Players:

 

1. brewersalliance (Mafia Goon) was shot by the 6th Gunbearer Wolfpacks, on D9

2. SeaBeeGipson (Mafia Goon) was shot by the 3rd Gunbearer Robert2424, on D5

3. Robert2424 (Vanilla Town) 3rd Gunbearer, died on D6

4. Lachiton (Vanilla Town) survived

5. The Warrior (Mafia Goon) was shot by the 3rd Gunbearer Robert2424, on D4

6. Wolfpacks (Vanilla Town) 6th Gunbearer

7. Lord MK (Mafia Goon) was shot by the 1st Gunbearer KevinH, on D1

8. KevinH (Vanilla Town) 1st Gunbearer, died on D2

9. Rafay (Vanilla Town) 4th Gunbearer, died on D7

10. Sister Midnight (Vanilla Town) 5th Gunbearer, died on D8

11. Velocity (Vanilla Town) 2nd Gunbearer, died on D3

 

Setup:

 

• Before the game starts, mafia must elect a townie to be the gunbearer. That player has until deadline runs out to shoot another player.
• The town discuss amongst themselves, and the gunbearer picks someone to target by posting shoot.
• If their target is mafia, the target dies and the gunbearer keeps the gun. 
• If their target is town, the gunbearer dies and the target becomes the new gunbearer.
• If the gunbearer does not shoot by deadline, they die and the mafia are given 48 hours to pick a new gunbearer. 

 

This is an open setup, all information can be accessed here: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Popcorn_Mafia

 

Rules:

 

• This game is a nightless game, as soon as the gun bearer votes; the action is processed and the next day is started
• You play to win, game throwing will not be tolerated.
• You are not allowed to discuss this game outside of the game thread unless I have given you means to (a quicktopic) or the game is over.
• Offensive comments, Slandering, or slurs will not be tolerated. One warning will be issued for the first offense, and the next offense gets you forced-replaced
• All dead players can no longer participate in the game.
• Do not quote any private communications in this thread, which includes role pms. You may paraphrase. 
• Do not use cryptography, invisible text, tiny text, or the like.
• Breaking one of these rules may, at my discretion, result in a modkill. If you are modkilled, you will become a Neutral Survivor, and thus automatically lose. Modkilling may or may not end the game day.
• Do not edit or delete your posts in this thread. If there is a problem with a post, such as incorrect formatting, ask me to fix it for you.
• You must remain active to be in this game. If you do not post within a 72 hour period you may be force-replaced.
• Rules may be added or subject to change.

Lachiton:  posts right away about the role PM he got, noting that it says his power is in his vote, when there is actually no formal voting.  Somewhat active in dissecting/analyzing what people are saying.

 

Town Reason:  pretty much confirming he is town, and with no night kills, it eliminates one less suspect by telling the entire game what role PM he got.  Medved confirming the role pm was sent makes it almost certain he is town.  

 

Scum Reason:  to convince the town that he is town, as the risk for a potential scum to actually do what he did would greatly outweigh the costs, so he would become virtually confirmed in everyones eyes.  Only way this is possible to be true with medved's follow up is if medved accidentally sent scum lachiton the town pm instead of the scum pm.

 

TW:  Has been the second most active player this game.  Has been posting several times that town needs to be active in this game.  TW suggested using Orval Redinbocker (spelling?) as how kevin chooses who to make his second shot.  states that the town should vote and the gunbearer should shoot for whoever the town votes for.  Doesnt place vote on SBG but threatens it.

 

Town reason:  being active and getting all players to discuss is the best way to fish out who is scum, as we have no power roles.  If people are quiet we have nothing to go on.  Suggested that stock since its a popcorn game it would be funny, plus with the vast majority of players not doing much to contribute, random was all kevin had to go on.  stating the gun bearer should shoot who the town votes for would help town analyze wagons, considering if they shot someone randomly there would be almost nothing to gain from the voting and nothing would be learned.  Threatening to vote for SBG prevented the wagon from growing/others dogpiling onto SBG on the chance SBG is town

 

