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[RF-01] Endgame- Iron City Mafia- Mafia Win

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Regarding my voting: People are unable to make false claims? I'll be honest, I was unsure as to whether or not it was a truthful claim. I was willing to take the remaining time to see what EM would respond with. What I didn't expect was for someone to be as quick as to place the final nail in EM's coffin with 4 days left till end of day 1...

 

Vote mariomario190

Wow, you are doing exactly what you don't want me to do.
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  1. Spaztik Muffin (0) -
  2. Master Master Master Master Master Master Master Master Master Master Master Samus (0) - 
  3. Lyner (0) -  
  4. Kaziocore (0) - 
  5. TBRaiders (0) - 
  6. iSocialism (0) - 
  7. Imran Ehsan (5) - TBRaiders, iSocialism, Spaztik Muffin, emudevelopment and mariomario190 
  8. Big Ego (0) -  
  9. Raugln Bludhaven (0) -  
  10. Ovidsidios (0) -
  11. mariomario190 (2) - Samus and Raugln Bludhaven
  12. emudevelopment (0) -
  13. No Lynch (0) - 

Not Voting: Big Ego, Ovidsidios, Spaztik Muffin, Imran Ehsan and Kaziocore

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Imran Ehsan is the wagon leader w/ 5 votes.

2 more needed to lynch.

10 more days till deadline.

 

 

Mod Comments: Wow, that escalated fast!!! I see the new blood is ruthless and vicious in taking on the game veterans. Imran please come out and defend yourself sir.

 

Regarding my voting: People are unable to make false claims? I'll be honest, I was unsure as to whether or not it was a truthful claim. I was willing to take the remaining time to see what EM would respond with. What I didn't expect was for someone to be as quick as to place the final nail in EM's coffin with 4 days left till end of day 1...

 

Vote mariomario190

Wow, you are doing exactly what you don't want me to do.

 

 

Hardly. There's a difference between making an accusation and a token vote to display as such bringing a total to 2, and making the final lynch vote in an offhanded "I'm ending this" type of manner.

I'm just a vanilla townie. If you remember, I acted different when I was mafia last game. I am kind of following the town now. That is different than last time. I am going off of whatever I know, and I know nothing as when last time I knew who was scum and who wasn't.

There's no concrete evidence againsn't Imran despite obvious behavior descrepencies but compelling cases from samus to push mario. I think we will get both in the long run but a mental note about mario. As the claim that I switch my votes..... I changed my votes and posted concrete analysis about why citing theory or town strategy or what I like to call the Samus Offense :). The majority of my vote changes were to troll with you and the others were because of evidence while you mario simply pile on whatever bandwagon starts.

oh wow...thats a fast bandwagon. Hello scums! TBR you are completely wrong in your analysis. I dont think you are scum but the there are definitely scums on my bandwagon.

 

vote: mariomario

 

Agreed he is on one of the scum teams. He has been jumping on bandwagons since day 1 and is on my wagon again for a quick lynch..before i even get a chance to post.

 

 

1) Imran Ehsan - I am roughly 85% sure you are scum. The only informative post you provided D1 was when you provided your analysis between Hippo and EM, two townies, as to which you felt was more likely scum. Safe analysis when you knew neither was your scum mate. The rest of your posts feel different then when you played a town previously. What stood out to me was a random vote for iS0 along with "His posts looks scummy to me" as your logic. I had just taken notes on every post made up to that point and nothing iS0 posted came across as scummy.

 

You havent played many games with me but if you did you would know i am almost inactive in day 1 and hardly bother even reading the posts. Day 1 is pretty useless until the lynch happens because people post just fluff and completely useless stuff on hunches. Unless there is a lynch with people taking sides day 1 is boring and i dont pay any attention to it. This is how I play.

 

as for suspicions on iSo, i will go back and look at what he posted but as i said i dont pay much attention on day 1 normally and when i read his posts something much have struck me as unusual which resulted in a vote. i didnt really push for a lynch on him as it was just a hunch but voted him to place my suspicion.

