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Background INFO: So, this all happened within roughly a timeframe of ~4hours ago to ~30minutes ago.

 

I live in a part of Texas that for years has been fairly empty. We have a college city (3 colleges) next to us, a highway within 15minutes that goes straight to Dallas, and one of the nicest areas in Texas imo just about 10minutes down the road. However, our area had been nothing but 3 neighborhoods of maybe 2000 people and ranches. Hell, we just got a McDonalds a few months ago.

 

Well, the area has boomed up in the past year. Wal-Mart, Starbucks, McDonalds, 3 Subways, they're building a movie theatre, a Target, a Kroger, and two apartment complexes. All within a 5minute drive. They're also building a high school out here.

 

Now, for the funny story I'd like to share.

 

Over where they're building the Kroger, our town has maybe two ISPs. Suddenlink (which the majority have) and Verizon, which just came in a little bit ago. Suddenlink had a fiber optic cable they needed to move from where it was currently located to a place closer to the street, which they told the contractors they'd be able to do in 3 weeks. The contractors don't have 3 weeks to wait so they sliced the wire, cutting everyone's internet off for about 3-4hours, and forced Suddenlink to go over there. This is all second hand information, but I was pissed about the internet til I learned this was why. I honestly just started cracking up and don't know how to describe that.

 

Just thought I'd share.

 

TL;DR - Contractors sliced ISP Fiber Optic Cable because the company wouldn't come out.


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What can I say...those contractors are very resourceful persons and know how to deal with problems :D. Be grateful that it took only 3-4 hours. In here where I live I would probably be waiting for 2 days ;).



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Just wait until your McDonalds employees start demanding $15/hour minimum wage.


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Look what happens when you get a McDonalds, the whole neighborhood goes to hell in a hand basket and you lose your internet!

Least I can enjoy a big mac while the town riots

 

Just wait until your McDonalds employees start demanding $15/hour minimum wage.

Maybe they should work on getting my order correct the first time before they start jumping the gun on that. :P


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Just wait until your McDonalds employees start demanding $15/hour minimum wage.

I wouldn't call it minimum, i'd call it "Living Wage"



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Just wait until your McDonalds employees start demanding $15/hour minimum wage.

I wouldn't call it minimum, i'd call it "Living Wage"

 

Of course... that was always my goal in life... land a luscious position bagging fries, and raise my kids to do the same.


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Just wait until your McDonalds employees start demanding $15/hour minimum wage.

I wouldn't call it minimum, i'd call it "Living Wage"

 

Of course... that was always my goal in life... land a luscious position bagging fries, and raise my kids to do the same.

 

If you work full time, anywhere, you should be able to have enough money to live. A mcdonalds worker, working ever week for a year only makes 15080 before taxes, and around 11k after taxes. Paying for car insurance, medical, rent, electricity, gas, food, it's barely enough to live. 



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If you work full time, anywhere, you should be able to have enough money to live.

You could come up with a pretty good bumper sticker for Bernie in that... but the problem is finding anything in the Constitution that grants the Federal Government the power to regulate wages. It's really a crazy idea if you think about it. It costs more to live in San Francisco, California than it does to live in Deadwood, South Dakota... and your one size fits all theory will kill millions of jobs all over the country. Is there some law somewhere that all jobs have to support a family? So, no one can do anything, for anyone, for just pocket scratch and play money?

 

If there is to be such a thing as a minimum wage... the decision to have one, and what it would be, should be granted to local Governments. First, because it's more efficient, and second to take this issue out of the hands of opportunist candidates that keep using the issue to divide the people and rev up their base.

 

What I don't want to see is whining McDonalds workers wanting to Bernie down my city. Good parenting would work wonders.


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Minimum wage is far below cost of living here. I know more than a few people who have to work 60 hours a week just to live in a crappy apartment with at least 1 roommate. At one point I needed 5 roommates and worked 40 hours a week. Making 50% over minimum for my state and I was barely getting by, let alone have savings. Now I do not believe that people should get paid $15 to drop some fries and nuggets in a paper bag, but they certainly deserve better than working hard and being in poverty in America. 


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Now I do not believe that people should get paid $15 to drop some fries and nuggets in a paper bag, but they certainly deserve better than working hard and being in poverty in America. 

Then start dropping hard drives into computers, drop engines into cars, drop pipe into the ground... I drop mail in the post office and make more than that. These jobs are not created to care for families... they are created to train kids for life. No one deserves it until they earn it. 


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Now I do not believe that people should get paid $15 to drop some fries and nuggets in a paper bag, but they certainly deserve better than working hard and being in poverty in America. 

Then start dropping hard drives into computers, drop engines into cars, drop pipe into the ground... I drop mail in the post office and make more than that. These jobs are not created to care for families... they are created to train kids for life. No one deserves it until they earn it. 