Scum Reason:  Points out that scum like to hide at the bottom or middle of the post counts, so making sure he is at the top of the post count could work in his favor.  If he convinces the town that scum are in the middle and he is not in the middle then he might skirt by suspicion.  Telling players to be active could give the appearance that he is town, as a scum would prefer less active town, so it could be a deception.  random shooting in this format will always benifit scum, as with more town players, the probability will always be higher to shoot town, and from a statistical standpoint, using a random stock to do the killing would lead to more scum wins than town wins.  Shooting whoever has the most votes could let the scum have complete influence over who gets shot.  not actually voting for sbg might take suspicion off him if SBG is shot and ends up being town

 

 

Rafay: not much substance to go on, throws around some accusations and then after being called scum by MK does not throw an accusation back

 

Town reason:  Thats what rafay does in pretty much every game.  throws around accusations without any reason, regardless of his alignment.  so if he was town it stands to reason he would do that here.  while he usually accuses anyone calling him scum of being scum, he might not have this game when MK did because as he stated voting is pointless

 

Scum reason:  throwing around accusations to possible influence who gets shot.  when MK called him out, rafay did not want to call out MK as well because MK was his scum partner, and rafay did not want to put any suspicion on MK.

 

Me:  most active poster in the game.  advocates for voting early and again today, has theory that MK was scum for his vote on rafay on d1, and votes for MK.  votes for SBG on d3 and WP, posts who I think the top suspects are, then later posts a breakdown for each of those suspects.  Then makes this post here analyzing the other players.

 

Town Reason:  I am always the most active player in every game, as I actively want to hunt and find scum.  with no power roles, I feel that the only way we have a chance to find scum and shift the odds in our favor is by wagon and post analysis, so voting is something I want and something that the games played on mafia scum used when town won.  believed Mk was scum for trying to get rafay shot, since lets be honest rafay has a hard on for tw and if rafay is town MK could have gotten kevin and rafay killed (if tw is also town).  Made votes today on inactives to wake them up as an active town is the only way we win.  Makes a breakdown of suspects to help velocity chose who to shoot, and makes this post to help analyze all other players not mentioned before 

 

Scum Reason:  I am always the top poster so if out of no where I stopped being as active as I am, I would be the first person killed, and as scum I would not want that.  The MK theory would be an attempt at bussing from MK on D1 and to earn townie points, since if I was scum I would know MK was also scum and could have used that to look good.  Voting could be potentially influenced by the scum team to control who the gunbearer shoots, as I would not want to leave it up for chance.  voted on the inactive to potentially start a wagon and influence the shot, as well as made these posts to help push velocity to shoot a townie instead of scum

Suspicion Count

 

 

"I'm in a glass case of emotion!"

- Ron Burgundy 

 

 

brewersalliance (0):

SeaBeeGipson (1): Wolfpacks

Robert2424 (0):

Lachiton (0): 

The Warrior (0): 

Wolfpacks (1): SeaBeeGipson

Rafay (0):

Sister Midnight (0): 

Velocity (0): 

 

 

Not Voting: Lachiton, brewersalliance, The Warrior, Rafay, Sister Midnight, Robert2424, Velocity

 

Deadline is October 15th, 9:00AM CN for Velocity to Shoot

I'm actually surprised you included yourself brewers.

Deadline is in less than 48 hours. We need to decide what we think the best course of action is. Wolfpacks and SBG both have 1 “vote” currently. What are your thoughts at this point Velocity?

UNVOTE

 

SBGs vote is only a like for like vote, there are bigger fish to fry then i

its ultimately up to velocity. 

The point is to help Velocity in his decision to shoot, which we as a town should have been doing. Doesn't matter whether he chooses our candidate to shoot or not.

As for me, I am going to go out on a limb and place my vote whom I am getting more and more suspicious of.

 

Vote : Robert

He is 2nd in terms of activity, yet didnt try once to direct town in any direction. He has rarely provided insight on anyone so far, apart from his feeble attempt on Rafay. In my view he is trying to avoid getting into voting and taking a stand, which is more often than not scum tell. 

If he is shot, best case we get a scum and worst case we handover the gun to a very active townie.

its ultimately up to velocity. 

I am a little bit concerned by this as well, Robert. I know that we don’t have anything concrete to go off of but this is at least the second post that has sounded like you aren’t concerned with the gunbearer hitting town. Even though the target won’t die if they are Town, the gunbearer will. That means that we will still lose a townie which puts us one misfire closer to losing..

 

Vote: Robert

 

This post and the one made earlier about it not mattering if the gunbearer shoots town seem off to me.

