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Shit doesn't look good, guys...

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I think one of the major issues when talking about climate change is that it isn't a "single facet" issue. There are so many interlinked pieces and a majority of people who debate the topic will pick at one issue calling it a false flag and saying that it disproves climate issues as a whole. I have read every post up to this point and many have mentioned varying facets of climate change issues. A lot of things to consider...

 

*One person was correct above - We may have higher emission standards, but we are way up there in overall usage per capita.

* Ice being able to reflect solar radiation is another issue. Less ice = less ability to reflect.

* Ice is also acting as a storage for other "green house gases" such as carbon dioxide and (more "dangerous) methane gas. Melting ice releases these gases which further elevates global temps.

* Terminology is easy to manipulate. I've heard countless "jokes" regarding global warming/cooling and how one is causing the opposite effect. Media loves to point this out and use it as a basis to "debunk" climate issues.

* Our oceans are dying and not just on small scale populations. Entire species of marine wildlife are migrating to areas they have never been recorded as living. There are many causes but the vast majority have boiled down to ocean temperatures. Yes, you should care about coral bleaching. Reefs are a great indicator of health in a marine biome. As of April more than 50% of the Great Barrier Reef was dead (bleached) or dying.

* A warmer ocean means a more acidic ocean. An ocean that is more acidic kills wildlife which further increases acidity. Reproductive cycles are interrupted and the population continues to decline.

* A 2 degree drop in the average global temperature (in C) was enough to put us into the "Little Ice Age". As we continue to climb on the global temp, all life is effected. Weather patterns changes. Entire ocean currents cease to exist (which is also tied into ice melting). Crops produce less. All of these things cause cascading issue in both the social and economic realms.

 

These are just some of the points that need to be discussed and addressed both individually and collectively. If for nothing else, what does it hurt to initiate measures to combat waste of energy and emissions? Who gets hurt by making things better overall for everyone regardless of how one feels about climate change?

howmany consecutive months did we break the global temperature record? Like 16? Since I don't remember them talking about it in September I guess we got a winstreak breaker >_>

 

and yeah the average Joe doesn't care about climate nor can he single handidly stop it. I guess we should start putting lead in our cars again, cause you know, nobody cares...

 

Grats, you just equated a "thousands of years" change to a "tens of years" change. Heck the current sharp increase could actually trigger an increase from the Earth itself, you know the one seen in your graphs. All the increase in greenhouse gasses (or lets just say 99.9%) are anthropomorphic, that one is quite easely measured cause we know where they come from (carbon-fuels) and we know howmuch we use.

 

I didn't equate anything. You may want to take a look at the graph again. Also you stated some numbers, but you forgot to put some source...these things are very important because they allow to distinguish facts from your opinions.

Well you did put up that graph and went with "just the next cycle", which to me seems that you wish to equate current rising to the rising found in your graph posted. My scale remark can be seen with this link. yes the Earth has previously done cycles of warming and cooling, it just never did it in decades (unless we go with outside interference, aka asteroids).

 

As for the greenhouse sources, I can give you this link. If one makes some generalisation about atmosphere make-up and volume, you can link the increase in ppm CO 2  directly to the global output of CO2. I believe I once saw a calculation (sorry, can't find that one at the moment) that about 75% of output CO 2  ends up as increase in atmospheric CO2. We should be happy that due to more CO2, plantlife (where possible) is flourishingdue to increase in nutrients (aka the CO2). 

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