Night 1, there were 3 kills - supposedly 1 mafia, 1 werewolf & 1 SK? Night 2, there were 3 kills. But I used my action to target MK and kill him and so that means either 1 of the 3 scum faction were either inactive, an x shot SK or a faction's action was blocked. Night 3, inclined to think Rafay is an x shot as I don't believe all 3 actions got blocked last night

 

 

Can I assume from this that you are a 1-shot Vig and only used your power on N2 when you killed MK?

 

 

yes.

 

and ABT how don't we gain anything?

 

If Rhizo dies tonight, we have an extra day to lynch scum?In addition, you don't think your third scenario is a VERY risky move to make from the point of view of a werewolf?

You still haven’t explained why you targeted MK. If you are a 1shot townie vig why would you use your one shot on night 1?

 

maybe read the thread?

Y'all seem to be more focused on my reason behind lying when it's quite clear i'm town more than finding who the next scum are.

 

Wolves are probably jumping for joy behind the scenes.

 

Not going to bother re-explain myself lol, if y'all want to lynch me - go ahead.

If I were to guess who you're, Samus, I'd say you're indeed a town Vig, but other scenarios are possible and cannot be ignored. There are other roles (like JOAT) that can be scum aligned and can be reloaded, but none of them would allow nasty tricks to be pulled, so I think they're out of the picture.

 

The only one that allows to trick the town is PGO. He could be confirmed as a Vig in a scenario when a scum is discovered, if he manages to lure someone to visit him. At the same time, if Reloader dies, Vig turns into a simple townie so it's easy to explain why he's not being targeted.

I admit it's not a strategy without risk, but in case of success it almost equals mafia victory (mafia confirmed as town with so many other players being unknown and just 2 misslynches available). That's why no matter the odds it's a great risk.

 

A weak point here is TW's statement that he visited Samus (which in case he's PGO, condemns both of them). It could be mistake, it could be meant to assure visiting Samus is safe, but still it's putting the fate of the whole faction on one bold move, which wouldn't be wise.

 

I want to believe you're Vig, but all you can give is your word. Assuming you made that lucky shot at MK, how can you prove it? It can be easily explained other way (like a normal situation where every scum faction delivers a kill). If for example Rafay turns out to be an "odd night Serial Killer" (I mentioned it some post ago, but messed it up then) it will be a strong proof that there were other kill sources on N2...but for now there are no such indicators.

 

 

If for example Rafay turns out to be an "odd night Serial Killer" (I mentioned it some post ago, but messed it up then) it will be a strong proof that there were other kill sources on N2...but for now there are no such indicators.

 

Fair play.

 

When Rafay is lynched, we'll get to find out before the night starts if he had a modifier like x shot or "odd night". Hopefully that will 100% confirm my role.

 

A lot of people have chimed in on this situation I have presented, some have kept entirely quiet.

 

I can reveal other information but will hold onto it until I talk to Mod, as I don't want to feel like I'm "ruining" the game or be unfair, though I don't think my revealing it would do so, as I planned on revealing it anyway when I claimed, but in fairness to game I'll ask Kevin first.  Nothing I've said is me ruining the game, as it's my fair input on who I think possible werewolves are for which I was trying to find and my love for the game.

I have an interesting idea, but first I'd like to hear if Rhizo is going to reveal some information as he mentioned.

 

Personally I am finding it hard to believe you.  You lied about being a nurse, and you admit it, so IMO anything you say becomes suspect and I hold almost no weight to your statements.  Rhizo still needs to die but I think you should be next 

This sounds scummy as hell. A player lying about their role doesn't automatically mean they are scum, there are other motives to deceiving the players other than to form a wagon.

 

I lied partly because I wanted to stay alive longer, but also to see how that would influence others decisions.

 

So tell me who killed MK? And tell me why what reason I would be asking for a reload, if I were not town vig, other than to kill Rhizo tonight.

 

You can vote for me and push a wagon (doubt it will work though), but you'd just be doing the werewolf's work for them. We're on the same team >_>

 

Well maybe if you do decide to lynch me, then werewolves won't have to waste their kill on me, maybe they'd just kill TW instead and we'll be 2 town down.

 

 

 

I'll say the following. If samus isn't dead by tomorrow we have really dumb scum or he is scum.

 

is the objective of all mafia games to kill samus asap

 

Wait, now your a Vig, your too flip floppity. Samus has landed in my top suspects now. 

