I want to weigh in on a couple things.

 

1st, I don't find Aquinas any more scummier for his change of votes on KevinH. I followed his logic and nothing pinged my scumdar. If anything he helped the town by putting pressure on someone. That's a good way to squeeze out some information that otherwise may have remained hidden.

 

2nd, don't think KevinH is any more or less scummy because he wants a Day 1 no lynch. I've played lots of games with KevinH and that's how he does it every time.

 

3rd, I agree to a certain point that more active people tend to get pro-town points from me over the "lurkers". Granted it's never always one way or another but I have always felt that information is the towns best weapon and those willing to weigh in and make their opinions knows help the town. I have always felt that the scum would want to blend in as much as possible. One way to do that is not let anything slip or give any information that might help the town win.

 

I don't like spam either but I find it helpful even if people post just a little bit. It can be anything on their mind at all. It doesn't even have to be anything new. Anything to let your opinions knows can help, like agreeing w/ someone or not.

 

However, there are experienced players out there who say the opposite. Some say that those with power roles (doc, cop, mafia, sk, etc) do more posting than others. They claim that the increased responsibiltiy is what drives them back to the thread more than those with just vanilla roles.

 

Something to think about anyway.

the rate a which some one posts is dependant on a lot of things

 

for me i am just busy and try to find time to play this out

and i can't go out because i have some foot injuries :|

and i'd wish more people would post cause i'm bored :|

1st, I don't find Aquinas any more scummier for his change of votes on KevinH. I followed his logic and nothing pinged my scumdar. If anything he helped the town by putting pressure on someone. That's a good way to squeeze out some information that otherwise may have remained hidden.

 

2nd, don't think KevinH is any more or less scummy because he wants a Day 1 no lynch. I've played lots of games with KevinH and that's how he does it every time.

 

1. I have good feelings about Aquinas too, he certainly seems to be thinking rationally and said he would change his vote if it was proved that it was ill-placed.

 

2. I agree that KevinH always follows this strategy, but I do not think it should let him off the hook. By following his strategy he witholds information from the town, while we are anlayzing vote patterns and other simple things that help give the lynchings direction. In my eyes, since KevinH always follows this strategy he will always be hurting the town.

 

My perogative in this game is to have the town win the game, and choosing a lynch candidate is the only power I have as a townie. There is nothing that says I have to lynch the scummiest, I am going to vote to lynch to give the town the best chance of winning. Right now, I have no clue about who seems the scummiest, everybody seems to be acting rationally and townally. Therefore, I'm going to keep my vote on the weakest leak, KevinH. I've noticed in more than one past game that KevinH will vote if pressure is placed on him. Until he votes, or someone who seems scummy appears, I will keep my vote on him.

 

(Disclaimer: I <3 you KevinH, I used to believe in the no-lynch thing too.)

and i can't go out because i have some foot injuries :|

Good thing we've got a hospital for you. :gangster:

 

1. I have good feelings about Aquinas too, he certainly seems to be thinking rationally and said he would change his vote if it was proved that it was ill-placed.

Never been one of my strong points and that certainly isn't one right now. :safari:

 

VOTE COUNT

sojourner (4): Kaziocore, Electric Mango, Falzis, Calderone

KevinH (2): Sir Jesus, sojourner

No Lynch (1): KevinH

 

Not Voting (6): Aquinas, Narsis, junkahoolik, Theophilos, Nerau, Martino

 

With 13 alive, 7 is needed to lynch.

Edited June 4, 200917 yr by molestargazer

Good thing we've got a hospital for you. :gangster:

 

 

Never been one of my strong points and that certainly isn't one right now. :safari:

 

 

*SPAM* (For Martino >< ) Sucks about your foot, especially in the summer time. If it was winter it wouldn't be so bad. Anyways, after I saw my post count I feel the need to start climbing up the ranks a little bit. I'll try to post more so you don't get bored.

 

*Real Stuff*

 

Sir Jesus, you said that while Kevin's playing style is par for the course you are still voting for him because he is not helping the town because he will not vote lynch on Day 1. While I agree that it is preferable if he does so, I have a question about your logic. True, KevinH is not a help in discovering possible clues on Day 1. Sorry Kevin, I love your style but that's how I see it. Anyway, KevinH has a very unique set of analytical skills that make him a very valuable asset to the town later in the game. It's better to take a hit on Day 1 because he'll make up for it as time goes.