 

 

Those jobs are all limited. Imagine that every person doing the fast food jobs now got those jobs. Employers would pay less because there are more people, and suddenly even more people are out of luck. Plus with the advancement of technology would cause a lot of those jobs will be eaten up in my lifetime by robots.


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Those jobs are all limited. Imagine that every person doing the fast food jobs now got those jobs. Employers would pay less because there are more people, and suddenly even more people are out of luck. Plus with the advancement of technology a lot of those jobs will be eaten up in my lifetime by robots.

This is the same story throughout the history of the Earth. It's not fast food's fault that those jobs are limited. Those jobs are limited because Government intrusion into business has forced them out of the country where they can operate without Government intrusion.

 

I have always been in the position to actually hire people for many years... but I will never hire anyone as long as I will be held responsible for their entire life. When I can't handle it anymore, I'll turn to my family. So who's fault is it that those jobs are limited?


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Those jobs are all limited. Imagine that every person doing the fast food jobs now got those jobs. Employers would pay less because there are more people, and suddenly even more people are out of luck. Plus with the advancement of technology a lot of those jobs will be eaten up in my lifetime by robots.

This is the same story throughout the history of the Earth. It's not fast food's fault that those jobs are limited. Those jobs are limited because Government intrusion into business has forced them out of the country where they can operate without Government intrusion.

 

I have always been in the position to actually hire people for many years... but I will never hire anyone as long as I will be held responsible for their entire life. When I can't handle it anymore, I'll turn to my family. So who's fault is it that those jobs are limited?

 

 

 

They are limited because of greed. Technically we aren't that far from machines doing most our work for us. Hell I would say that you are part of the problem, you could hire more but don't because you are worried about money. A lot of employers are like that and I don't blame them, I have to run the bare minimum at my job or else we wont make a profit. Now if the government didn't intervene that wouldn't solve the issue either since we would see selfishness from the businesses, just like what happened in the past.

 

Also in the past we had more middle class jobs, now they are extremely limited and the middle class in America is shrinking; while the poverty level increases. Then you have to consider that the average age for a minimum wage worker now is 35 years old. They used to be jobs to get to a good job, which again aren't there anymore because of corporate greed.


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The relatively poor guys in America are about as rich as our well to do guys because of difference in currencies :lol:

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Business exists to make money... business does not exist to employ people. No one understands this until they own a business. The only reason to employ people is to make money. If they can't make money, they won't do it. So the jobs become limited.


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The relatively poor guys in America are about as rich as our well to do guys because of difference in currencies :lol:

 

The cost of living here is higher. For example I could go to Mumbai and buy a house straight out for less than 12 months rent here. It costs me $4.8k a month here to live at the same standard that $1.8k a month in Mumbai.


Business exists to make money... business does not exist to employ people. No one understands this until they own a business. The only reason to employ people is to make money. If they can't make money, they won't do it. So the jobs become limited.

 

And that is the problem. We put people into space, explored nearly every corner of the Earth, and have machines that can do almost anything. Why cant everyone in the US have a good education? Never have to be hungry? Always be healthy? 


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Also, without greed, no one would do anything. I see greed everywhere and from everyone... and the most greedy are the very people that complain they can't make enough. I live in Las Vegas where greed has built an entire city designed to make greedy money off of greedy people. I go to a casino a couple times a week because I bowl on leagues. A guy walks in and sticks a $100 bill in a game and hits a $400 payout. That's not enough for him because he's greedy, and wants more. So he keeps playing until loses the $400 back and continues to lose the $100 he put in. Then he goes out and grabs a sign demanding $15 an hour because he just can't make any money. Greed is everywhere.


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Also, without greed, no one would do anything. I see greed everywhere and from everyone... and the most greedy are the very people that complain they can't make enough. I live in Las Vegas where greed has built an entire city designed to make greedy money off of greedy people. I go to a casino a couple times a week because I bowl on leagues. A guy walks in and sticks a $100 bill in a game and hits a $400 payout. That's not enough for him because he's greedy, and wants more. So he keeps playing until loses the $400 back and continues to lose the $100 he put in. Then he goes out and grabs a sign demanding $15 an hour because he just can't make any money. Greed is everywhere.

 

People do things without being motivated by greed all the time, and I am not suggesting that it goes away. Greed is good, just not at the expense of others. For instance gambling as you pointed out isn't a bad thing if done for entertainment. Ideally everyone in the USA would get the basic human needs and would work for fulfillment, and luxury items. Unfortunately we are far from being able to provide for everyone here, not because we cant but because of people who are mega-greedy. My question is cant we have our cake and eat it too? 


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