Moral: Khandov told you so. Although I was more for him simply sitting at his dacza, hugging his waifu:

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/720/084/768.png

ROFL!

Hey, who doesn't want to huggle Natalia Poklonskaya?

http://gawker.com/cia-source-putin-has-the-flu-1691376175

 

 

Sounds reasonable? 

Of course the CIA would know. :V

 

http://gawker.com/cia-source-putin-has-the-flu-1691376175

 

 

Sounds reasonable? 

Of course the CIA would know. :V

 

Sometimes they are right and sometimes they are wrong.....

BRB sending Vlad some TamiFlu!

Seriously though, if that was the case, why wouldn't Russia just say he has the fucking flu? Or is he supposed to be perceived as some God who is immune to illness?

BRB sending Vlad some TamiFlu!

 

Seriously though, if that was the case, why wouldn't Russia just say he has the fucking flu? Or is he supposed to be perceived as some God who is immune to illness?

I know right? That would be the same with North Korea. I don't think Russia doesn't want to be perceived as weak when they are fighting a proxy war against the West. 

BRB sending Vlad some TamiFlu!

 

Seriously though, if that was the case, why wouldn't Russia just say he has the fucking flu? Or is he supposed to be perceived as some God who is immune to illness?

News that your leader is sick in the middle of a war with Ukraine can look bad and of course, the media makes a huge thing about it.

Where is the evidence he got Nemstov killed? Let's not confuse facts and speculation. 

Evidence? You are looking for evidence ? Ha... read up on what happened to proponents of Soviet leaders during its history.

 

Where is the evidence he got Nemstov killed? Let's not confuse facts and speculation.

There is none, doubt there ever will be any. Still, it looks like they beat the shit out of the suspects to get a confession and then went after the activist that brough light to the issue

Ok then, I suppose all confessions and evidence from Guantanamo bay prisors is faulty and shit, because they've been tortured for years before being convicted. But hey, those standards don't apply equally, am I right?

 

Where is the evidence he got Nemstov killed? Let's not confuse facts and speculation.

Evidence? You are looking for evidence ? Ha... read up on what happened to proponents of Soviet leaders during its history.

 

 

I am trying to apply the same standards you'd apply on yourself, that is, innocent until proven guilty.

 

Speculation by media that is clearly taking a side does not make that speculation into facts, no matter how much they feed it down on their target audience.

 

But I can see the blatant hypocrisy here.

 

Once again, the problem isn't that Putin did right or wrong, but that he isn't yet another tyrant in pocket of the ruling clique.

Edited March 16, 201511 yr by Shahenshah

 

 

Where is the evidence he got Nemstov killed? Let's not confuse facts and speculation.

Evidence? You are looking for evidence ? Ha... read up on what happened to proponents of Soviet leaders during its history.

 

 

I am trying to apply the same standards you'd apply on yourself, that is, innocent until proven guilty.

 

Speculation by media that is clearly taking a side does not make that speculation into facts, no matter how much they feed it down on their target audience.

 

But I can see the blatant hypocrisy here.

 

Once again, the problem isn't that Putin did right or wrong, but that he isn't yet another tyrant in pocket of the ruling clique.

 

he isn't in the pocket of "our" ruling clique. >_>

 

 

Where is the evidence he got Nemstov killed? Let's not confuse facts and speculation.

There is none, doubt there ever will be any. Still, it looks like they beat the shit out of the suspects to get a confession and then went after the activist that brough light to the issue

Ok then, I suppose all confessions and evidence from Guantanamo bay prisors is faulty and shit, because they've been tortured for years before being convicted. But hey, those standards don't apply equally, am I right?

 

 

I believe the Guantanamo prisoners were tortured for information, not confessions, since there was already evidence for their involvement with terrorist groups. But it proved to be ineffective for the same reason why getting confessions is effective: People made up stories just to avoid being tortured, just like they confess to anything which that haven't actually done.

 

 

 

Where is the evidence he got Nemstov killed? Let's not confuse facts and speculation.

Evidence? You are looking for evidence ? Ha... read up on what happened to proponents of Soviet leaders during its history.

 

 

I am trying to apply the same standards you'd apply on yourself, that is, innocent until proven guilty.

 

Speculation by media that is clearly taking a side does not make that speculation into facts, no matter how much they feed it down on their target audience.

 

But I can see the blatant hypocrisy here.

 

Once again, the problem isn't that Putin did right or wrong, but that he isn't yet another tyrant in pocket of the ruling clique.

 

he isn't in the pocket of "our" ruling clique. >_>

 

While Putin and the West can be scary, I'm more worried about China's ruling clique. U.S. companies just keep funneling them money as fast as they can.

 

 

 

Where is the evidence he got Nemstov killed? Let's not confuse facts and speculation.

Evidence? You are looking for evidence ? Ha... read up on what happened to proponents of Soviet leaders during its history.

 

 

I am trying to apply the same standards you'd apply on yourself, that is, innocent until proven guilty.

 

Speculation by media that is clearly taking a side does not make that speculation into facts, no matter how much they feed it down on their target audience.

 

But I can see the blatant hypocrisy here.

 

Once again, the problem isn't that Putin did right or wrong, but that he isn't yet another tyrant in pocket of the ruling clique.

 

he isn't in the pocket of "our" ruling clique. >_>

 

and that is the crux of the problem, that is why their is outrage and bewilderment in media, while BFF tyrants run rampamt elsewhere.

 

 

I don't know where do you live but here, in my country, we're actually quite happy with full independence we got back after 200 years . After living for so long in the shadow of Mordor (erm.. Russia) there aren't many people here respecting yet another barbaric leader and his dreams of power at the expense of his neighbors.

