Ned climbed the stairs of the Red Keep.  He knew he was so close to discovering all the parties involved in the murder of Jon Arryn.  Was it just Cersei, or was her brother Jamie involved the entire time?  Ned wondered.  He noticed Jamie's door was slightly cracked.  Inside he could see Jamie Lannister and another large figure. which Ned guessed was probably the Mountain.

 

"Its done Sir Jamie."  The Mountian said.  "I left no witnesses."

 

"Good.  That bastard could have challenged our King's claim on the throne.  We cant allow Joffrey to have his claim challenged."  Jamie responded.

 

Ned rushed back to his chambers.  The Lannister's were working together this entire time!  They are killing anyone who might challenge Joffrey's rule!  Ned summoned Jory Cassel, the head of his house gaurd.

 

"Jory, I need you to be vigilant.  The Lannisters, they are going to be coming for us.  Protect my daughters.  Protect Arya and Sansa."

 

"Yes my Lord."  Jory rushed off to fortify the Stark defenses....

 

 

SeaBeeGipson, Gendry, Vanilla Townie had his skull crushed in N3.

 

It is now Day 4

 

Vote Count 4.00

iSocalism (0)

KevinH (0) 

Lord MK (0)

Rhizoctonia (0)

Sister Midnight (0)

Velocity (0)

 

Not Voting:   iSocialism,KevinH, Lord MK, Rhizoctonia, Sister Midnight, Velocity

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 4 at deadline.

Deadline is Tuesday, November 29th and 9:00am CST

 

 

 

 

Actually, looking at this, I'm pretty much sold Isocialism is telling the truth.  Given that it states that Ned caught the Mountain and Jamie plotting the kills at night, this goes along with Ned's (Isocialism's) reveal that he knew who the 2 scum were.

 

Vote:  SM

iSocialism is lying about me.
 
I am Septa Mordane, Roleblocker, and tutor to Sansa and Arya Stark. I traveled with Ned to Kings Landing to watch after the Stark Girls.

 

My actions:

N1: Block Robert2424

N2: Block iSocialism

N3: Block Lord MK

 

I hope a tracker or watcher can confirm me on this.

iSocialism is lying about me.

 

I am Septa Mordane, Roleblocker, and tutor to Sansa and Arya Stark. I traveled with Ned to Kings Landing to watch after the Stark Girls.

 

My actions:

N1: Block Robert2424

N2: Block iSocialism

N3: Block Lord MK

 

I hope a tracker or watcher can confirm me on this.

 

 

Either Isocialism is talking out his ass and fake RC, or he's not.  He can't be right about you and wrong about SM.  There's no framer, so there's no way to have you come up as scum and not be outside of Isocialism fake RC. 

 

Given the fact Isocialism's name he RC'd, the flavor which shows that Ned Stark knew who was part of the killings, and now revealed today he found the remaining 2 scum.

 

That being said, I do think you're a RB, a scum one.  The flavor also stated that Jamie blocked Ned from talking with Cersai the night Cersai died (day you claimed to RB him).  This caused Isocialism to get a no result.  This is either from you RB him, or because Cersai died and thus nothing to investigate.  Nonetheless, the person in the Flavor stated that it was Jamie who told Ned he couldn't enter to speak to Cersai, and it was also Jamie and The Mountain who was mentioned as being apart of the kill of Gendry that Ned overheard them talking last night.

 

So my guess is you're Jamie, a scum RB.  And SM is the Mountain, Scum (whatever her role is)

 

It doesn't matter who is lynched today, you or SM.  But I believe Isocialism over you both.  

***Meant to say, "He can't be wrong about you and right about SM" ***

Hey guys guess what. I'm the cop.

N1 SM ... Scum

N2 TW... no results

N3 Kevin... scum

 

I'm also Ned Stark

 

Let's the counter claim come in from SM or Kevin if not

 

Vote SM

 

Look back at my post I've been dropping somewhat hints about her.

Really??? I’m not ready to role claim, but isn’t it just amazing that you happened to do 3 investigations and all 3 are scum? Not likely. You are either insane cop, lying scum, or lying SK. Is it posdible to have insane modifier in this game? If not, you are lying.

 

Hey guys guess what. I'm the cop.

N1 SM ... Scum

N2 TW... no results

N3 Kevin... scum

 

I'm also Ned Stark

 

Let's the counter claim come in from SM or Kevin if not

 

Vote SM

 

Look back at my post I've been dropping somewhat hints about her.

Really??? I’m not ready to role claim, but isn’t it just amazing that you happened to do 3 investigations and all 3 are scum? Not likely. You are either insane cop, lying scum, or lying SK. Is it posdible to have insane modifier in this game? If not, you are lying.

 

 

 

Make sure you talk over your RC with Kevin in the scum chat.