 

Maybe if you didn't ignore my posts, and actually read them, you'd understand what's happening

 

This is playing right into werewolves hands, you guys not seeing this. 

 

 

 

Who killed MK?  You and your fellow werewolves?  Now you could just be using that to use for your story, and whose going to say different?  Not like werewolves are going to come out and say you're lying if you're one.  Not saying 100% you're, but you act as if you claiming that makes you somehow locked in town.

 

I already explained why.  You very well could be a werewolves player with a 1 shot and already used it.  Now you want reloaded, and you and your other werewolf will in fact kill me, but not because of a reloaded vig town, but because it'll just be the normal werewolf kill, or you could be a werewolf vig and want reloaded so you get two kills tonight, you claiming you killed me while your other werewolf kills another.  Or you could be a Werewolf vig, who still hasn't used it, and maybe bank another shot?  Not sure if AbT reloads someone who hasn't used it if they still get an extra shot, meaning they have 2 to use.  

 

I haven't heard from Mod if ABT reloads you tonight if you even could use it.  I don't see how you could use it the same night you're reloaded, as at the start of the night you had no power as you claim, so don't see how, and to me would have to wait another night.  Thus reloading you is absolutely pointless and a total risk.  But have to see if Kevin will answer, or maybe he did and I missed.

 

Lying about your role is one thing, though don't find strategy smart for town to use is you'll always have this surrounding suspicion you are switching claims.  But the fact you fake claimed after you were basically a VT make absolutely zero sense and quite harmful to town.  And you guessing right, out of 7 people, with nothing more then MK being on the lynch of Imran is not convincing, the same as anyone else, and at the end of day before your supposed Vig kill you voted CoD.  

 

 

 

I can reveal other information but will hold onto it until I talk to Mod, as I don't want to feel like I'm "ruining" the game or be unfair, though I don't think my revealing it would do so, as I planned on revealing it anyway when I claimed, but in fairness to game I'll ask Kevin first.  Nothing I've said is me ruining the game, as it's my fair input on who I think possible werewolves are for which I was trying to find and my love for the game.

I have an interesting idea, but first I'd like to hear if Rhizo is going to reveal some information as he mentioned.

 

 

 

Still waiting a response from Kevin about it.  I left that up to him, as even though I gave up, I don't intend to ruin his game if he rather thinks it would make it unfair, or make it unfair for one side or the other.  I care about the integrity of the game, be it I'm all but dead, and don't want to ruin it.  That being said, my information I don't necessarily believe only favors Town or Werewolves, and in fact could be useful to both.  But again, I'm leaving it up to him.

I was initially going to wait to I saw an obvious time to use it.

 

Nothing specific about him that I couldn't say about others.

 

My suspected list of scum were the ones that voted for Imran with no real context apart from "YEAH I AGREE WITH SBG. VOTE!". And when he was eventually killed and found not to be scum, I knew I was going to use my action on one of them.

Sorry I didn’t see this. This really is shady as hell! A one shot vig just semi-randomly picks a target on the first night, then pretends to be a nurse so he won’t get NKed, because scum is less likely to kill a nurse than a person who used his one shot, then announces his role and asks to be reloaded? Nope. Not working for me at all!

 

scum:

Rhiz

Afay

 

Looking scummy:

Samus

 

Town:

Me

Robert2424 - RC'ed and confirmed by Kevinh

Ali bin Turban - RC'ed and confirmed by Robert

 

 

Looks townie, but can’t rule out werewolves:

Brewersalliance - confirmed by TW (but could be a werewolf)

Jazzy95 - there's still possibility for him to be Werewolf FBI Agent

The Warrior - there's still possibility for him to be Werewolf Cop

 

Not sure / no clear reading

Canik

Kitkat16

Lachiton

LordSunday

Yehom

 

Because I’m on iPad mini it is hard for me to count posts, but some peeps in the not sure category, are hardly posting at all.

Samus' posts are super weird. Is there some sort of category of player where they win if they get lynched?

Samus fake claiming nurse after he fired his shot is I guess what raised the red flag. The only possible reason Samus decided to use his shot was because Reloader was revealed. But still killing MK on N2 was a huge gamble and could have backfired easily. Only thing I find weird is that you were already on the good books of AbT, why would you make such a bold play if you're scum? 

 

Anyways I dont envy the choice that AbT has to take tonight. But you are already weighing in the pros and cons so I guess you will take the right decision. Just dont reveal your final decision here, make the wolves guess lol.

