I have no questions to ask, this game is really hard to follow with the wall of texts. Trying to remember who said what is a headache. I don't think TW is a likely candidate, and this bandwagon without all of the questions is strange to me. Kevin and CoD are calling each other out, mainly CoD. and now voting for the same person back to back? It's more of a hunch but this is where I lie.

 

Vote Kevin

He stood up for Rhiz, maybe because he believed what he was saying, or maybe because he thought it would earn him town creed. Also the only time I've seen kevin this active is from a previous game in which we were both scum. Not a lot of evidence, but it's more of a hunch.

I have been lurking today because it has been a busy day and I have not had the opportunity to get to my computer and respond fully to the new information that has been brought to the table. Trying to do so from my phone would take a year. I have been reading the thread however when I have had a minute here or there so that I don't fall too far behind on what is going on. I think you all would agree that falling behind several pages in this game can make it difficult to get back up to speed. It's rather hilarious though that at least two of you are voting for me simply because of lurking when at least three people have been far worse offenders.

 

And what reasons are those exactly Fermion? Because Mandarijn made one passing comment about thinking I might be scum yet provided zero evidence of that being the case? Or because I was the last to vote for Rhizo? I was reasonably certain that Rhizo was not a friend of the town's. I didn't know whether or not he was scum but based off of the information I found on the Red X wiki after we learned that Rhizo was Red X, I was 95% certain that if he wasn't scum he was a serial killer at the very least. Robert's night 1 narrative hinted at there being multiple killing roles present and serial killer seemed to fit Rhizo's character role. So yes I decided to vote for him. I believed that either way it turned out, he was going to turn out to be anti-town.

Its pretty interesting that we suddenly had a flurry of activity from perennial lurkers and votes on kevin as soon as TW was voted on. someone kicked the beehive and the bees are coming out.

Its pretty interesting that we suddenly had a flurry of activity from perennial lurkers and votes on kevin as soon as TW was voted on. someone kicked the beehive and the bees are coming out.

vote*

 

Its pretty interesting that we suddenly had a flurry of activity from perennial lurkers and votes on kevin as soon as TW was voted on. someone kicked the beehive and the bees are coming out.

vote*

 

 

I see yours and SMs votes*

 

*Mafia Links Go!*

 http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Trackerhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Followerhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Watcherhttp://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Voyeur

 

Look at all 4 links. They are similar, but with key differences. 

 

I'll even throw a bone out there for everybody. I like all these roles. But its a pain to manage.

 

 

Seems reasonable to me.

  

Game summary:

 

Day 1 No lynch

Night 1 Shahenshah killed by Rhizo the SK, no other kills

Day 2 Rhizo lynched

Night 2 TheDoom killed by Fermion, Mandarijn also killed

 

Claimed roles:

Imran Ehsan, tracker

KevinH, follower

Rafay, watcher

Fermion, vigilante

 

Unvote.

Vote: The Warrior

Bandwagoning with the one who just unvoted off of me.

 

So we have a supposed tracker, follower, and watcher and we have Robert saying that he likes the four related roles tracker/follower/watcher/voyeur but that they are hard to manage. So either he is saying that he has included them all and its going to be hard for him to manage or that he likes the four roles and isn't incorporating them all because they are hard to manage. So we can either assume that the fourth role exists (if the other three role claims are true) or that the fourth role doesn't exist as a wrench from the Mod. What was the purpose of quoting that Kevin?

 

Nice bandwagon vote btw. You've been sketchy ever since your indefensible switch from your Rhizo vote. I was suspicious of you then and questioned you on it. To which you responded by echoing your defense of "scum wouldn't post that much". You didn't unvote because you weren't sure. You unvoted because you wanted to hedge your bets and took the chance that the lynch wagon would receive the appropriate number of votes without you while tying to look good in the very slight chance that Rhizo turned out to be townie. And now a bandwagon vote on me without any actual reason.