 

I dont see how that qualifies as 85% scum and normally you have good analysis in games but this is so much way off that its almost ridiculous.

 

However, like I said, i dont think you are scum but what is funny is seeing most of these bandwagoners put me within 2 votes to lynch before i even get a chance to post.

 

Look closely at votes 3, 4, 5 on me and I guarantee you will find at least 1 scum there,

 

 

i'm going to assume Rafay didn't make it that it was 50/50 townies/scum and maybe something like 70/30 and with that assumption i'd say we have about 10/11 townies and 6/5 scum

 

Further analysis based off this assumption,

 

We've lost 3 townies & 1 scum, which means possibly we have either 7/8 townies & 5/4 scum left - again going off the assumption that it's 70/30 townie/scum ratio.

 

Also if there are multiple teams - based off this ratio assumption, TBR pointed out prior that there could be 3 scum teams of 2, or maybe 2 scum teams of 3 (which makes 6 scum in total and aligns with the 70/30 ratio assumption), now that we potentially only have 5/4 scum left, i'm assuming there may have been 2 teams of 3

 

I agree with Imran that either 3, 4, 5 of those 5 people who voted to quick-lynch him are possibly scum - its just such a quick bandwagon, but possibly not all as I wouldn't think one of the scum teams strategy would be to place all their votes in the same basket as that's just too obvious, so maybe only one or two of them are actually scum and are just looking at a cheap shot to lynch another townie.

 

EDIT:

 

The more I think about this, the more ideas I get, notice the people who go for the quick lynch, these are almost definitely scum.

 

If you look at KevinH's post prior to him being killed and found as scum, he was one of the people looking to majority lynch before the day proper ended, why? so scum could get their night actions quicker. This is one of the reasons I definitely think mario is scum.

I just dont think they would have made mario scum again.

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Imran had a good defense.

 

 

 

Bold your votes and unvotes emu.

I know that. Was on my phone... Meanie.

 

Back peddling..

Mhm.

Vote Imran

 

 

 

 

So, first the unvote was because I had a good defense. And then the vote comes on again..because..? So either:

 

a. You think my defense was not actually good and you think I am still scum. In that case your first post was a lie and you unvoted because I pointed out one of 3,4,5 is scum.

 

b. You think my defense was good and I am not scum so you unvoted. But then you put it on again because you got accused of back-pedalling. In which case you actually dont think my defense was good so your second post is a lie.

 

Which is it?

Unvote

 

You were quick to jump on my bandwagon. What changed your mind now?

 

I just dont think they would have made mario scum again.

Unvote

Imran had a good defense.

 

 

 

Bold your votes and unvotes emu.

I know that. Was on my phone... Meanie.

 

Back peddling..

Mhm.

Vote Imran

 

 

 

 

So, first the unvote was because I had a good defense. And then the vote comes on again..because..? So either:

 

a. You think my defense was not actually good and you think I am still scum. In that case your first post was a lie and you unvoted because I pointed out one of 3,4,5 is scum.

 

b. You think my defense was good and I am not scum so you unvoted. But then you put it on again because you got accused of back-pedalling. In which case you actually dont think my defense was good so your second post is a lie.

 

Which is it?

Unvote

 

You were quick to jump on my bandwagon. What changed your mind now?

 

Imran I re-voted for you because the bandwagon I was considering joining but waiting for more info. I said your defense was good which it was untill I had the revelation that the shift was scummy and re-evaluated TBR's point. I changed my mind and changed it back I was indescive about who was scum but I now am almost certain that it is you.

Well, the bandwagon on me I am very sure has scum members, because nobody pointed the vote changes until you Imran. And Shamwhale is possibly vouching for his scum buddy, Imran,  as he is getting too close to L and Shamwhale decided it was time to point out an (I admit) erratic voting pattern. It is my newbie playing style coming out, as this is my first game that I have actively participated in. I am quite sure that Imran is scum. I am not that sure about Shamwhale, but you are at the top with Imran too as long as you don't explain yourself.