 

Ok a crazy thought - what if Samus is second SK? I know it sounds bit of a stretch as that would mean around 8 anti town players but as Rhizo said the set up is not favorable for scum as well with different factions killing each other. @Jazzy, can you please investigate Samus tonight, just for my peace of mind? With Rafay dead, theres not much to do for you with your role anyways.

 

 

Samus' posts are super weird. Is there some sort of category of player where they win if they get lynched?

Jester

 

But this role doesn't exist in the Greater Mafia wiki so I guess not present in this game.

Jester better not be a role. The most trolley role there is. 

@KevinH just to be sure there's a place for this discussion at all. Can a Reloader reload 1 shot Vig and then Vig kill his target, during the same night?

I have been given permission to post my results.  That being said I am still deciding if I want to.  Would it help Werewolves or Town more?  Who would I rather see win? Werewolves may have taken down my teammates, Town will eventually likely be my killers by lynch tomorrow if I'm not killed tonight, and TW who personally killed my game by his findings, is he really a town cop or a werewolf cop.  Do I want to help a lot more town, or a few werewolves?  All questions

 

That being said, I'll admit I'm a tracker.

 

What I will give is my N1 action since it doesn't matter.

 

I tracked Imran who visited TW N1.  TW wound up dead, but knew it wasn't Imran since scum killed him.  I was tempted to RC as town tracker, to pin it on him, but knew he'd come up town and would that mean extra attention would be put on me?  Would it also tempt the other factions to target me fearbing my role?  That being said, it wasn't needed, as Imran ended up lynched without my help.  

 

I'll also add that Rafay is either immune to Scum killings, he's bulletproof, or I was blocked last night.  As he should of been killed by me, but kill didn't happen.  

@KevinH just to be sure there's a place for this discussion at all. Can a Reloader reload 1 shot Vig and then Vig kill his target, during the same night?

 

Yes.

 

Per Natural Action Resolution, the reload is resolved first and then the vig shot.

This is all the more reason to keep day phases going.

 

Samus is sketchy as all hell. First he claims Nurse, now claiming town Vig. Town Vig is not that important of a role tbh, and to claim nurse to steer possible scum/werewolves/SK away from lynching him is no way beneficial to town as now the 3 bad faction are likely to go after someone else, putting the likes of more important town roles in jeopardy. Not including the fact that he supposedly already used his ability, was out of shots, and yet still looked to fake RC to save a used up role that he couldn't reuse unless he actually came forward with his real one. Yet, he didn't come forward when he was out of shots D3 with his real role, he didn't come out D3 saying he killed Rafay, and now suddenly he has. You know what's easy to claim.....a werewolf claiming town Vig saying he killed MK. Whose going to call him out? If him and his other werewolves killed MK, it's not like scum or SK would come out and say, no he didn't. Let alone, the mere fact a Vig would use their ability N2, with little to go on besides a wagon on Imran, and risk killing a town member, for which he even admits MK was not anymore suspicious then the 6 other people on the wagon. A vig, picking 1 out of 7 possible people N2 to kill and risk killing off a good town member? Who does that. I bet he's not even a Vig at all, just a 1 shot type Werewolf character.

 

​Did he really roleclaim Nurse after? Wow..

 

​He would've already known there is a re-loader so he could say that's why but still.. it's all very odd. Combined with the risks of reloading Samus you laid out, it's an very compelling case for not relading him.

 

​A little wary of taken advice from scum but it seems like good, logical analysis to me.

 

 

Military - Delta Officers 1,102 posts Resources: Nation ID:593353 Souls Baptized:∞ Squadron:Alpha Rhizo's analysis of TW and Samus is bang on, I think. The only thing I have to add is that I still don't want to lynch Rhizo today. Rafay first, imo. If we wait to leave Rafay til tomorrow, we risk three kills tonight instead of two. We need as many people alive as possible. So my vote remains on Rafay, but Rhizo is dead tomorrow. To be make sure this is not overlooked: imo AbT PLEASE DO NOT RELOAD SAMUS TONIGHT.

 

​Lynching Rhizo today eh? Hmm.. that's an interesting idea. He is the only one we absolutely know for sure is scum.. but you do bring up a good point that Rafay could get more kills in. And Rafay not posting isn't helping his case.

 

​I guess lynching Rafay first is the better thing. I agree. 