 

Unvote.

 

Vote KevinH.

My current theory is that TW and iSoc are scum with the 3rd spot being a toss up between d3mon and SM. Kevin's claim pretty much cleared fermion which he wouldn't have done if he were scum. His action can also be confirmed by a 3rd player.

 

Against that we have the lurker group. I say we lynch TW today and if he turns up scum we hit the jackpot. At worst we will just lose a lurker who hasn't done any scum hunting or tried to help the town.

@mod when does the day end since we got the extension?

I find it interesting that the lurker team all come out of hiding to vote for Kevin All at once. I'd still like Rafay to confirm his results to be sure though.

Rafay, who did you watch?

Vote: The Warrior

 

Unofficial vote count:

 

The Warrior (5): Chaplain of Death, KevinH, Imran Ehsan, Fermion, Rafay

KevinH (4): D3mon, Sister Midnight, iSocialism, The Warrior

 

The bees are buzzing. Unofficially, that's a lynch.

I have been lurking today because it has been a busy day and I have not had the opportunity to get to my computer and respond fully to the new information that has been brought to the table. Trying to do so from my phone would take a year. I have been reading the thread however when I have had a minute here or there so that I don't fall too far behind on what is going on. I think you all would agree that falling behind several pages in this game can make it difficult to get back up to speed. It's rather hilarious though that at least two of you are voting for me simply because of lurking when at least three people have been far worse offenders.

And what reasons are those exactly Fermion? Because Mandarijn made one passing comment about thinking I might be scum yet provided zero evidence of that being the case? Or because I was the last to vote for Rhizo? I was reasonably certain that Rhizo was not a friend of the town's. I didn't know whether or not he was scum but based off of the information I found on the Red X wiki after we learned that Rhizo was Red X, I was 95% certain that if he wasn't scum he was a serial killer at the very least. Robert's night 1 narrative hinted at there being multiple killing roles present and serial killer seemed to fit Rhizo's character role. So yes I decided to vote for him. I believed that either way it turned out, he was going to turn out to be anti-town.

If you were so sure about Rhizo, why didn't you vote him earlier? Why the late, final vote?

 

There was a reason that the scum targeted mandarijn. I believe it was that he had alluded to you being a scum, and they were afraid that he may actually deduce the scum.

 

The only one in a weaker position than you, IMO, is Rafay. The only thing we know about him is that he watched on night two. This could also mean he is a scum joat. Or scum watcher, instead of being a town watcher which would've been strange because Imran is a watcher too and i'm almost sure he's town

Vote: The Warrior

 

Hammers the vote without revealing results. Fermion if you are the Vig kill him or KevinH. Rafay refusing to confirm Kevin's claim is scuuuuuuumy.

Doesn't that depend on how The Warrior flips?

 

Voyeur = Mandarijn 

Imran = Tracker

KevinH = Follower

Rafay = Watcher

 

The bees buzzing on my wagon were all trying to save the Warrior.  Call pest control.

 

I don't know why Rafay didn't post results and confirmation of me but wouldn't a true scum make up a good story that fits the known facts?

 

 

Hammers the vote without revealing results.

What does that mean?

 

 

 

The bees buzzing on my wagon were all trying to save the Warrior. Call pest control. I don't know why Rafay didn't post results and confirmation of me but wouldn't a true scum make up a good story that fits the known facts?

I'm buzzing around you because you're yummy, but you seem scummy. 

Stop talking ppl. I think The Warrior's been lynched.

Stop talking ppl. I think The Warrior's been lynched.

So damn scummy looking.

 

And KevinH you could easily both be scum with Warrior. Nothing confirms you as town except his results which he refuses to give. Why arent you suspicious of him and his refusal?

 

 

Stop talking ppl. I think The Warrior's been lynched.

So damn scummy looking.

And KevinH you could easily both be scum with Warrior. Nothing confirms you as town except his results which he refuses to give. Why arent you suspicious of him and his refusal?

