My role is unbelievable?

And too specific?

 

Then what's up with the even night vote thief, who also happens to be bulletproof and lynchproof?

 

Your claims are all over the place, mate

 

Thus, i am pretty solid on you being scum.

 

Vote: Velocity.

 

Let's see where this goes.

My role is unbelievable?

And too specific?

 

Then what's up with the even night vote thief, who also happens to be bulletproof and lynchproof?

 

Your claims are all over the place, mate

 

Thus, i am pretty solid on you being scum.

 

Vote: Velocity.

 

Let's see where this goes.

I never claimed anything other than even-night vote thief and bulletproof. I still don’t know how I lived through the lynch, I’m assuming it was either a hidden loved modifier or a hidden lynchproof x-shot lynchproof modifier.

 

Even-night 1-shot bulletproof vote thief (hidden modifier lynchproof/loved)

compared to

non-consecutive role JOAT hidden insane cop modifier.

Why would only one aspect of all your JOAT abilities be modified, why not any of the others, why not none of them? It doesn’t make sense to only modify one aspect of it when you might not even have used it at all.

 

If nothing else happens to change my mind by midday tomorrow I’m going to vote for MK now, he’s been trying to get me lynched way too hard for so many days now, and he has, at best, a shaky defense, and while I will admit that it is how my defense is too considering I survived the lynch, which I still don’t know how, I still feel that his RC and general actions are way too unbelievable and scummy for me to think anyone else scum right now

My other abilities can't be modified.

It's roleblocking.

Of course, my roleblock may not actually happen.

Tw just says, got it.

And the 3rd role is doctor.

I haven't used it till now.

But mafiawiki doesn't have any other standard modifiers for doctor.

The only role i have which can be modified is the cop one.

 

And my entire role is itself modified.

I can't use the same action consecutively.

So if i used cop on n1, i will have to wait till n3 to use it again.

 

So it's not that only one aspect is modified, rather that only one aspect of my role can be modified, in the first place.

So this is the current claims amongst us all

 

 

MK: Dwight Schrute, Non-Consecutive JOAT (Cop, Roleblocker, Doctor) (With insane cop modifier? Cousin to known scum?)

• N1: Investigate SBG (Not Guilty)
• N2: Roleblock Rhizo
• N3: Investigate KevinH (Guilty)
• N4: Roleblock SBG

 

Velocity: Creed Bratton, 1-shot bulletproof, even night vote thief (Lynchproof?)

 

Eogrim: Stanley Hudson, VT

 

Me: Pam Beesly, 2-shot Commuter

• Commuted N3
• Commuted N4

 

This is definitely going to be a hard choice. I'm going to take Eogrim's RC as him telling the truth, since he is new i find it believable that he would sit in the background because of it. He could also be experianced with mafia games outside of IRON and blindsiding us all. That would be a GOAT play for sure lol. Part of me wants to just say that Dwight is scum due to his relation to Mose. But from the show, Dwight became good friends with everyone in the office at the end so i'm not sure if that would make him town aligned or not. I could see reasoning for both sides.

 

@Velocity maybe you said this before but i can't find it. Did you use your vote thief role previously? If so then when, and on who?

So this is the current claims amongst us all

 

 

MK: Dwight Schrute, Non-Consecutive JOAT (Cop, Roleblocker, Doctor) (With insane cop modifier? Cousin to known scum?)

• N1: Investigate SBG (Not Guilty)
• N2: Roleblock Rhizo
• N3: Investigate KevinH (Guilty)
• N4: Roleblock SBG

Velocity: Creed Bratton, 1-shot bulletproof, even night vote thief (Lynchproof?)

 

Eogrim: Stanley Hudson, VT

 

Me: Pam Beesly, 2-shot Commuter

• Commuted N3
• Commuted N4

This is definitely going to be a hard choice. I'm going to take Eogrim's RC as him telling the truth, since he is new i find it believable that he would sit in the background because of it. He could also be experianced with mafia games outside of IRON and blindsiding us all. That would be a GOAT play for sure lol. Part of me wants to just say that Dwight is scum due to his relation to Mose. But from the show, Dwight became good friends with everyone in the office at the end so i'm not sure if that would make him town aligned or not. I could see reasoning for both sides.