 

Rafay is 100% the person that needs to die today. We are far more certain that only 1 serial killer exists than we are that only 1 more mafia member exists. Lynching Rafay basically guarantees that there are only two kills at night tonight (mafia and werewolf) assuming that ABT does not reload Samus.

 

I have been given permission to post my results.  That being said I am still deciding if I want to.  Would it help Werewolves or Town more?  Who would I rather see win? Werewolves may have taken down my teammates, Town will eventually likely be my killers by lynch tomorrow if I'm not killed tonight, and TW who personally killed my game by his findings, is he really a town cop or a werewolf cop.  Do I want to help a lot more town, or a few werewolves?  All questions

 

That being said, I'll admit I'm a tracker.

 

What I will give is my N1 action since it doesn't matter.

 

I tracked Imran who visited TW N1.  TW wound up dead, but knew it wasn't Imran since scum killed him.  I was tempted to RC as town tracker, to pin it on him, but knew he'd come up town and would that mean extra attention would be put on me?  Would it also tempt the other factions to target me fearbing my role?  That being said, it wasn't needed, as Imran ended up lynched without my help.  

 

I'll also add that Rafay is either immune to Scum killings, he's bulletproof, or I was blocked last night.  As he should of been killed by me, but kill didn't happen.  

Firstly, thank you for confirming for everyone that my investigation of you was indeed accurate. Rhizo should be the lynch candidate tomorrow without question unless ABT decides to trust Samus and let him shoot him tonight instead.

 

Secondly, the last line of this post basically confirms what I have thought all along and have stated twice previously. I believe that when Rafay is lynched we will see that he has a 2-shot bulletproof multiplier. I assumed that he was either immune to night kills from one of the factions or that he was 2-shot bulletproof. It makes way more sense to me that he is 2-shot bulletproof than only being immune to kills from one of the other two scum factions.

 

 

@KevinH just to be sure there's a place for this discussion at all. Can a Reloader reload 1 shot Vig and then Vig kill his target, during the same night?

 

Yes.

 

Per Natural Action Resolution, the reload is resolved first and then the vig shot.

 

This is what I assumed so if ABT wants to trust Samus then Rhizo should be able to be killed tonight too.

 

 

As for the discussion about Samus as a possible werewolf PGO trying to lure ABT in:

 

I can personally say with 100% certainty that that is NOT the case. If Samus was a PGO, SBG (me) would have definitely died on night 2 when we investigated Samus. The fact that I didn't die makes it a certainty that Samus cannot be a PGO (werewolf or otherwise).

 

Now, you might question whether or not I am definitely the Town Cop and actually visited Samus on night 2.

 

Consider the roles that have already been revealed to us in this game:

 

Town Cop of All Trades (CoD) - From the mafia wiki: "Cop-of-all-Trades (One-shot Cop, One-shot Seer, One-shot FBI Agent, One-shot Conspiracy Theorist, One-shot Private Investigator)". CoD had one shot each to identify a werewolf (Seer), a mafia (Cop), and a serial killer (FBI Agent). This role was likely added to reduce the potential devastation to the town of losing one of the other existing cop roles early in the game with so many scum present.

Town Seer (Imran) - From the mafia wiki: "Seer may simply be another name for Cop, or it may be a Faction Cop (see Derivations) who can only detect Werewolves but not Mafia." Imran's investigative role was specialized and could ONLY identify werewolves.

 

Now, with the above two roles present, does it not make sense that a Normal Town Cop (me) who could only detect the opposite faction from the Seer (the mafia) would also exist in the game? And if you believe that this is indeed true, don't you think that someone would have already counterclaimed me to discredit me if I was lying about my role for some reason? And if you still think that I'm lying, doesn't the fact that Rhizo has already confirmed my guilty result on him carry some weight for you?

 

My point is: if you were not convinced previously that I am a normal TOWN Cop and not a werewolf in some ploy with Samus, consider the evidence I have presented here and you should see that it is far more likely that I am indeed what I am (a normal TOWN Cop). And if you can actually accept that as true, you know that I am not running some werewolf ploy with Samus, I did indeed investigate him on night 2, found him not guilty, and now can say with certainty that he cannot be a PGO (werewolf or town) since it means that I would have died on night 2.

 

This is why I believe that Samus is more likely than not town even though my investigation result on him would not guarantee that he isn't a werewolf. If he was a werewolf, I don't see what he gains from asking for a reload from ABT, especially now that all eyes are on him for it and it would mean his certain death either tomorrow or the next day if he was found to be lying again.