Vote Imran Ehsan

Well, the bandwagon on me I am very sure has scum members, because nobody pointed the vote changes until you Imran. And Shamwhale is possibly vouching for his scum buddy, Imran,  as he is getting too close to L and Shamwhale decided it was time to point out an (I admit) erratic voting pattern. It is my newbie playing style coming out, as this is my first game that I have actively participated in. I am quite sure that Imran is scum. I am not that sure about Shamwhale, but you are at the top with Imran too as long as you don't explain yourself.

Vote Imran Ehsan

I did explain myself, read up :)

 

But this has to be a new record of voting, unvoting and re-voting lolol

 

Well, the bandwagon on me I am very sure has scum members, because nobody pointed the vote changes until you Imran. And Shamwhale is possibly vouching for his scum buddy, Imran,  as he is getting too close to L and Shamwhale decided it was time to point out an (I admit) erratic voting pattern. It is my newbie playing style coming out, as this is my first game that I have actively participated in. I am quite sure that Imran is scum. I am not that sure about Shamwhale, but you are at the top with Imran too as long as you don't explain yourself.

Vote Imran Ehsan

I did explain myself, read up :)

 

But this has to be a new record of voting, unvoting and re-voting lolol

 

Oh right. Sorry :D have I explained myself enough? I guess I am the new mafia king of voting and unvoting! XD

I must say that is the scummiest voting/unvoting back pedaling and revoting I have seen in any game i have played.


 

 

I just dont think they would have made mario scum again.
Unvote
Imran had a good defense.

 

 

 

Bold your votes and unvotes emu.

I know that. Was on my phone... Meanie.

 

Back peddling..

Mhm.

Vote Imran

 

 

 

 

So, first the unvote was because I had a good defense. And then the vote comes on again..because..? So either:

 

a. You think my defense was not actually good and you think I am still scum. In that case your first post was a lie and you unvoted because I pointed out one of 3,4,5 is scum.

 

b. You think my defense was good and I am not scum so you unvoted. But then you put it on again because you got accused of back-pedalling. In which case you actually dont think my defense was good so your second post is a lie.

 

Which is it?


Unvote

 

You were quick to jump on my bandwagon. What changed your mind now?

 

Imran I re-voted for you because the bandwagon I was considering joining but waiting for more info. I said your defense was good which it was untill I had the revelation that the shift was scummy and re-evaluated TBR's point. I changed my mind and changed it back I was indescive about who was scum but I now am almost certain that it is you.

 

 

Which shift are you talking about specifically?

This day is going too fast :lobster:

 

I guess nobody got any interesting information from last night.

 

If there are 2 scum teams and NK that means we have at least 5 bad people, probably 4 if we exclude Kevin

 

Considering how fast Imran's wagon builds up I believe there are at least 1 or 2 baddies in the wagon:

 

TBRaiders, iSocialism, Spaztik Muffin, emudevelopment and mariomario190

 

 

For starters,

 

Vote: iSocialism

This day is going too fast http://s3-media1.fl.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/UfkQRi_NE-ZEDIqcsG9c4A/ms.jpg

 

I guess nobody got any interesting information from last night.

 

If there are 2 scum teams and NK that means we have at least 5 bad people, probably 4 if we exclude Kevin

 

Considering how fast Imran's wagon builds up I believe there are at least 1 or 2 baddies in the wagon:

 

TBRaiders, iSocialism, Spaztik Muffin, emudevelopment and mariomario190

 

 

For starters,

 

Vote: iSocialism

While I do think scum team 2 could have some people voting for Imran, I have no doubt that scum team 1 (Imran's team) has been completely silent, until probably your post.  What I do like about this format is scum players have to pretend they are town, but maybe not too townie or they get killed by the other scum team.  Good chance Kevin was actually killed by the other scum team to support that hypothesis.  Was Kevin on your and Imran's team?

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