Yes, he knows how to play some EU clowns (I'm in EU, I like EU, but most of our leaders are clowns). He's tough and ruthless but that makes him as much respectable as a random thug mugging you on a street.

Greetings Ali, you now have my attention. This post tells me you live in a country that was once under control of the Soviet Union.

This means I have a greater value of your opinion on what goes on over there. I'm an American that lived through the cold war, and the threat of nuclear war with the Soviet Union was the big fear of my early days. When the Soviet Union collapsed, and the iron curtain came down, it was like a great weight had been lifted that we lived through every day of our lives. You have the ability to tell me what it was like on the other side of that curtain, and what you would like to see happen during this time of change. From a former Soviet block citizen to a regular American citizen... what do you want to happen over there?

 

Even though I was 8 by the time Iron curtain fell I can tell no one give a $#% about nuclear apocalypse. Normal people did not concern themselves with such exotic threats...and I don't think our gov was concerned either. After all we got just a handful of nuclear shelters (and the closest one to me was a few hours of train travel away ). Generally people had more important problems on their heads, like this one for example:

 

That's not a queue to some exclusive club but to a typical shop. Even a rumor that there will be a delivery of fresh meat would spread immediately and result with such a line.

Now, after 10 years in EU, there isn't really much difference between us and other western countries, even though we're not as wealthy as them. All we need now is getting our law and economical freedom more into western standards.

 

BRB sending Vlad some TamiFlu!

 

Seriously though, if that was the case, why wouldn't Russia just say he has the fucking flu? Or is he supposed to be perceived as some God who is immune to illness?

I know right? That would be the same with North Korea. I don't think Russia doesn't want to be perceived as weak when they are fighting a proxy war against the West. 

 

Leaders there are the machos, the alpha males and they don't have problems that trouble us, common mortals. In non democratic countries you either are strong and survive or show weakness and get overthrown by some other power hungry tyrant.

Wow Ali... that's a grim picture, and what a fine line of automobiles. I take it from the words on the picture you are in Poland. After 10 years in the EU, I hope things are better for you. What amazes me the most is you can actually speak my language. The closest I can get to speaking something like German would be pulling some choice lines out of movies like "A Bridge Too Far" and failing at making it sound right. I am humbled, and have a soft spot for all of you that have lived through such conditions. I wish you happiness and prosperity in your new life, and I will do all I can from here to make sure you never lose it.

I can recommend you a good movie if you want to get a satirical perspective on what it was like when we were allied to our Soviet "brothers". Best movie about communism to date. Don't know where you could get it in the US though.

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065067/?ref_=nv_sr_1

Edited March 16, 201511 yr by ccabal86

I can recommend you a good movie if you want to get a satirical perspective on what it was like when we were allied to our Soviet "brothers". Best movie about communism to date. Don't know where you could get it in the US though.

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065067/?ref_=nv_sr_1

I would like to see it, unfortunately Netflix must not see enough profit to even recognize the movie was ever made.

In 1969 we were walking on the moon, and in Hungary they were banning this movie for making fun of oppressive government.

We have come a long way my friends, but a long way still to travel.

Wow Ali... that's a grim picture, and what a fine line of automobiles. I take it from the words on the picture you are in Poland. After 10 years in the EU, I hope things are better for you. What amazes me the most is you can actually speak my language. The closest I can get to speaking something like German would be pulling some choice lines out of movies like "A Bridge Too Far" and failing at making it sound right. I am humbled, and have a soft spot for all of you that have lived through such conditions. I wish you happiness and prosperity in your new life, and I will do all I can from here to make sure you never lose it.

Everyone can speak English more or less. That's international language so there's a big pressure to learn it. You, native English speakers have it worse, because you don't get any incentive to learn other languages .

And don't feel to soft for us, as we're perfectly fine . Wealth means nothing, only thing that counts is who we are. All we really needed was a freedom of choice and we got that more or less.

Those that live further to the east still got it as bad as we had it 20-15 years ago: Belarus, Ukraine...especially Belarus. A nation that lost over 30% of its population during WWII (that's 1-2 dead in each family) and if that wasn't to much already, while we were enjoying our freedom they got their own dictator...and sanctions from the west.

 

Anyway, all those westerners that admire Putin have never tasted the life of a common folks in the east. I'm not talking about anyone here, but generally about those fools that think Che Guevara's t-shirts are cool and Russia is a great land of joy, free of bloodthirsty banksters and the like. We'll thats true, there are no banksters there, but that's because Russian gov is the mobster and it does take any competitors lightly.

So he has returned. 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/world/europe/vladimir-putin-rumors.html

So he has returned. 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/world/europe/vladimir-putin-rumors.html

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/3c/3cd4c574db4569bd887e7ebce1dd4e5cab803059cca51333b4631e908d37eb66.jpg

 

So he has returned. 

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/17/world/europe/vladimir-putin-rumors.html

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/3c/3cd4c574db4569bd887e7ebce1dd4e5cab803059cca51333b4631e908d37eb66.jpg

 

LOL

 

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/81666000/jpg/_81666333_81666176.jpg

think the part of the world that knew about it was more amused over the idiotic cover-up then him actually being gone.

 

thats what you get when you go for a cult status and you get the sniffles for a week, just look at North Korea doing LOL things when there guy goes awol for a day >_>

think the part of the world that knew about it was more amused over the idiotic cover-up then him actually being gone.

 

thats what you get when you go for a cult status and you get the sniffles for a week, just look at North Korea doing LOL things when there guy goes awol for a day >_>

LOL he was gone for a few weeks tho. 

10 days, max. truelly missed only 4 days I believe.