 

@Velocity maybe you said this before but i can't find it. Did you use your vote thief role previously? If so then when, and on who?

I have not used it at all, I consider it negative utility when town aligned, and until this point I haven’t been confident enough to steal anyone’s vote.

I was debating on stealing MK’s last night because of the Kevin lynch but a I figured there would only be 4-5 people left so I didn’t want to take the chance on it.

 

So this is the current claims amongst us all

 

 

MK: Dwight Schrute, Non-Consecutive JOAT (Cop, Roleblocker, Doctor) (With insane cop modifier? Cousin to known scum?)

• N1: Investigate SBG (Not Guilty)
• N2: Roleblock Rhizo
• N3: Investigate KevinH (Guilty)
• N4: Roleblock SBG

Velocity: Creed Bratton, 1-shot bulletproof, even night vote thief (Lynchproof?)

 

Eogrim: Stanley Hudson, VT

 

Me: Pam Beesly, 2-shot Commuter

• Commuted N3
• Commuted N4

This is definitely going to be a hard choice. I'm going to take Eogrim's RC as him telling the truth, since he is new i find it believable that he would sit in the background because of it. He could also be experianced with mafia games outside of IRON and blindsiding us all. That would be a GOAT play for sure lol. Part of me wants to just say that Dwight is scum due to his relation to Mose. But from the show, Dwight became good friends with everyone in the office at the end so i'm not sure if that would make him town aligned or not. I could see reasoning for both sides.

 

@Velocity maybe you said this before but i can't find it. Did you use your vote thief role previously? If so then when, and on who?

I have not used it at all, I consider it negative utility when town aligned, and until this point I haven’t been confident enough to steal anyone’s vote.

I was debating on stealing MK’s last night because of the Kevin lynch but a I figured there would only be 4-5 people left so I didn’t want to take the chance on it.

You haven't used it, cause you don't have it.

 

You are a 1-shot lynchproof mafia goon.

 

That's it.

You and SeaBee made everything up.

You and SeaBee saw lynchproof and thought, huh, let's run it as bulletproof to dissuade any vigs.

Considering SeaBee's last character was a vig and that character won the game for town.

And the vote thief, that one was made because it's highly specific and thus easy to pass off as "too specific to be made up"

As of right now, i'm planning on voting for Velocity. I'm going to hold off on doing so to prevent a hammer for the last day. What are your thoughts so far @Eogrim? 

If eogrim is scum, he would win the best youth mafia player award

At least, when looking at the roles from the show, Creed Bratton is the most likely scum. I don't know exactly how much TW is leaning on that.

 

Besides from that, we all have things either about our play or our role claims that makes s look suspicious.

These are the things I can think of besides what you all have already brought up:

• I am seemingly the only vanilla character in a game that has the characteristics of a role madness game
• MK is the second player with roleblocking ability (iSoc being the first).
• Unless last scum has extra kill ability we're lacking a vig/SK.

The last point there means that it might be TWO false-claims here, and I'll be buggered to figure out which..

However, Lord MK seems to be onto something at least, and I'm inclined to support that claim. I concur with you CM, and will hold my vote for now.

 

 

And just to make it perfectly clear - this is my first mafia game, both here and anywhere else. I'd be perfectly willing to lie in-game if I'd have to, but not about anything outside of the game at hand. 

I'm going to take Eogrim's RC as him telling the truth, since he is new i find it believable that he would sit in the background because of it. He could also be experianced with mafia games outside of IRON and blindsiding us all. That would be a GOAT play for sure lol.

But that would have been cool

As of right now, i'm planning on voting for Velocity. I'm going to hold off on doing so to prevent a hammer for the last day. What are your thoughts so far @Eogrim?

Lynch me and scum is most likely going to win, if MK isn’t lying he couldn’t use his roleblock ability (cop N1, RB N2, cop N3, RB N4), N5 he could only use doctor or cop, and if he chose wrong with doctor scum wins, 1-1.

 

Of course, I still don’t believe that MK is telling the truth, and still intend to vote for him, but if the rest of town wants to lynch me... well that’s just that, at that point I would hope MK isn’t lying so town still has a chance to pull the win.

Wait, I totally forgot about that vig.

Or sk.