Suspicion Count

 

 

“I’m about to do to you what Limp Bizkit did to music in the late ’90s.”

- Deadpool

 

 

brewersalliance (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Robert2424 (2): Lachiton, The Warrior

Lachiton (0): 

The Warrior (0): 

Wolfpacks (1): SeaBeeGipson

Rafay (0):

Sister Midnight (0): 

Velocity (0): 

 

 

Not Voting: brewersalliance, Wolfpacks, Rafay, Sister Midnight, Robert2424, Velocity

 

Deadline is October 15th, 9:00AM CN for Velocity to Shoot

 

 

"This post and the one made earlier about it not mattering if the gunbearer shoots town seem off to me."

 

And MK said that his top suspicion was Robert, and that was his last suspicion, but he never gave any reason why, perhaps they were trying to get MK almost confirmed as town and Robert is a scum? It seems as if he is the best bet... any thoughts from anyone else?

"This post and the one made earlier about it not mattering if the gunbearer shoots town seem off to me."

 

And MK said that his top suspicion was Robert, and that was his last suspicion, but he never gave any reason why, perhaps they were trying to get MK almost confirmed as town and Robert is a scum? It seems as if he is the best bet... any thoughts from anyone else?

I didn’t think of that, but it seems posdible. It also feels like his last remark that it is up to Velocity May have been an attempt to discourage discussion and voting. I realize it could be a simple observation, but it doesn’t encourage people to try and help/influence hi, which is the only way we can win.

 

Not strong evidence, but atm Robert looks the most scummy out of anyone. VOTE:ROBERT,

 

"This post and the one made earlier about it not mattering if the gunbearer shoots town seem off to me."

 

And MK said that his top suspicion was Robert, and that was his last suspicion, but he never gave any reason why, perhaps they were trying to get MK almost confirmed as town and Robert is a scum? It seems as if he is the best bet... any thoughts from anyone else?

I didn’t think of that, but it seems posdible. It also feels like his last remark that it is up to Velocity May have been an attempt to discourage discussion and voting. I realize it could be a simple observation, but it doesn’t encourage people to try and help/influence hi, which is the only way we can win.

 

Not strong evidence, but atm Robert looks the most scummy out of anyone. VOTE:ROBERT,

In this game it's impossible to have strong evidence, so people's posts are all we have to go off right now, and now that I'm sober and had time to read thru the last two days, It feels like you guys might be onto something. I also find it shocking that Robert, one of our most active players has not showed up once since the votes started adding up on him. Granted he could just be busy, as it does happen to the best of us...

 

So

 

Vote Robert

Suspicion Count

 

 

“Well, I'm not even going to attempt that. But I did take eighth grade Spanish, so donde esta la biblioteca? Which literally translates to: I don't bargain, pumpkin-fucker.”

- Deadpool

 

 

brewersalliance (0):

SeaBeeGipson (0):

Robert2424 (4): Lachiton, The Warrior, Sister Midnight, brewersalliance

Lachiton (0): 

The Warrior (0): 

Wolfpacks (1): SeaBeeGipson

Rafay (0):

Sister Midnight (0): 

Velocity (0): 

 

 

Not Voting: Wolfpacks, Rafay, Robert2424, Velocity

 

Deadline is October 15th, 9:00AM CN for Velocity to Shoot

If I die from this, everybody keep your eyes on SM and SBG, I just have a feeling..... and nobody gets my money. Sorry Robert, nothing personal bub...

 

 

Decision: shoot Robert2424

KevinH's death was a big surprise to Planet Bob, he had become famous in that little amount of time for his bravery (and great luck!). His funeral was held on national television, Velocity was one of many watching the broadcast. After the broadcast concluded, Velocity decided to continue what the late and great KevinH did. He wanted to continue to rid the world of all evil, in hopes to be just like Kevin.

 

Velocity went to his local store, and purchased a firearm. He was also able to get his hands on a brand new moped as well! Velocity hoped on his moped, to begin his journey... But it didn't seem he would come to far. As Velocity was turning out of the store's parking lot onto the road, he forgot to look both ways and was pummeled by an oncoming dump truck. He sadly passed away while in the ambulance heading to the hospital.    

 

Velocity was killed on Day 3

 

 

Day 4 Begins!

 

 

Robert2424 is the new Gunbearer, and is confirmed as Innocent.