 

 

 

 

Hey guys guess what. I'm the cop.

N1 SM ... Scum

N2 TW... no results

N3 Kevin... scum

 

I'm also Ned Stark

 

Let's the counter claim come in from SM or Kevin if not

 

Vote SM

 

Look back at my post I've been dropping somewhat hints about her.

 

Really??? I’m not ready to role claim, but isn’t it just amazing that you happened to do 3 investigations and all 3 are scum? Not likely. You are either insane cop, lying scum, or lying SK. Is it posdible to have insane modifier in this game? If not, you are lying.

 

 

 

 

Make sure you talk over your RC with Kevin in the scum chat.

So no matter what I say you’re going to lynch me?

 

 

 

Hey guys guess what. I'm the cop.

N1 SM ... Scum

N2 TW... no results

N3 Kevin... scum

 

I'm also Ned Stark

 

Let's the counter claim come in from SM or Kevin if not

 

Vote SM

 

Look back at my post I've been dropping somewhat hints about her.

Really??? I’m not ready to role claim, but isn’t it just amazing that you happened to do 3 investigations and all 3 are scum? Not likely. You are either insane cop, lying scum, or lying SK. Is it posdible to have insane modifier in this game? If not, you are lying.

 

 

 

 

Make sure you talk over your RC with Kevin in the scum chat.

So no matter what I say you’re going to lynch me?

 

 

 

Yes.  My vote isn't moving outside of you or Kevin.

 

The flavor of the game suggests exactly what Isocialism has revealed.  He revealed his name and just as the flavor suggests, Ned knows who was part of last nights killing, Jamie and The Mountain.  Kevin only worsened his case by saying that he is roleblocker, because he revealed he RB'd Isocialism N2.  On the start of D3, it states that Jamie Lannister was the one who told Ned that he couldn't go in to talk with Cersai.  And then today, the flavor says that The Mountain and Jamie were part of the killing last night.  

 

We know it was Jamie who blocked Ned from investigating Cersie N2, and Kevin admitted to RB him.  We also know Ned knows Jamie and The mountain were the ones who killed SBG last night.  2 things are similar in both these, the person who RB'd N2, was also part of the killing last night.  That means Kevin is Jamie.

 

I at first thought the killing of Cersai was reason he got a no result, but Kevin actually revealing he did N2 also caused him to reveal his real name in the Flavor, thus actually solidifying even more he's lying and is scum.    So if he's right about Kevin, he's right about you.  The same thing I mentioned earlier still exist.  He can't be wrong about one of you and right about the other.  There's no framer, so he's either right about both or wrong about both, and given the flavor that shows Kevin's name isn't what he claimed, and that Ned (who Isocialism RC as) knows who was the 2 who took part in the killing which makes sense if he knew you were scum N1 and now Kevin N3, it all fits together exactly as the flavor has said.

 

Sorry SM The Mountain, I wish you weren't scum but everything Isocialism has revealed goes right with the story of the game told by Brewers.  I don't think it's very nice of you to kill of Gendry last night, and the others earlier in this game

I think that me, Rhizo, and iSoc are all town, and I'm not sure who else is town, if there is any other town. At this point, if we are broken down to 3 on 3, town's basically screwed. If it's 4 on 2, we have a chance.

I think that me, Rhizo, and iSoc are all town, and I'm not sure who else is town, if there is any other town. At this point, if we are broken down to 3 on 3, town's basically screwed. If it's 4 on 2, we have a chance.

 

 

Well if you think Isocialism is town and believe his RC, then you voting SM puts her at 3 votes.  Even if there's 3 scum or 2 scum and a possible SK, they can't beat the lynch as long as SM is the first one to get to 3.  At best it's a 3 votes to 3 votes, and as long as SM reaches 3 votes first she will be killed.  

 

I believe Isocialism, what has been revealed all fits.  Even what Kevin revealed has damned himself as I pointed out.  Everyone always seems to always shy away from reading the Flavor (Brewers whole write up for each night), and 2x now it has come in handy to reveal useful information both in this game and earlier game I played with TW modding.  

First of all, I almost forgot: OH NO!!! NOT SeaBeeGipson!

 

Second, I am not the Mountain and I am not scum. I don’t see anything in the flavor to suggest I’m The Mountain. The fact that isoc and Rhiz are so gong ho about me being scum makes me believe that they are scum.

 

Tell me Rhiz, what is your role claim?

Also quotes so people don't necessarily have to look back.

 

Kevin claims to RB Isocialism N2

 

Ned knew it was time to see the Queen and tell her what he knew.  Everything was starting to come together. He walked up the steps to her tower in the Red Keep.  Jaime Lannister stood outside her door. “Im sorry Lord Stark, but you cannot enter, I wont allow it.

