the game, but I'm not sure I trust that - it's a little too convenient for him to have the ONE false-positive role when everyone else's ability seems to be active. AND he tries to hedge his claim by saying Lyner could be scum that hit the jackpot? That's a bit of a stretch.

 

So as loath as I am to switch my vote from Rafay - At this point we are all but forced to test Lyner's claim by lynching d3mon. The alternative would be to use Imran's role tonight to test d3mon's miller status... but the way he claimed does NOT make me think that it is credible. The fact that Imran shifted his vote is another point in favor here; I'll trust that if nothing else.

 

Unvote

Vote: d3mon

 

This will not preclude Rafay from being scum if Lyner proves correct about d3mon; for better or worse, Lyner's cop claim has superseded everything else. If Rafay is scum, this will give them one more night to use whatever role Rafay has - regardless of how this lynch turns out. However we have another point to add into the mix there as well: Kaz's claim that he investigated Rafay too.

 

At this point we know nearly everyone's role... that's somewhat disturbing for Day 2. Even with Kevin's statement that we're free to share what we know, there are only four of us left who have not referenced our role in some way during the day. Robert keeps fearing a mass claim will buff the scum despite Kevin saying otherwise - but with this many claims out in the open he may not be too far from the truth.

 

I'm also VERY curious about Robert's strong push against me prior to Lyner's claim. Earlier he started by saying he didn't believe my JOAT claim and that he thinks I'm a role cop - despite the fact I found a role cop in Imran. Then he says JOAT roles are frequently scum (role madness of this game aside). Then he asked Rafay - at the time the leading scum suspect - why he suspected EM and not me? Pretty solidly trying to turn votes in my direction. What really caught my eye though is something Robert said - that without claiming, his role makes him think I am lying somehow. If we trust ABD's watcher claim that started the roleclaim chain today, the only one who targeted me last night was Rafay. Therefore Robert did not *use* a role on me to gain information in any form. So I am quite curious what role Robert could possibly have that would make him so utterly convinced I am scum, just based on his simply HAVING the role - I really cannot think of anything that would fit that description. And if Robert is using it as the basis for his attacks on me, that suddenly makes Robert very suspicious in my eyes.

 

... and as I'm about to hit 'post' I see more replies added to the thread; tt looks like EM has jumped on the d3mon wagon too. Interesting. However it doesn't change the fact that voting for d3mon seems to be the only viable option now. Let's see if Lyner managed to find us a real scum on Night 1.

 

-Preston

And I just realized I should not have been multitasking checking on CN with writing this thread; I think I just posted the sixth vote on d3mon. Ironically this makes me look like an idiot for not re-counting votes after I saw EM post; I'd counted and saw I would be the fifth vote when I started writing, and commented on seeing EM's vote, but didn't realize that meant my vote would now be the last. Puts Lyner's Day 1 L-1 vote into perspective I guess. Now I REALLY hope his cop claim is correct, otherwise I will have put the hammer on a townie.

Cross your fingers folks.

-Preston

... and now back to taking the fight to TOP   

I am currently under the impression that the scum cannot be this under powered, unless those two arrows were in fact both from them. I am convinced that at least one of us that has role claimed today is scum.

Ugh, being up late to hit CN targets at update has done a number on my availability the past two days - and it looks like a LOT has happened in my absence. Let's see... Wow. There are way too many posts of note, so if I quote them all my post will be ungodly long. I'm going to snip out the quotes and instead respond to the content below. A LOT has happened indeed.

 

Now THIS is interesting - Lyner has posted a roleclaim late in the day that has effectively derailed the entire conversation. My first reaction is to be skeptical of such a claim - the odds of Lyner finding scum on night 1 seem low, and d3mon didn't stand out to me as scummy on Day 1. However d3mon has also been very quiet today... and frankly the fact that d3mon then immediately claimed Miller does NOT really count in his favor. It's on the list that Kevin says can be in the game, but I'm not sure I trust that - it's a little too convenient for him to have the ONE false-positive role when everyone else's ability seems to be active. AND he tries to hedge his claim by saying Lyner could be scum that hit the jackpot? That's a bit of a stretch.

 

So as loath as I am to switch my vote from Rafay - At this point we are all but forced to test Lyner's claim by lynching d3mon. The alternative would be to use Imran's role tonight to test d3mon's miller status... but the way he claimed does NOT make me think that it is credible. The fact that Imran shifted his vote is another point in favor here; I'll trust that if nothing else.

 

Unvote

Vote: d3mon

 

This will not preclude Rafay from being scum if Lyner proves correct about d3mon; for better or worse, Lyner's cop claim has superseded everything else. If Rafay is scum, this will give them one more night to use whatever role Rafay has - regardless of how this lynch turns out. However we have another point to add into the mix there as well: Kaz's claim that he investigated Rafay too.

 

At this point we know nearly everyone's role... that's somewhat disturbing for Day 2. Even with Kevin's statement that we're free to share what we know, there are only four of us left who have not referenced our role in some way during the day. Robert keeps fearing a mass claim will buff the scum despite Kevin saying otherwise - but with this many claims out in the open he may not be too far from the truth.

 

I'm also VERY curious about Robert's strong push against me prior to Lyner's claim. Earlier he started by saying he didn't believe my JOAT claim and that he thinks I'm a role cop - despite the fact I found a role cop in Imran. Then he says JOAT roles are frequently scum (role madness of this game aside). Then he asked Rafay - at the time the leading scum suspect - why he suspected EM and not me? Pretty solidly trying to turn votes in my direction. What really caught my eye though is something Robert said - that without claiming, his role makes him think I am lying somehow. If we trust ABD's watcher claim that started the roleclaim chain today, the only one who targeted me last night was Rafay. Therefore Robert did not *use* a role on me to gain information in any form. So I am quite curious what role Robert could possibly have that would make him so utterly convinced I am scum, just based on his simply HAVING the role - I really cannot think of anything that would fit that description. And if Robert is using it as the basis for his attacks on me, that suddenly makes Robert very suspicious in my eyes.

