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[KH-19]The Last Jedi Mafia, Town Wins

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I'm confused:

 

 
During the day the Gladiator can choose someone. Usually done in the same manner a daykill is, he can CHALLENGE . All votes are reset. Only two players are now votable, the Gladiator and his target. It is almost always one-shot.

 

I couldn't find any other variants but, doesn't this mean that either of them has to be the gladiator?

 

Seems brewers doesn't know about this, so Canik must be the gladiator.

 

Canik why do you want to lynch brewers?

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I'm confused:

 

 
During the day the Gladiator can choose someone. Usually done in the same manner a daykill is, he can CHALLENGE <TARGET PLAYER>. All votes are reset. Only two players are now votable, the Gladiator and his target. It is almost always one-shot.

 

I couldn't find any other variants but, doesn't this mean that either of them has to be the gladiator?

 

Seems brewers doesn't know about this, so Canik must be the gladiator.

 

Canik why do you want to lynch brewers?

 

o_O

 

@KevinH Please clarify how the gladiator role works. Is the gladiator sometimes a town role? If not, does that mean that one of either Canik or Brewers is definitely scum? Isn't that kind of idiotic given that if we get it wrong we'll lynch the other person next round?

I asked to be replaced out, so I'll not contribute much from now on. Anyway, if we can do no lynch, let's do that and hope the SK kills scum. I'm very glad we got 2 anti-towns though :)

 

looks like we have a vig?


OK

 

Why do people think Canik is the gladiator?

 

During the day the Gladiator can choose someone. Usually done in the same manner a daykill is, he can CHALLENGE <TARGET PLAYER>. All votes are reset. Only two players are now votable, the Gladiator and his target. It is almost always one-shot

 

Either Lachiton or Brewers is the gladiator if Kevin did it according to the wiki.


 

 

Is the gladiator sometimes a town role?
 

 

gladiator can be either faction


OK, LMAO I thought that it was brewers and lachiton that could be lynched. So yeah, it's probably Canik.

 

@Canik care to confirm?

I'm interested to know why Canik targetted Brewers for a Gladiator fight when Brewers RoleClaim paints him as town to me? I doubt an Anti-SK role would be from another faction (of course, it very well could be a mafia/werewolf role).

I'll wait to hear Canik's reasoning, but it seems we are stuck between Brewers and Canik today.

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"Young fool. It was I who bridged your minds. I stoked my apprentice's conflicted soul. I knew he was not strong enough to hide it from you, and you were not wise enough to resist the bait! Now, you will give me Skywalker, and I will kill you with the cruelest stroke." -Supreme Leader Snoke

The role is

One-shot Gladiator (Target two players at night; if both alive at daybreak, they are the only two lynch candidates that day)

This came from the Greater Idea list of roles referenced at the beginning and it's a town role.  I understand the the Gladiator page is different but we're going with the Greater Idea definition.

 

A No Lynch vote is acceptable.

Vote count:


Brewersalliance (0):
Canik (1): Brewersalliance, 


No Lynch (0): 

Not voting: Jazzy95, Rafay, LordSunday, SeaBeeGipson, Canik, Robert2424, Legoboyvdlp, Sister Midnight, Yehom, Lachiton, Kitkat16, Rhizoctonia, Samus,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, February 14, at 23:00 EST
 

 

 

3 kills again? So yeah I think we can very much confirm that theres a SK.

 

And he died too with Lord MK? I mean was Lord MK the SK?

 

 

 

 

 

Imran Ehsan (7): SeaBeeGipson, Brewersalliance, Lord MK, Canik, Robert2424, Legoboyvdlp, Sister Midnight,
  

 

 

Wow this has gotten confusing. Both voted to kill a town player so either one could be a scum?

 

Should we go for a no-lynch then?

 

 

t's a town role.
 


 

A No Lynch vote is acceptable.


Based on this, I'm leaning towards a no-vote myself. It seems we are stuck between town and town for the lynch, and I see no benefit in that. I'm not voting officially yet as we still have some discussion we can gather on the lynch yesterday of a townie and the kills made. I know I was the most vocal regarding the lynch, and I was fairly confident Imran was scum, and I was wrong. Instead, I led the lynch on a townie cop that specialized on werewolves. I expect to gather some attention towards that, and I also expect at least 1-2 scum/werewolves to be sitting on the wagon. MK being on the wagon and being scum eliminates at least one in my mind.

Another thing I want to try and evaluate is that we know there are 3 factions playing against town, We've seen two scum dead, a werewolf dead, SK is still alive, and we've seen (5?) townies dead. I might be wrong on the townie numbers as I can't check as I got a meeting in a few minutes. I assume with 21 players to start, we have 3 scum, 3 werewolves, and a single SK. So, we should have possibly 1 scum left, 2 werewolves, and 1 SK. 

OK, so @KevinH, do you mean that the gladiator is not a lynch candidate today? Or is he one of the two, and he targeted someone who died?


Right,

Vote: No lynch

 

Canik is town, Brewers seems pro-town and is an anti-SK role.


best get this over ASAP

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"And you didn't fail Kylo, Kylo failed you. I won't." -Rey

This version of the Gladiator chose Brewersalliance and Canik as the targets. They both survived the night, so they are the only lynch candidates today.