 

Goes with the idea Kevin is a Roleblocker, and his name is not what he claims, but in fact Jamie Lannister

 

Ned climbed the stairs of the Red Keep.  He knew he was so close to discovering all the parties involved in the murder of Jon Arryn.  Was it just Cersei, or was her brother Jamie involved the entire time?  Ned wondered.  He noticed Jamie's door was slightly cracked.  Inside he could see Jamie Lannister and another large figure. which Ned guessed was probably the Mountain.

 

"Its done Sir Jamie."  The Mountian said.  "I left no witnesses."

 

"Good.  That bastard could have challenged our King's claim on the throne.  We cant allow Joffrey to have his claim challenged."  Jamie responded.

 

 

This shows that Ned investigated Jamie.  Isocialism claimed to investigate Kevin last night, which we know is Jamie from the earlier quoted text from N2 of RBing Isocialism.  It also reveals he knows who both were part of the killing, which again goes with Isocialism's reveal he knows SM and Kevin are both scum by his cop results.

 

Isocialism's RC goes exactly with all that has been said in Brewers write up.  No clearer that they're the scum

First of all, I almost forgot: OH NO!!! NOT SeaBeeGipson!

 

Second, I am not the Mountain and I am not scum. I don’t see anything in the flavor to suggest I’m The Mountain. The fact that isoc and Rhiz are so gong ho about me being scum makes me believe that they are scum.

 

Tell me Rhiz, what is your role claim?

 

 

You've been caught by the cop, and his results he got match 100% to not only what the text has revealed, but also goes hand and hand with Kevin's mention of RBing Isocialism N2.  It was Jamie who RB'd Ned, not Septa which Kevin claims.  Kevin is lying, which means he's scum.  This also reveals that Isocialism is a sane cop, as he got a positive scum result on Kevin, the same he got on you N1.  If he's right about 1, he's right about the other.  Again, as I've said, the story says Ned knows who both scum are, and what did Isocialism reveal today, the 2 remaining scum.

 

I'll take a cop result over some false RC any day of the week.  I can certainly RC if the other town want, I'm not because some scum wants me to.  I'm not the one coming up scum to a cop, you're.  

@Rhizo I thought 5 because I looked at the vote counter for rafay, not the actual people left, that's my bad. And I believe that its 30% of the players are scum? I don't actually fully remember, but I thought it was 30. That's why I said thsoe two things. Also I hammered him in because, this is my second game of mafia under IRON so I didn't remember that hitting the vote deadline would end the day early. On another note, it doesn't help that we need 4 votes to lynch, and we could potentially only have 3 townies left

That can't happen.

 

If there's only 3 town left, and the town doesn't have control of the vote, then town automatically loses.

 

Mafia have a win condition like this.

You win when mafia controls the vote or nothing can prevent that from happening and all other threats have been eliminated.

 

This is the standard win condition for scum in all normal mafia games. (The non normal ones are the King and guards one)

This is a normal game. So this is the win condition for them.

 

So if it's just 3 townies and 3 scum, town no longer have control of the vote, which is their most important power.

So i can safely say that there's just 2 scum left.

 

Now saying that, i have an exception to it, and that's the second part of the win condition, when all threats have been eliminated.

Now there may or may not be a sk, so it can also mean 3 scum, 1 sk and 2 townies are left.

Now i am pretty sure that iSoc is town, as noone is going to rat out their partners when they are in a winning position. There's absolutely no incentive for him to do a gamble now as scum could have won it blindfolded if they stay silent.

That too a double rat.

So that's one townie.

I am the next townie.

So 2 townies.

Now rhizo, if he was scum, he would get the whole team to pile on iSoc the moment the rc went on air. It's a first to the post vote system. So he would just get the game over with that instant.

So i am pretty sure that he's also scum.

 

So that means 3 townies, just proving that it can't be 3 scum, 1 sk and 2 scum.

 

So it's either 2 scum, 1 sk or 3 scum, 3 townies.

Now i don't think that there is a sk. As that sk would have been stupid not to make a single kill the whole game. Rafay was the only one doing non-scum killings this game.

 

So the current situation is 3 scum, 3 townies or 2 scum, 4 townies.

There's 2 confirmed mafia, and 3 confirmed town, and 1 kid (velocity)

 

So we are pretty much done here.

 

Velocity, please vote.

We rushed thru yesterday, why do you want to rush today? Is that good playing?

We rushed thru yesterday, why do you want to rush today? Is that good playing?

Yesterday we didn't have concrete information of scum from a cop role. Today we do.

 

It's either you believe Isocialism RC or you don't. Obviously you or Kevin dont, you're the two who came up scum to a cop. There's a huge difference from yesterday to today. Today we have information that points to the last remaining scum, yesterday we didnt. But I don't care how long the day goes on, doesn't matter to me.

