The Force Awakens
 
Only the following roles may exist in this game:

Vanilla Townie, Bodyguard, Commuter, Sane Cop, Rolecop, Vanilla Cop, Flavor Cop, Doctor, Friendly Neighbor, Follower, Gunsmith, Innocent Child, Jack of All Trades, Jailkeeper, Mafia Goon, Mafia Encryptor, Mafia Godfather, Mafia Ninja, Mafia Strongman, Mafia Traitor, Mason, Miller, Motion Detector, Neapolitan, Neighbor, Neighborizer, Roleblocker, Rolestopper, Serial Killer, Tracker, Universal Backup, Vigilante, Voyeur, Watcher

The following modifiers may also exist in this game:

Ascetic, Backup (with or without primary role present), Bulletproof, Enabler (with or without primary role present), Even/Odd Night, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot

 
Character names have been assigned such that townies have good-guy names from the Star Wars universe and scum have bad-guy names. Roles do not correlate with the Star Wars names (Yoda would not necessarily be the most powerful).
 

You are Snap Wexley, a Vanilla Townie. Your power is in your vote. You win when the Town controls the game.

 
Players:

Commander Shepard Finster Baby
Electric Mango
Fox Fire
Imran Ehsan
iSocialism
Kaziocore Shahenshah
Lyner
Mandarijn
Perez
Rafay
Road2Victory ccabal86
Robert2424
Rusken
Samus
The Warrior
Yehom

• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote inthread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched.
• You may vote No Lynch.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night. The Mafia may speak to each other at Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• All dead players (lynched or killed) can no longer participate in the game.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• The game is won when only one faction remains in the game, or nothing can prevent the same.
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed, but you may reveal your role if you have something interesting to share.

Game Days will last as many real-life days as there are players alive.
Game Nights will last 48 hours but will include at least one weekday.
 
Fox Fire, Poe Dameron, Ascetic Sane Cop, lynched Day 1
Rusken, Leia Organa, Motion Detector, lynched Day 2
Samus,, Chewbacca, Vanilla Townie Universal Backup who became Ascetic Sane Cop, killed Night 2.
Rafay, R2-D2, 3-shot (ascetic-proof) Rolestopper lynched Day 3
Mandarijn, Admiral Ackbar, Macho Flavor Cop, killed Night 3.
Robert2424, BB-8, Odd Night Tracker, killed Night 3.
Perez, Maz Kanata, Voyeur, lynched Day 4.
Ccabal86, Luke Skywalker, Non-Consecutive Night Watcher, lynched Day 5.
Yehom, Ello Asty, Bodyguard, killed Night 5.

whisper:*Must kill* 

 

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Anyway, there's only 2 days left so we need to decide who to lynch. I am going with:

 

Vote: Rafay

 

Apart from lurking and making suspicious posts I also have some extra information on him. I was not going to reveal my action/power but with only 2 days left and as we are still undecided on who to lynch,  I feel the information I have on him can possibly help the town decide on whether to lynch him or not.

 

I used my action on Rafay on N1. From that, I know he is a 3-shot Role Stopper. I do not know his alignment (town or scum). After I found out his role, I was unsure whether he is infact a town power role or a scum with a power role. I decided to monitor him on D2 and D3 and see if I can ascertain his townliness or scumminess. He has however made no move to help the town or even indicate if he has a power which may help the town at night or scum hunt during the day. He has continued lurking and making one-line posts accusing someone or other and then disappearing. Compare that to others who have claimed their roles or have attempted to help the town to scum hunt. As others may have noticed I have always expressed reservations about anyone who claims to have a power role to be automatically be considered a townie. This is partly because of Rafay. As D2 progressed I noticed that almost  every one in this game has a power role. I believe the scum also have power roles apart from their kill ability. Otherwise, the balance of power will be too much towards the town if there are say just 4/5 scum with no action at night while all townies are using theirs.

 

So I started thinking what are the potential roles scum can have. Obviously they may have the usual Godfather role, but they probably will also have some roles which counters the various watchers/trackers/followers in the game like the Role Blocker or the Role Stopper. I wont be surprised if they have their own Watcher/Follower as well or the Neopolitan that iSocialism has claimed. These are all roles which are extremely helpful to the scum to counter the various power abilities of the town.