I have been given permission to post my results.  That being said I am still deciding if I want to.  Would it help Werewolves or Town more?  Who would I rather see win? Werewolves may have taken down my teammates, Town will eventually likely be my killers by lynch tomorrow if I'm not killed tonight, and TW who personally killed my game by his findings, is he really a town cop or a werewolf cop.  Do I want to help a lot more town, or a few werewolves?  All questions

 

That being said, I'll admit I'm a tracker.

 

What I will give is my N1 action since it doesn't matter.

 

I tracked Imran who visited TW N1.  TW wound up dead, but knew it wasn't Imran since scum killed him.  I was tempted to RC as town tracker, to pin it on him, but knew he'd come up town and would that mean extra attention would be put on me?  Would it also tempt the other factions to target me fearbing my role?  That being said, it wasn't needed, as Imran ended up lynched without my help.  

 

I'll also add that Rafay is either immune to Scum killings, he's bulletproof, or I was blocked last night.  As he should of been killed by me, but kill didn't happen.  

 

i have the answer to your question,

help werewolves.

I wasn't questioning if you were town tw. However it's samus play choices that have landed him into the spotlight. Enough for us to wonder.

@@KevinH Can we get the entire werewolf faction to get disqualified if another dead member of their faction talks again here? 

 

From a game design point of view, I feel that TW's claim is very plausible that there are so many cops (I don't remember who made the argument that there were too many cops and that there was a possibility that TW was a scum cop of some sort), given the fact that all cops have limited powers due to multiple factions existing. Since nobody has tried to counterclaim TW's claim, I'm pretty inclined to believe that TW is indeed town. The more pressing question at this moment however is whether Samus is 1) actually a Vig and 2) actually part of town. I completely understand the idea of him claiming an unimportant role to cover his ass because he's afraid of being killed at night. However it is absolutely deserved that people second guess his words and intentions the moment he reveals his 'actual' role, I don't know whether Samus actually thought that town would immediately believe his second claim, but it should have crossed his mind that there is a possibility that town doesn't react well to people lying, whatever the reasons.

 

That being said reacting to Rhizo's post above: he doesn't have an action for N2 if I read that correctly. Is that because he's leaving information out, is it because he only has powers on odd nights (which I find unlikely but it's a possibility) or is it possible that Rhizo was blocked on that night for some reason? If the 3rd option is true, and Rhizo was picked by the mafia team to make the kill, it lines up with Samus' story that he killed MK during N2, resulting in 3 kills (1 werewolf kill, 1 SK kill and 1 Vig kill, mafia kill gets blocked). I don't know whether Rhizo wants to provide us that information, or at least clarify his post, but it's something that has caught my eye and could potentially clear Samus as town as Rhizo is the last remanning mafia member, so he's probably not covering for Samus

I expected Rhizo to be a tracker...now when we know (most probably) that he's not a roleblocker I can share my idea.

 

We need 3 people to visit Samus at night: Me, Jazzy and Robert.

 

1. If we all die, the only explanation is that Samus is a Werewolf PGO and that means that TW is also a scum. We win the game.

2. If at least one of us survives (Rhizo and Werewolves can still target two of us and kill them) that means Samus is not a PGO.

         If Samus is not PGO, than the only plausible explanation is that he's indeed a Vigilante (he wouldn't ask for a reload in any other scenario as it would not be reasonable). 

         If Samus is Vigilante than at the same time he's town. Vig is a town alignment and KevinH mentioned that he's not swapping alignments - so the only way for Vig to be a scum is when it's mentioned on the Greater Idea Mafia list. And as we see there it's indeed mentioned, but as a possible role for Mafia and not for Werewolves.

 

Therefore by sending 3 people we either win the game or (which is most probable) confirm Samus as a town.

 

@Robert: Now important question. Can you tell what happens when Gladiator targets Samus and Rhizo? Assuming one of his targets (Rhizo) dies at night is his power still active (and we can vote only on Samus) or it does not execute since one of his targets died? We need to know what happens in this scenario.

I expected Rhizo to be a tracker...now when we know (most probably) that he's not a roleblocker I can share my idea.

 

We need 3 people to visit Samus at night: Me, Jazzy and Robert.

 

1. If we all die, the only explanation is that Samus is a Werewolf PGO and that means that TW is also a scum. We win the game.