 

Also were the point where everyone who has posted today, most multiple times and no one has countered cop claim of Isocialism. If someone else was cop that would of been the first thing posted following Isocialism's RC and it didn't happen. Do you think in a game full of so many VT's town would not have a cop at the very least?

Well rhiz doesn't say he's the cop

Kevin doesn't say he's the cop

SM won't say who she is, but doesn't claim to the cop.

 

Anyone else claim to be the cop?

SM and Kevin both claim for me to be lying which would imply I'm scum, and someone else is my scum partner. Kevin or SM, clear to point fingers at the second scum?

If I'm truly lying who's the last one, Rhiz, Velocity, or MK?

 

We are at we mislynch we lose, but unless someone else is the cop, or think I'm not. It's a win win.

This is an interesting predicament... I'm only going to role claim if absolutely needed, and for right now I'm leaving my vote on the table, because if we bring SM to three votes and she is innocent, by some off chance, the scum could just hammer her in and that's it because at that point we don't got much left, now would we? So as of now, I'm not role claiming at thos point, and I'm not voting yet. On another note, ouch, that hurts MK, that hurts man. "Theres 2 confirmed mafia, and 3 confirmed town, and 1 kid (velocity)." Like you aren't wrong but my fragile masculinity is at risk. JK about that last part, but just know that I am keeping my eyes out, not literally, hopefully, for what I think may be it.

Isoc May be an insane cop, which means he’s not lying, he just gets the wrong results with his investigations.

Okay then if that's the case, Kevin, yourself, and myself are town. Who are the other two scums?

 

Though, I know Kevin and you are the last scums let's enlighten that idea, who are you? What were your actions if any? Don't be afraid to claim since if we mislynch we lose, so don't avoid giving us information.

I am Sansa Stark vanilla town.

Since this can't go any worse for anyone, let's add fuel to the fire, shall we? I am Lord Varys, ROLEBLOCKER. Remember where I hammered Rafay in? It said that Lord Varys provided them with important information, and that's what caused his execution. Make sense now eh? My actions as an RB?

 

N1: Block Wolfpacks

N2: Block Rafay

N3: Block Kevin

 

I had roleblocked Wolfpacks becauss there wasn't any better or worse choice to RB. I role blocked Rafay N2 because I was a little suspicious. I roleblocked Kevin because of one theory I had. Kevin has been the only one to vote on somebody's execution that has been called out, and both of them were innocent. If I roleblock him and nobody dies by mafia.... Then he obviously is one... otherwise he is my most likely guess, as stated above with the voting. Now that we have what iSoc said, it seems I may have been correct...

A little clarification on the reason that I did actually hammer Rafay in D2, now that we know I'm a RB. I role blocked him, but the same night somebody died who Rafay claimed he killed, and considering he was actually the vigilante it seems like he would've actually killed him, which means I must've been Roleblocked by another roleblocker on D2, which probably was Kevin, who is a scum RB and is lying about his blocks and name! It's all unfolding in the fourth day now, I see.

So roleblockers mania.

 

I think velocity is telling the truth.

 

Velocity, it's your vote.

 

I am either the hammer or i am not voting.

Vote Count 4.01

iSocalism (0)

KevinH (0) 

Lord MK (0)

Rhizoctonia (0)

Sister Midnight (2)iSocialism, Rhizoctonia

Velocity (0)

 

Not Voting:  KevinH, Lord MK, Sister Midnight, Velocity

 

Currently in Danger of Mod kill:  KevinH-1 post

 

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch or 2 at deadline.

Deadline is Tuesday, November 29th and 9:00am CST

Wierd that is the second time that both isocialism and MK are very anxious to end things PREMATURELY. Experienced townies know this is a great way to lose the game. That is why scum always pushes for quick executions. You guys mark my words, if you lynch me, you will regret it. But look at who has vanished - KevinH (scum hide behind inactivity), and who is rushing the vote - isocialism, Rhiz, and MK. There are two murders lurking in there. Velocity, you were already chastised by Rhiz for being the early hammer, but now he wants a speedy execution.

 

VOTE RHIZO

"I deny nothing." Beric Dondarrion stated. "It was me, I killed the queen, I stabbed her through the heart with my sword."

 

"The queen died from poison," Ned replied

 

"No you are mistaken, I killed her, the Lord of Light demanded it."

 

"Very well, We find you guilty. Bring me his head," Joffery said.

 

I believe Velocity blocked Rafay N2 and that it was a serial killer and the mafia that made the kills.

 

I think that iSocialism is the serial killer playing a gambit. He is guessing that Sister Midnight is scum and if that is true, then I'll be lynched because he guessed right.

 

Vote: iSocialism