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[Canik]

I was kinda suspicious of TW trying to get a gangbang going but not whipping his out first. Wait, where did The Warrior vote, because he's not listed anywhere xD

If various sanities are a possibility tho, that does complicate things. I'm not entirely sold TW is scum minus the investigation.

It is interesting that scum did not kill Velocity who had claimed cop. Velocity *feels* legit to me, but it could be he was going to be lynched D1 so they are using this strategy to delay, get extra kills in, get a mislynch in. It's a possibility.

[Rhizoctonia]

I'm going to stir the pot a bit.

 

I too am a cop.  

 

 

For those who don't know, that's me, Johnny Sins

 

 

Anyway, I too got a guilty result last night, on SBG.

 

I am not doubting your RC Velocity, as to fake RC cop is a ballsy move to make D1 especially knowing there's likely a cop.  But now we get into sanities, and if one is legit or one has a different sanity, or both are normal sanities and we found 2 scum.

 

I checked SBG because his odd response by getting votes for being the lowest vote count yesterday.  

 

So we need to choose who, but in this case, I'm gonna pick who I found as guilty and we'll see what happens

 

Vote:  SBG

I was kinda suspicious of TW trying to get a gangbang going but not whipping his out first. Wait, where did The Warrior vote, because he's not listed anywhere xD

If various sanities are a possibility tho, that does complicate things. I'm not entirely sold TW is scum minus the investigation.

It is interesting that scum did not kill Velocity who had claimed cop. Velocity *feels* legit to me, but it could be he was going to be lynched D1 so they are using this strategy to delay, get extra kills in, get a mislynch in. It's a possibility.

 

 

There are things called doctors, and likely knew he would be protected.  

[Nadarr]

I'm willing to believe the child's claim. However, TW has made a good case for himself by pointing out that sanity is at play in this game.

 

As for Rhiz, I don't really believe in a second RC. As much as I love voting SBG I can't bring myself to.

[The Warrior]

I voted for Velocity yesterday because according to Brewers someone was going to die one way or another, either through lynch or a mod-kill. We've now seen that that was inaccurate because Brewers apparently opted not to mod-kill someone thankfully.

 

After Velocity role claimed, I unvoted because I'd much rather give him the benefit of the doubt on that claim, especially when he wasn't immediately counter claimed. It looks like Brewers forgot to include me as "Not voting" in the final vote count of the day.

 

The fact that Brewers listed the "Various Sanities" bit in the rules basically confirms that he's using something irregular here. I just went back and looked at BA's previous games. The only time sanities are mentioned in any of his listed rules are from the Clash of Kings game where he specifically states that ALL roles are sane:

 

 

A few more things...

• All roles are sane

 

None of his other games mention sanities at all. So the fact that this game says that various sanities may be present is a pretty dead giveaway that at least one person's role is altered.

 

I know that there has to be something going on because Velocity's result on me is 100% inaccurate.

[Canik]

There are things called doctors, and likely knew he would be protected.

Good point.

@Nadarr -
"As for Rhiz, I don't really believe in a second RC. " < - why not?

[The Warrior]

And it looks like Rhizo role claimed as a Cop while I was posting as well.. Interesting.

 

I'm not doubting either cop claim but now we really have to tread carefully because multiple cops basically confirms that at least one of them has a sanity modifier. Given the fact that I know Velocity received an inaccurate result on me, it's most likely that Velocity has a sanity modifier which makes Rhizo's claimed result more likely to be true (although it doesn't guarantee it yet).

 

@SBG - What do you have to say for yourself?

[Rafay]

Kevin H, Mia Khalifa, a Vanilla Porn Star contracted herpes and was fired N1  

 

Oh my God!! Hahahahah      . Kevin can't act for shit though. 

 

What's going on 2 cops?!! Why you guys are trying to confuse everyone??

[Lord MK]

Damn.
We lost Mia.
And Bridget is banging Johnny sins.
That's something, i tell you

[KevinH]

Kevin H, Mia Khalifa, a Vanilla Porn Star contracted herpes and was fired N1

 
Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! Oh! ...

I guess I really got the Iron Rod.

[Colonel Medved]

Kevin H, Mia Khalifa, a Vanilla Porn Star contracted herpes and was fired N1

 

 

 

Not Mia! she was to young (and hot) to die

 

With the two cops out and claiming scum, it seems we have two options. I'm going to hold off for the time being, due to the sanities in play i don't want to make the wrong choice. I will vote before deadline but will hold off on it until i look into some more research

[Nadarr]

Honestly, idk. I feel it weird with so few players to have cops. I honestly believe one of them is lying. I might be wrong, wont be the first time or the last, but as it stands I am not sure who to believe. Obviously eyes are going to be on TW and SBG. But we should also keep an eye on both Velocity and Rhiz. False RC happen all the time.

