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[KevinH]

No way.

Well, since I am town, and I believe Jazzy is the cop, and Lachiton has come back town, that leaves only MsShawdi as the last scum.

Vote: MsShawdi

 

I'll also point out that Lachiton could be a Godfather, but MsShawdi is the best bet to lynch a scum.

[MsShawdi]

Look at that, you did exactly what I knew you would do.

I will Role Claim then, I am a vanilla townie. The only "power" I have is in voting.

I 100% promise that lynching me is the wrong move here.

[Lachiton]

Hold on guys. Dont vote on assumptions yet. I was hoping Jazzy would investigate the other two and not me. This happened I think because Rafay didnt count my vote as I forgot to bold it ( well that should have been pointed out instead and my name shouldn't have been in the Not voting category). Anyways today is LyLo, so we cant mislynch. 

So before starting off lynch wagons let's get to know what everybody think about the multiple kills that happened on N2 and why we had no kill on N3.

 

Why Jazzy still alive after he helped lynch Robert on D2? Even though he didnt full claim it was almost certain that he was town and he could have been cop/tracker (remember iSoc tried to get the answer following day by asking did he see Robert doing the kill)

Bear that in mind we cant afford mislynch so dont be in a rush to vote. 

[KevinH]

Unvote.

 

I'm willing to consider other options.

[Jazzy95]

So... I'm starting to form an idea. Will have to think about it and will share more thoughts on it later today.

 

Why Jazzy still alive after he helped lynch Robert on D2?

  

Well Brewers started train. And without a role claim, town really was just trusting me lol. Mafia could have honestly chucked my lynching of Robert to luck, thinking I really did just want revenge for last game and capitalized on Brewers' joke vote.

[Lord MK]

Lol, this one is getting interesting.

I bet that Kevin will win this one.
Whichever side he's on.

[Lachiton]

So... I'm starting to form an idea. Will have to think about it and will share more thoughts on it later today.

 

 

 

Why Jazzy still alive after he helped lynch Robert on D2?

  

Well Brewers started train. And without a role claim, town really was just trusting me lol. Mafia could have honestly chucked my lynching of Robert to luck, thinking I really did just want revenge for last game and capitalized on Brewers' joke vote.

Risky but possible. Let's say they targeted brewers instead and I am also assuming scum targeted brewers instead. But wouldn't that have been safe if you were blocked at least (we now know that iSoc was scum RB) on N2. Incidentally you were role blocked on N3 and we had no kill that night. Some valid questions we need to introspect. Once we form an idea about all this, I think it will help us catch the last scum.

I have some ideas as well which I will share later. First I need to go through the thread to read everyone's posts and how they interacted with each other.

[Lachiton]

No ideas yet from anyone? We have 1.5 days before deadline and we need to figure out our last scum.

[KevinH]

It could be anyone.  Vote analysis is confusing to me.

[Lord MK]

It could be anyone. Vote analysis is confusing to me.

Lol.
Come to think of it, Kevin never does it.
Rhizo is the default wall maker.

[KevinH]

KevinH
Jazzy95
Lachiton
MsShawdi
 
With 4 alive, it takes 3 to Lynch. Deadline is 23 August 17:00 pm CN Time

Let's summarize.

Day 1
No Lynch (7): KevinH, MsShawdi, Colonel MedVed, Lachiton, Lord MK, Jazzy95, Wolfpacks

Night 1
Lord MK, a Vanilla Townie was killed in the night.

Day 2
Jazzy votes Robert and says to trust him
Robert2424 (5): brewsersalliance, Jazzy95, Lachiton, KevinH, MsShawdi
Robert2424, a Mafia Goon has been lynched on Day 2

Night 2
brewsersalliance, a 3-Shot Town Vigilante was killed during the Night.
Colonel MedVed, a Vanilla Townie was killed during the Night.

Day 3
Jazzy claims Wolfpacks investigated as town
iSocialism (3): KevinH, Jazzy95, MsShawdi
Not voting: Wolfpacks, iSocialism, Lachiton
Nobody was lynched

Night 3
No kills

Day 4
Jazzy claims to have been blocked
iSocialism (4): KevinH, MsShawdi, Jazzy95, Wolfpacks
Not voting: Lachiton, iSocialism
iSocialism, Mafia Roleblocker has been lynched

Night 4
Wolfpacks, Vanilla Townie was killed in the Night.

Day 5
Jazzy claims to have investigated Lachiton and got town.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

So where does that leave us in terms of votes?
KevinH - On the lynch of both Robert and iSocialism
Jazzy95 - On the lynch of both Robert and iSocialism
MsShawdi - On the lynch of both Robert and iSocialism
Lachiton - On the lynch of Robert, but saved iSocialism Day 3; on the lynch of iSocialism Day 4

Working theory #1: Lachiton is a godfather that kept iSocialism alive Day 3, but decided get town cred by joining the lynch on Day 4.

[KevinH]

Why Jazzy still alive after he helped lynch Robert on D2?