 

Now coming back to Rafay and his Role Stopper abilit, I now believe that the Role Stopper is an extremely useful tool for the scum to have in a game which has a lot of townie watchers/trackers as well as protective roles such as the bodyguard that we have seen and also probably a doc. A role stopper can target a townie and nullify all these power roles while his scum buddy makes the kill. So a townie targetted by a role stopper can not be protected by a doc or be watched by a Watcher making it possible for his scum buddy to make a perfect kill without anyone being the wiser.

 

So in summary, coupled with Rafay's suspicious activities and his suspicious role I believe he is the best lynch choice for today. I would have preferred to monitor him for another day or so but with deadline approaching fast we need to make a decision so I am gonna go with my gut feeling on this one. To make it clear I do not know his alignment so he may very well be a townie power role so everyone has to make up their own minds regarding the info I have presented.

Well, thats interesting. I've been suspicious of Rafey since my very first post and he has always made it to my scum list.

I want to hear from EM, ccabal and now Rafay 1st before I jump on this wagon.

You make a good case, I can follow you as you seem to be pro town, but I hope we don't make the same mistake as with Rusken and don't lynch TW for another day... (He's again not voting for anyone and thus not giving us information for the 2nd straight day)

They need to hurry up.

Dammit, I had substantially less time for this than I would have liked.

 

MOD: When is the deadline?

Perez seems the most guilty to me. Has been quiet/ lurking for a lot of this game. Perez, Rafay and I were all getting pressure for that. Shortly after Perez tries to take the heat off of himself and onto another so he voted for me because he knew others might jump on the wagon. It seemed opportunistic. Also his half role claim doesn't sit well with me. Either come out and say it or don't say anything at all. Something seems off with him.

I have a hunch what Perez is. I also feel if I said it, the mafia would target him immediately.

With all the "evidence" put forth. I'm going to

Vote Rafay

I don't like how he is quiet and only comes in to say something vague and call someone scum then leaves.

Dammit, I had substantially less time for this than I would have liked.MOD: When is the deadline?

Tuesday at noon (EST) I believe.

I agree with the reasoning. Rafray. You have to be more active. I'll place a vote on him between now and deadline. Since I'll be off of work for the next two days. Rafray. If your reading this. I suggest posting. At least try to help find scum.

I have a hunch what Perez is. I also feel if I said it, the mafia would target him immediately.

Then I would suggest you hold it back unless absolutely necessary.

That's the plan shah. Otherwise I would say it.

I would like to hear Rafay's defense first, but I'm following Imram's logic and Rafay isn't being building a great case for himself by being so quiet

Rafay: Last Active Today (from his profile)

 

My post was on the 20th. So either he has visited the forum and not read this thread. Or he has read it and is deciding on how to respond.

edit: actually my post was on the 21st (time difference between my place and forum is confusing). But still he was on the forum after my post.

That's the plan shah. Otherwise I would usay it.

But nonetheless, its not too hard to deduce what could be one of those roles. So unless Perez is a scum, I believe he may need a protection/watchful eye.

 

Same goes to an extent for the only confirmed townie, Lyner.

Q: What is Jabba the Hutt's middle name?
A: "The"




Vote Count

Electric Mango (2): Perez, ccabal86,
The Warrior (2): Mandarijn, Finster Baby,
Rafay (2): Imran Ehsan, iSocialism,
Yehom (0):
Perez (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
ccabal86 (0):
Shahenshah (0): 
Lyner (0):
iSocialism (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Finster Baby (0):

No Lynch (2): Yehom, Rafay,

Not voting: The Warrior, Lyner, Electric Mango, Robert2424, Shahenshah,

 
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Tuesday, February 23, at noon EST.
 

 

MOD: Can the mafia talk during the day?

Yes

 

 

Did we discuss about this yet?

 

This is a lot of advantage for mafia, especially during the lynching point(like this) since they can manipulate votes easily

 

 

Vote: Rafay

 

Also that's a pretty powerful role Imran

 

I guess since there has been a lot of roles being thrown around we should plan our actions tonight? especially tracking and protective ones

So, with more and more people claiming townie roles, I thought, that maybe there are less Scum then we suspect there are? 

 

Instead of 4 or 5 maybe there are 2 scum?