Probably because he is scum .

We need to have a strategy for the night. If TW is scum then I would assume atleast two scum to be on the KevinH bandwagon and I think our followers/trackers should target 2 of the 4 on that list. Also, in this case, I don't think the vig should target anyone. Also, since I am on that list, I would like to be tracked/followed to clear my name.

 

If TW comes up as town, then its very likely that both KevinH and Rafay are scum. I would recommend our tracker to follow one of them..

 

I think if we follow a strategy we should be able to win this game by simple elimination. Anyone else have any thoughts on the strategy?

"15. End of the day phases will be announced by the opening post/story of the day. "

 

I think we can talk until the end of the day is announced.

 

What exactly is scummy about me?

• I claimed that I was StarFire the Follower and nobody counter-claimed.
• I claimed to follow Fermion Night 1 showing no action and that was not disputed.
• I claimed to follow Rafay Night 2 showing a watching ability and that was not disputed.
• (The fact that Rafay voted for The Warrior rather than me implies that he is not disputing my claim.)
• The mod "threw us a bone" essentially saying there was a voyeur, tracker, follower, and watcher.

Meanwhile, the bees buzzing around me have not claimed anything, except D3mon as Commuter which I tend to believe because that explains a missing kill Night 1 and nobody has said anything to the contrary.

 

So in my mind, iSocialism and Sister Midnight should be next to lose their stingers.

 

http://www.colonialpest.com/assets/2014/07/Bee-Stinger.jpg

Oh Kevin, put that prick away if you're going to abuse it. Right now you are on the top of the scum list because you make claims without back up. Also many of your posts seem just plain suspicious. You can't wait to throw shade with little evidence to back it up. Granted, I don't know exactly what to look for when someone makes a scummy statement, maybe Imran will fill me in eventually. I may not be cut out for this game because a lot of the assuming and accusing and distorting go against my grain, but you seem to be way too good at it! I don't know if TW is scum, and I really hope he is because we're getting low on townies, but if anyone appears manipulative here it is you.

Addendum because I can't edit or talk about the game with anyone privately, except Robert. This is for Kevin: No matter what I say in this game, always remember that I wub you and still think you have the finest wood I've ever polished.

The fun of the game is that it's expected that the scum be something other than themselves.

 

I'm being myself now.

 

Also: the "hammer vote" is the last vote that finishes the lynch.

Since the mod hasnt closed the thread yet, we can leave our last thoughts.

 

The night actions should be decided based on whether TW turns up scum or not. If he is scum, then all those on the kevin wagon are suspect. If not, all those on the TW wagon are suspect. Its simple.

 

Any last thoughts TW?

 

• I claimed that I was StarFire the Follower and nobody counter-claimed.
• I claimed to follow Fermion Night 1 showing no action and that was not disputed.
• I claimed to follow Rafay Night 2 showing a watching ability and that was not disputed.
• (The fact that Rafay voted for The Warrior rather than me implies that he is not disputing my claim.)
• The mod "threw us a bone" essentially saying there was a voyeur, tracker, follower, and watcher.

 

The information on Fermion was pretty much public information at that point.

 

Your information on Rafay has not been confirmed even though your claim identifies him as a not very powerful watcher role, and him being a confirmed townie or nearly confirmed townie would be a much stronger position for the town.

 

Therefore by Rafay hammered the vote in on TW rather than confirming your claim and his own identity and results it throws a lot of shade on the two of you. Also TW could easily be a sacrificial lamb and I'm suspicious of you both regardless of whether he comes up townie or scum. That suspicion won't go away until Rafay makes his results public.

The fact that I've asked for Rafay's results and his response is to hammer the lynch in and then tell everyone to stop discussing is literally scummier than anything anyone has posted all game. Therefore I stand by my opinion that if Fermion is a Vig he should kill Rafay tonight, regardless of the result on TW.