 

I've played several games with Kevin and I have always been impressed with his insight to the inner mechanics of the game. He has always appeared to be a sharp minded strategist and has helped his fellow townies win several games. He's not the weakest link and you said that he's not giving off any scum tells. If you agree with opinion that Kevin can be an asset later in the game it is only logical that you change your vote.

 

*Disclaimer*

 

I'm not saying that Kevin is giving me any pro town vibes at all. In fact he's one that I'm keeping a watchful eye on because of what I've stated before. This argument was only meant to give insight into my personal views of KevinH and to intellectually challenge SirJesus on his vote.

I agree. The fact that KevinH has a strategy he is so gung ho defending this early in the game only proves his knowledge on the subject, even if it is not one I agree with.

Unvote

 

I'm going to reread everything.

I've noticed in more than one past game that KevinH will vote if pressure is placed on him.

I always act in the town's best interest -- even if the rest of the townies don't see it that way

 

I don't vote for no-lynch out of principle. I vote for no-lynch because I believe that the "scumtells" that some people claim are not reliable at all. It's about a 75% chance of killing a townie that we will need later and I don't like those odds.

 

On the other hand, if I am about to be lynched, that's a 100% chance of lynching a townie and I will do what I can to avoid that. Forcing me to put a vote on the second-place candidate is not gathering any additional information; the vote for me might as well go on the second-place candidate straight off because it's the same effect.

 

I will also vote on day 1 if I know there's not a cop or pro-town power role (or that the chances are small that they exist).

I might even vote on day 1 if someone convinces me they already know something.

 

Nobody has convinced me yet here. The no-lynch vote stands.

We're not getting anywhere except the No Lynch debate still. I do still think sojourner is very suspiciousssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

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We're not getting anywhere except the No Lynch debate still.

 

that's true. change subject people... otherwise i'll start to consider you scum for trying to spam my mind to death with totally unrelated information.

Well I still suspect KevinH, in as much as I think he has a pro-town role (of some kind) ...

 

As to the rest ... have no indications one way or the other ...

1 Aquinas

2 Calderone

3 Electric Mango

4 Falzis

5 junkahoolik

6 Kaziocore

7 KevinH

8 Martino

9 Narsis

10 Nerau

11 Sir Jesus

12 sojourner

13 Theophilos

 

I think the scummiest is this person.

1 Aquinas

2 Calderone

3 Electric Mango

4 Falzis

5 junkahoolik

6 Kaziocore

7 KevinH

8 Martino

9 Narsis

10 Nerau

11 Sir Jesus

12 sojourner

13 Theophilos

 

I think the scummiest is this person.

 

 

Well guess what, you just rolled a hard 7 and voted for yourself. I guess this means that I'll change my vote to you then. I guess your little joke back fired. JK

Well guess what, you just rolled a hard 7 and voted for yourself. I guess this means that I'll change my vote to you then. I guess your little joke back fired. JK

 

I just rolled a three and that's...Electric Mango! Coincidence? I think not!

Clearly because you accused KevinH, you're scum and the random generator knows it!

lol. i switch between 10 and 7... this is a sign!! they must be really scummy!!

Here are your random numbers:

 

7

 

Timestamp: 2009-06-04 20:15:13 UTC

 

That's you Kevin... lol

Not a lot of activity today. Bah, I'll check in later.

I got 7 too lol

Well guess what, you just rolled a hard 7 and voted for yourself. I guess this means that I'll change my vote to you then. I guess your little joke back fired. JK

 

it was just a joke EM, no need to get so defensive...

I assumed the JK was for Just Kidding.

 

I forgot to mention that if it comes up 7 then the interpretation should be that person is townie.

LOL low activity = weekend lull

I assumed the JK was for Just Kidding.

 

I forgot to mention that if it comes up 7 then the interpretation should be that person is townie.

 

lol... so you're taking yourself off the market... not very nice of ya!!

I will be a bit inactive this weekend.

 

But everyone else is usually inactive so nobody will notice anyway.