 

We need to re-examine everything.

 

There's a mafia, possible sk/vig.

And town joat and another role.

 

And because mafia and sk are different factions, it's still possible.

 

There's 2 distinct kill flavours for night.

Some random moving away or something along that lines, on most nights.

Suggesting that this is scum

 

Then the strangled text.

If you know something about SK, it's that they tend to strangle their enemies.

Vigs have a gun flavour.

 

They did it with brewers and rhizo.

Scum didn't kill last night.

 

That means we have a SK on the loose.

 

 

So almost everyone is lying, all bets are off at this point.

 

I am sticking with velocity, regardless.

Wait, I totally forgot about that vig.

Or sk.

 

We need to re-examine everything.

 

There's a mafia, possible sk/vig.

And town joat and another role.

 

And because mafia and sk are different factions, it's still possible.

 

There's 2 distinct kill flavours for night.

Some random moving away or something along that lines, on most nights.

Suggesting that this is scum

 

Then the strangled text.

If you know something about SK, it's that they tend to strangle their enemies.

Vigs have a gun flavour.

 

They did it with brewers and rhizo.

Scum didn't kill last night.

 

That means we have a SK on the loose.

 

 

So almost everyone is lying, all bets are off at this point.

 

I am sticking with velocity, regardless.

 

That is a good point. The Scranton Strangler is amongst us then. It could be possible that i was targeted last night by the SK, but since i was commuting i was able to avoid death. This makes this day much more hard, because we are in a 2 v 1 v 1 situation. 

 

We mislynch and hit town, sk and scum hit each other or town, then town loses.

We hit scum, sk kills town, sk wins

We hit sk, scum kills town, scum wins

 

In all cases, it seems town is bound to be on the losing end at this point. It's to bad i came to the realization late, but i am fully confident that Velocity is the Scranton Strangler. The only thing that can save town now is a hidden modifier, or someone is lying about their abilities.

 

According to the Dunderpedia, a fan theory about the Scranton Strangler...

 

 

Creed is the Scranton Strangler due to the many suggestions that he has killed many times before. Including the Murder episode where he comes in all bloody. Shortly after, he runs away. Additionally he killed and assumed the real Creed Bratton's identity. However, there is no suggestion that he is the Scranton Strangler, only that he has killed many times before.

 

It also says as a fan theory that Mose and Toby are also theorized to be the Scranton Strangler. Toby flipped town, and Mose flipped Mafia instead of SK. That only leaves Creed as a suspect in this case, which in my mind dead sets me on him being SK.

 

Vote Velocity

As long as MK is true with his RC we still have a chance if we lynch right. We either take out scum or SK

Then it's up to MK to let us live to vote another day.

That'll leave us 2-1 day 6.

I believe both Pam & Stanley would be likely safeclaims, both Creed and Dwight unlikely ones.

On the other hand would Dwight and Creed be the most likely scum characters.

This will certainly be an interesting ending! 

 

Velocity, anything you would like to add before we cast the final votes?

Nominate for the Scummy Awards now!!!

 

https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/63287-scummies-2019-nominations/

 

 

As long as MK is true with his RC we still have a chance if we lynch right. We either take out scum or SK Then it's up to MK to let us live to vote another day.

 

 

In no situation would MK (or you, if it is you) throw the game, I find that laughable. At this point, it is impossible for town to pull this one off. But i will at least go out taking one with me

I'm not sure we understood each other right there. I meant if MK uses his doc ability and stop a night kill, we'll have a 2-1 situation tomorrow. Or does I (once again) miss something elementary?

I'm not sure we understood each other right there. I meant if MK uses his doc ability and stop a night kill, we'll have a 2-1 situation tomorrow. Or does I (once again) miss something elementary?

Well.

If we hit scum.

That's 2 town and 1 sk left.

At night.

That will change.

Suppose cm is the sk.

Eogrim is the townie along with me.

Cm will hit me.

I will protect you, but i can't protect myself.

It's almost game over.

At this point, it's either a scum win or a sk victory.

 

I'm not sure we understood each other right there. I meant if MK uses his doc ability and stop a night kill, we'll have a 2-1 situation tomorrow. Or does I (once again) miss something elementary?

Well.

If we hit scum.