2. If at least one of us survives (Rhizo and Werewolves can still target two of us and kill them) that means Samus is not a PGO.

         If Samus is not PGO, than the only plausible explanation is that he's indeed a Vigilante (he wouldn't ask for a reload in any other scenario as it would not be reasonable). 

         If Samus is Vigilante than at the same time he's town. Vig is a town alignment and KevinH mentioned that he's not swapping alignments - so the only way for Vig to be a scum is when it's mentioned on the Greater Idea Mafia list. And as we see there it's indeed mentioned, but as a possible role for Mafia and not for Werewolves.

 

Therefore by sending 3 people we either win the game or (which is most probable) confirm Samus as a town.

 

@Robert: Now important question. Can you tell what happens when Gladiator targets Samus and Rhizo? Assuming one of his targets (Rhizo) dies at night is his power still active (and we can vote only on Samus) or it does not execute since one of his targets died? We need to know what happens in this scenario.

You reloaded Robert last night correct, ABT?

 

If so, and if Robert targets Samus and Rhizo, I'm inclined to believe that his action only "works" if both Samus and Rhizo survive the night: "One-shot Gladiator (Target two players at night; if both alive at daybreak, they are the only two lynch candidates that day)".

 

I read that description to say that the action only works if both targets are alive at daybreak. We should definitely get clarification from Kevin but that's how I read it.

 

I have varying information from N2 and N3. My results were one I got No result(N2), and the other I got did not target anyone(N3). I don't know if both mean same thing or the "no result" was because I was blocked or target was immune. This was only for my Tracker action, as I wasn't the one who killed anyone N1 or N2, and both those kills were successful. The only time I personally tried to kill someone was last night on Rafay and as I stated he was either immuned to scum kill or bulletproof

I expected Rhizo to be a tracker...now when we know (most probably) that he's not a roleblocker I can share my idea.

 

We need 3 people to visit Samus at night: Me, Jazzy and Robert.

 

1. If we all die, the only explanation is that Samus is a Werewolf PGO and that means that TW is also a scum. We win the game.

2. If at least one of us survives (Rhizo and Werewolves can still target two of us and kill them) that means Samus is not a PGO.

If Samus is not PGO, than the only plausible explanation is that he's indeed a Vigilante (he wouldn't ask for a reload in any other scenario as it would not be reasonable).

If Samus is Vigilante than at the same time he's town. Vig is a town alignment and KevinH mentioned that he's not swapping alignments - so the only way for Vig to be a scum is when it's mentioned on the Greater Idea Mafia list. And as we see there it's indeed mentioned, but as a possible role for Mafia and not for Werewolves.

 

Therefore by sending 3 people we either win the game or (which is most probable) confirm Samus as a town.

 

@Robert: Now important question. Can you tell what happens when Gladiator targets Samus and Rhizo? Assuming one of his targets (Rhizo) dies at night is his power still active (and we can vote only on Samus) or it does not execute since one of his targets died? We need to know what happens in this scenario.

Why could it not be plausable? He could very well ask you to reload him and he not have a role that needs reloaded at all, but is a member of the Werewolves and then kill me with werewolves kill they get per night. This makes you believe he in fact killed me due to being reloaded, and helps a possible fake narrative when really he just used Werewolves night kill to kill me and pass it off as a Vig kill.

Firstly, If he was pretending to be a Vig, I think he'd thought it out and have done it in a far more clear manner than this mess that happened. Secondly making a false claim is always risky...in case true Vig shows up (probability there are two identical roles is rather low, I think). Thirdly, he'll only get confirmed if there are 3 kills at night.

 

If he's a Vig and delivers a kill, but other scum gets blocked and there are only two kills, then "Sorry, but we have no way of confirming that this kill was indeed yours".

 

 

You reloaded Robert last night correct, ABT?

 

Yes, I did.

 

We need Jazzy to show up and confirm he'll indeed visit Samus at night.

And one more thing that came up to my mind. Rhizo admitted he was somehow blocked - which means that roleblocker is in play. I don't think town roleblocker would haphazardly block random people (which would be extremely stupid, for instance hitting his own cop). That indicates we might have a werewolf roleblocker in play, which would mean that PGO scenario is not happening here.

I would take any information from scum, even the fact that they attacked Rafay last night, with an enormous pinch of salt. Rhizo may have his own reasons for lying about that. I can't currently see any, but it's possible. In which case, we can't surmise anything about werewolf roleblockers with any kind of certainty.