 

Very good question.

Working Theory #2:

Jazzy the supposed cop is really scum.
He only hinted at things until there was no cop counter-claim.
He has since claimed Wolfpacks as townie (now dead) role-block (i-Socialism was roleblocker), and Lachiton as townie.
These could be manufactured results by the scum being very clever.

[KevinH]

I 100% promise that lynching me is the wrong move here.

 

Working Theory #3:

Jazzy really is the cop.
Lachiton is not a godfather and is confirmed town by the cop.
MsShawdi must be scum.

[Lachiton]

Ok so some possible theories suggested by Kevin. I know I am town and I going to provide you additional proof of that shortly.

I am convinced Jazzy is town cop, there's no doubt about that. So let's cut down to the chase and let me tell you what I know and figured out.

I am not VT but a Town Doctor. I am happy to have survived this long and most importantly helped Jazzy survive. Good news is I was let know whether I was successful in protecting my target.

Let's summarize my night actions

N1 - Protected Kevin. Nothing else to note as Kevin was not targeted that night.

N2 - Protected Jazzy after Robert's lynch and was successful. We had 2 other kills that night. My theory is mafia tried to kill Jazzy but failed because of me. That seems more likely as iSoc didnt try to RB Jazzy as they were killing him anyways. Medved was probably killed by brewers for staying out of Robert's lynch and brewers was killed by the last remaining scum.

N3 - Again protected Jazzy and was successful again. We had no kills that night and Jazzy was RBed by iSoc.
N4 - Protected Jazzy but WP was targeted instead.

So taking all the above into account, the last remaining scum can either be the lone mafia member with extra kill ability or SK. I am leaning more towards SK seeing the voting pattern of both Kevin and Shawdi. Aside from Shawdi being a little hesitant in voting for Robert initially, but that can be because of vagueness in Jazzy's claim, there's little to separate both of them. I already knew about the extra kill that didnt went through and that is why I put that concern out but I guess iSoc tried to downplay that. When Jazzy was blocked the following night, I told about my suspicions of a scum JOAT (you guys can check out my posts previous day).

Between Kevin and Shawdi, one is town and the other mafia/SK. If there's a mafia, he/she cant be godfather for sure, unless someone brings forth a PR which can act as godfather and have an extra kill.

 

So here it is what I propose -

We dont lynch on this day. Tomorrow after the night kill, there will be 2 town and 1 scum and we will be still in LYLO.

Jazzy visits Shawdi to eliminate the suspicion of presence of mafia. IF she turns out town, she is definitely town. More I think, more I believe Kevin is SK so investigating him will not help here.

I have your back Jazzy so you cant be killed. I am most certainly dying so dont miss your last chance of making sure town gets to lynch the last scum tomorrow.

 

Do you agree with the plan @Jazzy?

[KevinH]

Plausible, but I'm not necessarily convinced.

 

For starters, taking credit for "saving" Jazzy when 1 or more other townies got killed, and telling him you have his back.

It feels like a game of Survivor where you might be trying to Outwit, Outlast, and Outplay.

 

"unless someone brings forth a PR which can act as godfather and have an extra kill."

 

How about "Lachiton: You are a Mafia Godfather with an extra kill"?

 

The no-lynch idea is sound, though.

 

Vote: No Lynch

[Lachiton]

Godfather with an extra kill? Lol talk about overkill.

 

Also godfather has been a recurring theme for you ever since WP was found not guilty. Now you're even reaching with Godfather with extra kill in a 10 player game, with scum RB also present? It's funny btw when you're not convinced that I am doctor but seem to agree about the extra kill that didnt go through.
 

For starters,taking credit for "saving" Jazzy when 1 or more other townies got killed, and telling him you

Huh?? A doctor can save only 1 townie so if there's multiple targets are up for kill, how am I supposed to save all of them? And I had to save the only PR townie I knew about. Also you're forgetting there was no kill on N3 because of me. So why shouldn't I state the fact and get credit where it is due?

 

It feels like a game of Survivor where you might be trying to Outwit, Outlast, and Outplay.

Right back at ya. That is why I feel you're the last remaining scum and with the way mafia were lynched, most probably a SK. SK is a much more plausible role than a mafia godfather with an extra kill IMO.

[Jazzy95]

I do think Kevin feels like last scum. We'll know for sure tomorrow

 

Vote: No lynch

[Rafay]

No one is lynched. 

 

It is now Night 5.

 

Night Actions to me by 24 Aug 14:00 pm CN time.

[Rafay]

MsShawdi, a Vanilla Towbie has been killed in the night.

 

It is now Day 6. 

 

Vote Count:

 

KevinH:

Jazzy95

Lachiton:

 

Not Voting: KevinH, Lachiton, Jazzy95

 

No Lynch:

 

Deadline is 26 Aug 14:00pm CN time. With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

[MsShawdi]

Well shit. At least now y'all know it wasn't me! Good luck y'all!