[Canik]

We should probably lynch one of the ppl they claim they got guilty on. TW or SBG

That should give us the most info, right? 

[Rafay]

We should probably lynch one of the ppl they claim they got guilty on. TW or SBG That should give us the most info, right? 

 

This is a reasonable idea. 

[OOC] Come on people. Show your comrades some respect and nominate them for the awards they deserve.

 

https://ironcentral.org/community/topic/63287-scummies-2019-nominations/

[The Warrior]

I’ve already said my peace. I know that velocity’s result on me was incorrect. He is either being affected by a sanity or he is lying.

@SBG - you also have a guilty result on you. If either of the cops results is accurate, it has to be Rhizo’s. What do you have to say for yourself?

[Nadarr]

I have no clue who to believe. TW is the only one defending himself; however based on personal experience in this game I don't believe a single word TW says..for now I will try to trust him. Because I am going with TW at face value I will also have to believe Rhi's RC and throw my weight on that gangbang.

 

Vote: SBG

[Canik]

I don't believe a single word TW says

Understandable, he is extremely good at faking town. However, the one time I pushed for him to be lynched, he ended up actually being town. xD and he may be this time as well. He's doing well defending himself.

I would and will vote SBG too with how things stand.

[SeaBeeGipson]

Well why would a cop come out and claim their results on D2?

I know I'm town and I'm actually not thinking of a insane modifier nor a tailor, but potentially Rhizo is a jester. Theres funny stuff going on in the sheet and Brewers has added jesters before.

Fake claim a result D2, get me lynched, then gets lynched D3 and wins as hes a jester.

Of course he could be a cop (I doubt we have 2 cops in the midst) and a tailor hit me, or I have a hidden modifier showing im guilty.

I dont know what to say really except I know I'm town and lynching me will only bring us 1 townie down

[Rhizoctonia]

Brewers took major slack for putting a jester in a game before, do you really think he would put it again.

 

 

Why would I come out D2 with results?  Because quite simply,  got a guilty on you which is good enough in my book, and I think the worst thing a Cop can do is die with such information.  Very likely that if Velocity is a cop (which I believe his claim), he's likely to be continuously protected if there's a cop, and scum will look outside him to kill in order to kill the doctor (unless they have a strongman) and that leaves me with the possibility of being killed.   

 

I felt it odd when Velocity RC'd cop, since I'm one.  I thought about RC'ing D1 countering him, but for him to claim cop as his role if he isn't would be a pretty ballsy and doubt scum would do that.  So I changed vote, and let see what comes at D2.  When Velocity got a guilty result, and I too got one, I felt as well that is was beneficial to town to know given one of us may have some odd modifier on our cop role, and better to figure out who it maybe is instead of going off Velocity's guilty result and possibly mislynch a town if it's him with a modifier.  That and it will surely make it interesting who Scum will now try to kill at night, given they have two cops to pick from and possibly a doctor to protect one....pick the wrong one and scum misses out on a kill.  If we can figure out who might be the non modifier cop and who has the modifier, and what the modifier is, we have the ability to produce 2 results a day on who is and isn't scum.   

 

I'm putting my money on SBG being scum from his responses, but people can choose how they want, but do think we need to target one of the two.  

[Canik]

Brewers took major slack for putting a jester in a game before, do you really think he would put it again.

Yes, I do. We're talking about the guy who @everyones even though he's been kicked and yelled at and all that. xD

You make some decent points in the rest of your post tho.

[Colonel Medved]

It seems to have gotten pretty quiet in here. I'm one to talk i suppose lol

 

It's definitely a hard choice for the day. Who knows if any sanities are in play between the two cops. TW comes across more town than SBG does, but like someone mentioned before; TW is good at it. Something about SBG keeps me thinking that him being scum could be very possible, his response didn't reassure me in any way as apposed to TW's responses thus far.

 

Something i found upon further inspection does seem off though, with the day ending without a lynch yesterday. Brewers mentioned that there would be a death if someone didn't hit deadline. 

 

As it stands, if no one is lynched, one of these 7 will be randomly mod killed Colonel Medved 7 Eogrim 5 Rafay 5 Jazzy95 4 Rhizoctonia 4 SeaBeeGipson 3

 

In the day end flavor text, it features Johnny Sin coming in a close call. So it seems Rhizo was selected randomly for the mod kill, but survived. Does that mean he had a lynchproof shot? Was that one of your abilities Rhizoctonia?

 

Johnny Sins was going at it from behind with Bridget the midget. Mid thrust, the bed broke, and Johnny Sins fell. "Fuck" screened Dirty Randy. He saw Johnny Sins fall right towards a sharp metal rod. It totally would kill him... He thought.