 

If not, than please explain to me why there must be 4/5. (This is my first time playing, be gentle )

So, with more and more people claiming townie roles, I thought, that maybe there are less Scum then we suspect there are? 

 

Instead of 4 or 5 maybe there are 2 scum?

 

If not, than please explain to me why there must be 4/5. (This is my first time playing, be gentle )

Game balance I would suppose.

Game must always be balanced. an unbalanced game cause angry players. These day phases last forever, if the game would be unbalanced, there be allot of angry people with Kevin. 

I'm leaning towards Rafray being Scum hard. He seems not to care to post or check the game, or is purposely avoiding posting to try to avoid being lynched. He's lurked, he's on the no lynch bandwagon, (Course Yehom is also), I don't see him helping in any way. I Agree with the reasoning for votes already upon him. My vote puts him being lynched at deadline, and if he can convince me to remove it before then, I'll be active to do so, but he's going to have to post. He dose himself no favors by not posting between now and deadline. 

 

Vote Rafay

I almost forgot about the no Lynch vote. That is totally scummy.

 

Man, I'm really torn now between EM, Rafey and Finster, and heh, look Yehom is on the no Lynch wagon too.

 

I really think a few role claims were less than credible. I'm gonna sleep over this.

Q: Why is the Millenium Falcon so slow?
A: Because it takes a millenium to go anywhere.


Vote Count

Rafay (4): Imran Ehsan, iSocialism, Lyner, Robert2424,
Electric Mango (2): Perez, ccabal86,
The Warrior (2): Mandarijn, Finster Baby,
Yehom (0):
Perez (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
ccabal86 (0):
Shahenshah (0): 
Lyner (0):
iSocialism (0):
Mandarijn (0):
Finster Baby (0):

No Lynch (2): Yehom, Rafay,

Not voting: The Warrior, Electric Mango, Shahenshah,

 
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Tuesday, February 23, at noon EST.

I try to make it balanced. Frequently, the losing side disagrees.

Allright guys, did my best to catch up, here are my thoughts:

 

I strongly believe iSocialism is mafia, though I have little else to add besides what Imran already mentioned (he's our most pro-town player btw acting player at this point, not counting confirmed townies like Lyner), but reading the whole thread for beginning to end, it stands out even more. I guess when you arrive this late into the game, there's little to say that hasn't already been said in one way or form.

 

• First of all, iSoc's roleclaim seems bogus. It just seems pretty off for this game, seeing as there are probably no vanilla townie roles whatsoever. Now unless Kevin wants to intentionally throw us off (hasn't really happened way back when I played actively), having ANOTER investigative role on top of Cop+Backup seems pretty pointless.
   
• If you watch his input/reactions, you will notice that he talks a lot, but doesn't really contribute with anything new or fresh. Instead he tries his best to give "soft" support (not outright bandwagon, he's too good for that) to players who at the time appear to be most town in the eyes of the public. When you do a complete reading, it really just seems like he's trying to appear townie, knowing full well he can safely support myslynches as he's just going with the flow.
   
• To me the biggest red flag is the Rusken vote to be honest, and a huge blunder for anyone town who was voting for him. That's for the fact that it's the absolute WORST scum tactic is to try and get a CONFIRMED townie lynched, if anything you guys really should have seen as a colossal mistake/non-reading on his part, that goes double for experienced players, yet you fell into the trap. I believe there are some scum in that voting bloc (EM probably one of them btw), as they could safely blend in with all the other bandwagoners.
   
• But of course Mafia would not put all their eggs in one basket, they need someone on the outside, with a supportive, yet still secured position for when the killing turns out to be a mislynch. Just read this post, and tell me it doesn't sound like insurance: http://ironcentral.org/community/topic/55574-kh-11-the-force-awakens-mafia-day-3/?p=826802

 

I strongly urge everyone to consider my arguments and vote for iSoc

 

 

Vote: iSocialism

Interesting perspective, ccabal. I was thinking that iSoc was more townie than scum, but your point about his role is an interesting one. Having a Neapolitan would be rather pointless if everyone does indeed have a power role. Although I guess that Samus was technically a vanilla townie until he replaced FF? Would the Neapolitan exist if there was only one vanilla role?

 

What other thoughts do you have after reading through the thread?