That's 2 town and 1 sk left.

At night.

That will change.

Suppose cm is the sk.

Eogrim is the townie along with me.

Cm will hit me.

I will protect you, but i can't protect myself.

It's almost game over.

At this point, it's either a scum win or a sk victory.

 

 

Exactly. once the night action is submitted, town loses.

 

I'm pretty sure MK is the other scum/sk. It was a well played game, but town's time is numbered at this point

As long as MK is true with his RC we still have a chance if we lynch right. We either take out scum or SK

Then it's up to MK to let us live to vote another day.

That'll leave us 2-1 day 6.

I believe both Pam & Stanley would be likely safeclaims, both Creed and Dwight unlikely ones.

On the other hand would Dwight and Creed be the most likely scum characters.

This will certainly be an interesting ending!

 

Velocity, anything you would like to add before we cast the final votes?

If I was Creed Bratton the SK why would I claim my actual role name as my character under a different role? I’m pretty sure I would’ve been given a safe claim if I was actually Creed Bratton as the SK.

 

Also to note, Creed Bratton is a kleptomaniac, which would most likely be the reason why he’s a vote *thief.*

 

I’m really not sure though, because like I said I never watched the show before, I just went ahead and checked my character’s info page once I got my role and character name.

 

 

If I was Creed Bratton the SK why would I claim my actual role name as my character under a different role?

 

 

 

 

I never watched the show before

 

Seems like you answered your own question

 

Being that you haven't watched the show, you are unaware of the fan theories behind it. I was full aware of the Toby theory, which is why i jumped on Kevin. But after reading through the wiki, it made sense. Creed is a murderer on the run from the police

 

 

 

In Murder, Creed shows up late to work and steps in during the middle of the office's murder mystery game. When Michael tells him that they have discovered a murder and he is a suspect, Creed steps out under the guise of settling at his desk, but is caught by the camera running back to his car and fleeing the parking lot (this is possibly an allusion to the disappearance of the "other" Creed Bratton as mentioned in Crime Aid).

 

 

 

I'm not sure we understood each other right there. I meant if MK uses his doc ability and stop a night kill, we'll have a 2-1 situation tomorrow. Or does I (once again) miss something elementary?

Well.

If we hit scum.

That's 2 town and 1 sk left.

At night.

That will change.

Suppose cm is the sk.

Eogrim is the townie along with me.

Cm will hit me.

I will protect you, but i can't protect myself.

It's almost game over.

At this point, it's either a scum win or a sk victory.

Exactly. once the night action is submitted, town loses.

 

I'm pretty sure MK is the other scum/sk. It was a well played game, but town's time is numbered at this point

I am definitely not scum or sk

 

Lol, if velocity turns out town, and you two are the remaining factions

It would be pretty dope.

 

Let's play that one out.

Velocity turns out town.

 

Cm is scum.

Eogrim is sk (or vice versa).

 

Then you have to make a critical decision.

 

If cm decides to use his kill on me, then eogrim will kill cm.

Eogrim wins.

If they target each other, then town wins.

 

If they both target me, then TW will be fucked.

It would be a draw.

 

So for the sake of bothering tw, may i propose that we come out?

I want a draw.

Ah, I see now where I went wrong! I haven’t watched any of TW’s previous games, and thought therefore it might be a possibility that the doc could self-protect..

 

So for the sake of bothering tw, may i propose that we come out?

I want a draw.

Doesn’t seem like anyone’s interested, MK. Should we then just call it a day. If I get no response I’ll vote for Velocity as well.

Nah, in no other games, could the doctor self protect.

 

But that being said, this game has been weird enough.

So maybe, i can self protect.

I haven't used that ability.

I’ve been leaning a lot on mafiawiki when preparing for and playing this game to make up for my inexperience.

The wiki says that some moderators allow it. I thought it meant that you would’ve been informed if it where allowed.

 

Anyways, let’s get this over with already.

 

Vote: Velocity

Velocity (George Howard Skub aka The Scranton Strangler), has been arrested on day 5.

 

 

Vote Count

 

Velocity (3): Lord MK, Colonel Medved, Eogrim

 

 

It is now night 5. Please PM me any night actions in your personal role PM by 2:00pm server time on Tuesday, July 9th.