 

 

Deadline: October 22nd, 9:00AM CN

Let's do this

RIP. Now I have the power. You guys choose wrong!

At least I have more to look at. I have a wagon against me we can analyze. Witch was formed in a hurry on last day, and obviously very flawed.

Lach, tw, sm, and brewers.

 

Brewers is active as usual and I like his new style with the red and green.

 

Sister midnight. She wanted me shot. (I'm hurt sm). Jumping in with the crowd and she was on Kevin's short list as well.

 

Tw, let's face it, he has so much chrisma it's hard to Lynch him in a normal game. He's always active and always provides criticism.

 

Lach, well, not very active mafia wise, at least compared to me, brewers, and tw. Started wagon against me.

 

Rafay probably would of voted for me if he was active, course inactivity is his style. Not thought or reasoning.

 

Wolfpacks. needs more activity.

 

Seabee, hard to say either way.

 

Its likely scum was on my wagon. It's also likely one stayed off. Just a theroy.

 

 

At least I have more to look at. I have a wagon against me we can analyze. Witch was formed in a hurry on last day, and obviously very flawed.

 

 

and if we were voting since d1, a flawed wagon this late in the game could have potentially been avoided, as we would have had a lot more to go off, other than just random guesswork based on a few posts... but im glad we finally have at least a little to go off[

 

quote name=Velocity' timestamp='1539557054' post='956519] everybody keep your eyes on SM and SBG, I just have a feeling.

 

 

 

Sister midnight. She wanted me shot. (I'm hurt sm). Jumping in with the crowd and she was on Kevin's short list as well.

 

 

 

I think velocity might be on to something here and  you might be on to something here.  SM has been suggesting a SBG shot all game, and then played it off as a lol move/a joke. Then when a small wagon starts to form she switched her mindset and jumped right onto you.  And what she said struck me as a bit odd.  TW and Lachiton both provided solid reasons for why they decided to vote for you, however she basically just echo'd velocity's words.  now I am not saying she is scum, but of all of the people on the wagon, I think she is most likely

 

As far as people off the wagon, I still am worried about both wolfpacks and SBG, as both have been very quiet all game and have not really contributed to much of the game, so perhaps we have scum trying to hide as inactive.

 

 

 

Its likely scum was on my wagon. It's also likely one stayed off. Just a theroy.

 

 

my guess is we have 1 scum off the wagon and 2 off

 

voting isnt necessary for a kill and even if there wasnt a wagon on you, velocity still would have had to shoot and kill someone, so I think its more likely that 1 scum decided to go on the wagon, and then two of them hid off it, as being on it would not be as important to get the kill in a normal game, and scum obviously knew if Robert was shot, he would be town, so they could stay off the wagon and not look like a suspect/someone who pushed for the shot.  

 

im sticking with my previous suspicions i stated yesterday and my top suspects are SM, SBG and Wolfpacks.

 

 

I would really like to hear a lot more from SBG and wolfpacks, as we are to the point where activity is going to be crucial.  Silence will only benefit the scum, and if you two are town and dont start to participate, we are going to lose this game...

OH NO! NOT VELOCITY!

 

Sorry I doubted you, Robert, it was the best guess I had. I agree that there may be scum both on and off the wagon, but I’m not convinced convinced scum was definitely on the wagon. I need to ponder this.

 

On another, RL note, today is my 18th wedding anniversary! Hubby and I both took the day off and I probably won’t be on all that much today.

On another, RL note, today is my 18th wedding anniversary! Hubby and I both took the day off and I probably won’t be on all that much today.

 

 

Happy Anniversary

 

vote:  SM's husband 

 

for stealing her from the rest of us for the last 18 yrs

At least I have more to look at. I have a wagon against me we can analyze. Witch was formed in a hurry on last day, and obviously very flawed.

 

 

and if we were voting since d1, a flawed wagon this late in the game could have potentially been avoided, as we would have had a lot more to go off, other than just random guesswork based on a few posts... but im glad we finally have at least a little to go off[

 

quote name=Velocity' timestamp='1539557054' post='956519] everybody keep your eyes on SM and SBG, I just have a feeling.

 

 

Sister midnight. She wanted me shot. (I'm hurt sm). Jumping in with the crowd and she was on Kevin's short list as well.