Vote count:


Brewersalliance (0):
Canik (0):  


No Lynch (2): Legoboyvdlp, Brewersalliance,

Not voting: Jazzy95, Rafay, LordSunday, SeaBeeGipson, Canik, Robert2424, Sister Midnight, Yehom, Lachiton, Kitkat16, Rhizoctonia, Samus,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.
Deadline is Wednesday, February 14, at 23:00 EST
 

Yes why to rush it when the day just started. So according to what Kevin said, gladiator is town and he/she targeted the 2ND highest vote grosser brewers and Canik who was on Imran's wagon.

 

I can understand brewers being considered pro town though I have my doubts still. Curious to know why Lego thinks Canik is town too. I didn't get any indication on part of Canik to pass him off as town.

If you look at the role ability posted by Kevin, it says gladiator can target two players and if they survive the night, only those two are available for lynch. So if I read that correctly neither brewers or Canik is gladiator.

So it's a town role as well, which I find kinda strange. Someone must be convinced that either Canik or myself is scum since a townie is now forcing one of us to be lynched (or no lynch at all)

 

My guess would be someone who voted for me and thinks I'm town is the gladiator, maybe Rhizo idk

Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong.,

I originally read it as Gladiator is a town role and can target someone for a "gladiator fight" as I will call it. Assuming Brewers RC, this means Canik is the gladiator, right? As a pro-town role, Canik would be town.

unless, and again, correct me if i'm wrong, I'm understanding others are saying a Gladiator can pick two targets, so neither can be the gladiator. So essentially, we have a 3rd party not involved with Brewers nor Canik that picked them both. Which the way KevinH said "This version of the Gladiator chose Brewersalliance and Canik as the targets. They both survived the night, so they are the only lynch candidates today." Makes me think the latter is now what is going on. 

Okay, so correct me if I'm wrong.,

 

I originally read it as Gladiator is a town role and can target someone for a "gladiator fight" as I will call it. Assuming Brewers RC, this means Canik is the gladiator, right? As a pro-town role, Canik would be town.

 

unless, and again, correct me if i'm wrong, I'm understanding others are saying a Gladiator can pick two targets, so neither can be the gladiator. So essentially, we have a 3rd party not involved with Brewers nor Canik that picked them both. Which the way KevinH said "This version of the Gladiator chose Brewersalliance and Canik as the targets. They both survived the night, so they are the only lynch candidates today." Makes me think the latter is now what is going on. 

yes I think the latter is what happened 

Seeing as there were 3 kills again this night I'm going to retract my statement saying that there isn't a SK in this game, which also makes Brewers claim a little more believable. At this moment I not really feeling anything in particular about Canik, which makes me question why the Gladiator appointed him for a duel with Brewers

I suppose I should speak now. I was hoping CANIK would post by now, but he hasn't. Maybe this comes as a surprise, maybe it doesn't. I am the town 1 shot gladiator you are looking for. After the end of the last day phase, I had 2 people at the top of my scum list. Brewers, and CANIK. They are also some of the most vocal people around here. Not saying I didn't debat other people, they just strike me as more scummy. I could be wrong, but I needed to choose 2 people I thought would survive the night. As I'm only a 1 shot, (unless there is a reloader that Kevin mentioned). With a 3 deaths the first night and another 3 deaths last night. I figured one of two things would happen, if I managed to survive long enough, the odds of me choosing 2 declined each night. Or I get killed without a chance to us my role.

 

I suppose I could of kept quiet, but didn't feel it help the town. I'm also now cannot use my ability again unless there's that reloader, though TBH If there was a reloader, I'd imagine there be multiple 1 shot a abilities. In witch case there would probably be a more powerful town role then mine they could use it on. But again theory.

 

I'm in the belief town may be in a hole now.with cop down, it's going to be hard for us town people to win. Especially with the track record here.

 

I'll leave this at this for now.

"Young fool. It was I who bridged your minds. I stoked my apprentice's conflicted soul. I knew he was not strong enough to hide it from you, and you were not wise enough to resist the bait! Now, you will give me Skywalker, and I will kill you with the cruelest stroke." -Supreme Leader Snoke

The role is

 

One-shot Gladiator (Target two players at night; if both alive at daybreak, they are the only two lynch candidates that day)

 

This came from the Greater Idea list of roles referenced at the beginning and it's a town role.  I understand the the Gladiator page is different but we're going with the Greater Idea definition.

 

A No Lynch vote is acceptable.Vote count:

Brewersalliance (0):

Canik (1): Brewersalliance, 

No Lynch (0): 

Not voting: Jazzy95, Rafay, LordSunday, SeaBeeGipson, Canik, Robert2424, Legoboyvdlp, Sister Midnight, Yehom, Lachiton, Kitkat16, Rhizoctonia, Samus,

 

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch, or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is Wednesday, February 14, at 23:00 EST

 

An you either give the full definition of Gladiator or link us to find your definition. Like others, I saw the Mafia Scum definition. Are you saying the gladiator got to pick two people and he is not one of them?

 

Also, supersaint means he could have brough5 someone else down with him if he were lynched, correct? You gave out some very powerful bad guy roles, didn’t you!

Seeing as there were 3 kills again this night I'm going to retract my statement saying that there isn't a SK in this game, which also makes Brewers claim a little more believable. At this moment I not really feeling anything in particular about Canik, which makes me question why the Gladiator appointed him for a duel with Brewers

What happened tonight to make you feel there isn't a SK.

 

2 scum factions + SK = 3 kills.

 

We've had 3 kills every night, why would that change?

 

I'm confused how you came to the conclusion explain please

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