 

... and as I'm about to hit 'post' I see more replies added to the thread; tt looks like EM has jumped on the d3mon wagon too. Interesting. However it doesn't change the fact that voting for d3mon seems to be the only viable option now. Let's see if Lyner managed to find us a real scum on Night 1.

 

-Preston

 

Yeah I'd have revealed it way earlier if the claim train hasn't blown up this much, especially your claim

 

And there is no way of knowing what kind of dangerous abilities that D3mon has, so it's in town's best interest to kill him first regardless of Rafay's alignment

I am currently under the impression that the scum cannot be this under powered, unless those two arrows were in fact both from them. I am convinced that at least one of us that has role claimed today is scum.

Given that the only people who havent claimed or referenced their role's action so far are EM, Nick, Robert, and TBRaiders, three of those four would have to be scum for them to have stayed out of the roleclaim craziness today. EM has been fairly quiet, Nick has been practically inactive, Robert referenced his role itself as making him suspect me (but not his action) and TBRaiders seems the strongest town. 

 

I threw out earlier that both arrows could have been from scum as a potential way for this game to have been balanced; Imran had the idea they might already have a strongman role somehow. If Imran is right we'll probably see it tonight; otherwise we'll see two arrows fire. 

 

-Preston

Also good job Preston, much scummy :|

Yeah I'd have revealed it way earlier if the claim train hasn't blown up this much, especially your claim

 

And there is no way of knowing what kind of dangerous abilities that D3mon has, so it's in town's best interest to kill him first regardless of Rafay's alignment

Assuming you are correct about d3mon, yes. If so, I really wonder what he has... if we manage to take out the strongman role that Imran guessed might exist, that would be a HUGE win. I can't think of much else they could have that would tip the scales in a game like this.

 

-Preston

Also good job Preston, much scummy :|

If you're referring to me putting the hammer on d3mon, I've already commented on that. Unless it's tongue in cheek payback for me suspecting you on Day 1 for having made the same sort of voting mistake.

 

Otherwise I'm not sure what you're referring to; if you're looking at me listing the people who have NOT claimed, I can't have been the only one keeping track of all this - with the roleclaim insanity, keeping notes is the only way to have kept it straight.

 

-Preston

A lynch has been made
How can you lynch a dragon?
Well just look at this

• D3mon, Thranduil (6): Lyner, Robert2424, Imran Ehsan, ABigDeer, Electric Mango, Preston
• Lyner, Gandalf the Grey (1): Kaziocore
• Electric Mango, Dain II Ironfoot (1): Rafay

• Not Voting (3): Nick The Great, TBRaiders, D3mon

D3mon, Smaug the Magnificent, 1-shot arrowproof goblin jack-of-all-trades, has been lynched

It is now Night 2.
Please send all night actions to me by 1200 EST, Monday, January 26.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/lotr/images/4/43/Battle_of_Five_Armies.jpg

 

Somewhat true to the original story, the dragon Smaug was dead.
The battle raged through the night and it seemed that all the characters wished they had more information.
From the goblin side a huge flaming shot arc'd through the air.
Down it came and it seemed nothing could stop it.
In fact, nothing could stop it and unfortunately, it landed right on Gandalf the Grey.
(I guess we're departing from the original story again ... )

Lyner, Gandalf the Grey, 1-shot arrowproof jack-of-all-trades, has been killed.

It is Day 3.
TBRaiders and Electric Mango still have a broken arrow in them.

Deadline is 1200 EST, Wednesday, February 4.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.

Vote Count:

• Rafay, Radagast the Brown (0):
• Electric Mango, Dain II Ironfoot (0):
• Preston, Bain (0):
• ABigDeer, Bard the Bowman (0):
• Robert2424, Beorn (0):
• Imran Ehsan, Thorin Oakenshield (0)
• Nick The Great, Girion (0)
• Kaziocore, Legolas Greenleaf (0)
• TBRaiders, Gwaihir the Windlord (0)

• No-Lynch (0):
• Not Voting (9): Nick The Great, TBRaiders, ABigDeer, Electric Mango, Preston, Robert2424, Imran Ehsan, Kaziocore, Rafay

Deadline is 1200 EST, Wednesday, February 4.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch, or 3 at deadline.
 

First person to vote for d3mon and voted on by Kaz. Clearly the scum feared Lyner!!!

 

 

Oh and Imran what did your targeting of Preston tell....??? 

ok, only one shot last night. They appear to have strongman though as he was arrow proof. 

 

At Kevin: Did Mafia gain a buff? 

there also seems to be muitible JOAT's. 

Glad to see I am still alive, but would have rather Lyner stayed alive so he could keep using his role for us.  I thought I might stay alive with so many role claims out there, but knowing I would be an easy kill I just didn't know.  I am curious to see if somebody has any interesting night time results they want to post.  I am hoping somebody watched Lyner.

 

it be nice with a good NA that caught scum. 

 

So Lyner was a JOAT, D3mon was one also. I have to wonder if there are any more out there. Preston claimed JOAT also. that be 3 of them. 

Go team scum.. make me proud.

At Kevin: Did Mafia gain a buff?

 

It was a "strong" shot but not gained because of any mass role-claiming.  Everyone is doing fine and I feel like a master puppeteer!

Man, I have been so excited all day to see what happened and then see a bunch of posts from people who previously claimed to tell us what new information they have and nothing...