 

 

 

I think velocity might be on to something here and  you might be on to something here.  SM has been suggesting a SBG shot all game, and then played it off as a lol move/a joke. Then when a small wagon starts to form she switched her mindset and jumped right onto you.  And what she said struck me as a bit odd.  TW and Lachiton both provided solid reasons for why they decided to vote for you, however she basically just echo'd velocity's words.  now I am not saying she is scum, but of all of the people on the wagon, I think she is most likely

 

As far as people off the wagon, I still am worried about both wolfpacks and SBG, as both have been very quiet all game and have not really contributed to much of the game, so perhaps we have scum trying to hide as inactive.

 

 

Its likely scum was on my wagon. It's also likely one stayed off. Just a theroy.

 

 

my guess is we have 1 scum off the wagon and 2 off

 

voting isnt necessary for a kill and even if there wasnt a wagon on you, velocity still would have had to shoot and kill someone, so I think its more likely that 1 scum decided to go on the wagon, and then two of them hid off it, as being on it would not be as important to get the kill in a normal game, and scum obviously knew if Robert was shot, he would be town, so they could stay off the wagon and not look like a suspect/someone who pushed for the shot.  

 

im sticking with my previous suspicions i stated yesterday and my top suspects are SM, SBG and Wolfpacks.

 

 

I would really like to hear a lot more from SBG and wolfpacks, as we are to the point where activity is going to be crucial.  Silence will only benefit the scum, and if you two are town and dont start to participate, we are going to lose this game...

 

You posted while I was writing. I believe I was very clear in stating I was joking about suspecting SBG because he’s always scum, but serious about his inactivity.

Well, shit. Sorry Robert. It just felt off to me that you didn't think it mattered if the gunbearer shot town because the townie wouldn't die, even though the gunbearer who is town would die.. Either way we were going to lose a townie unless Velocity targeted scum. Obviously we chose wrong with that one. :/

 

We are now at a point where it's 5 town vs 3 scum. Thanks to Kevin's shot on day 1 we still have two misfires to work with. I agree that there is most likely at least 1 scum on Robert's wagon from yesterday and possibly even 2 but I actually think it's more likely that only 1 was.

 

So let's analyze everything:

 

Lachiton - Started the wagon on Robert. Up to this point we are all basically assuming he is town based off of his role claim and semi "confirmation" by Medved. I still believe Lachiton is much more likely to be town than not but the possibility still exists that he took a gamble with a role claim early on. However, he should absolutely contribute more because he is the closest we have to confirmed town.

 

Me - I followed Lachiton's vote up with one of my own. As mentioned above it just seemed to me like Robert either didn't care or was casually ignoring the fact that a townie would die either way if the gunbearer shot town. It just didn't feel like town sentiment to me. 

 

SM - Was third on Robert's wagon. This might have been a reasonably safe place for mafia to hide as well as an important one on a suspicion wagon. Robert already had two votes. The only other person with one vote on him at that point was Wolfpacks. If SM is scum she could have placed another vote on Robert if Wolfpacks is also scum which would potentially remove any confusion that Velocity might have had to consider when taking his shot since Robert's wagon would look stronger to sway Velocity's decision away from a scum and toward a townie. SM was also on Kevin's shortlist.

 

Brewers - Was the last vote on Robert's wagon. At that point Robert's wagon already had a clear and "comfortable" vote lead. If Brewers was scum he could have very easily stayed off the wagon and either refrained from voting or made a case against someone else and voted that way. His vote feels like a town vote because it would've been a much smarter play for him to stay out of the spotlight if he is scum.

 

SBG - Considered Wolfpacks to be suspicious earlier in the day and chose to vote that way. Could be town or scum move but at least he voted. However, if SBG is town we need more out of him moving forward. Please post more..

 

Wolfpacks and Rafay- Neither one of them voted or mentioned suspicion of anyone in particular. Is there any particular reason neither of you voted? It would be nice to hear your thoughts today.

 

I don't have any real strong suspicion yet but I want to hear more from SM, SBG, Wolfpacks, and Rafay. I think that at least two of our remaining scum are in this grouping but I wouldn't be surprised if all three ended up here.

EDIT: It appears that both Brewers and SM posted while I was writing.

Dang it not my new moped i just bought it... then again there is no more me to drive it... welp I guess I'll just ghost y'all guys now

@medved  can we start to enforce the activity rule you put in place.  It feels like its been days since some people talked...