In the peaceful Sicilian village of Salem, a dark presence is about to make itself known. For years, the family based crime organization known as the Mafia has been establishing itself in the foundation of the community. Until now, the naive citizens have been unaware of the evil among them. Tonight, however, the Mafia makes its move. Tonight, someone will die, and until the Mafia has eliminated all opposition, the innocent will continue to die. Unless, of course, the Mafia is destroyed first…
But wait! Another threat to the town emerges. COVID-19 is also in the town.
Can the town survive both threats?

Players
Brewersalliance
Canik
Colonel Medved
Dontavian
FireMuun
iSocialism
Lord MK
Lyner
Nadarr
Rafay
Robert2424
The Warrior
Torres951
Velocity

Rules
The following roles (or combinations thereof, including modifiers) may be used in this game.

Alignment-Changing
Cult Leader
Goomaker (Target someone to make them take on Goo ability)
Deprogrammer
Goo (any color) 
Underdog (When the first Day death occurs, adopts the alignment of the dead player. Starts as Survivor)

Communicative
Fruit Vendor
Tree Stump

Deceptive
Evangelistic Townie (Investigates as Cult)
Gravedigger (Shows up as targeting all nightkilled players to Trackers and Watchers on night of said players' deaths)
Mafia Godfather
Mafia Ninja
Miller
Wrong Place at the Wrong Time Townie (Universal Miller)

Investigative
Bloodhound (Gets result "Town" or "Not Town")
Cop (Gets result “Mafia” or “Not Mafia”)
Private Investigator (Gets result "Cult" or "Not Cult")
Follower
Motion Detector
Tracker
Voyeur 
Watcher

Killing
Goon 
Paranoid Gun Owner
Vigilante

Linked
Nurse
Universal Backup

 

Manipulative
Ascetic
Commuter
Jailkeeper
Roleblocker
Rolestopper

Protective
Alarmist
Bodyguard
Doctor
Reviver

Unpowered
Survivor
Tourist (Compulsively targets someone every night. No effect)
Vanilla Townie

Modifiers
Backup
Bulletproof
Compulsive
Cult
Deathproof
Even/Odd Night
Lynchproof
Mafia
Non-Consecutive Night
Weak
X-Shot

 

• This game contains Town, Mafia, and Infected (Cult) factions.
• During the Day phase, each player may speak and vote inthread.
• If a player receives the majority of the available votes during the Day, they are lynched.
• At deadline, a player with half-majority will be lynched; the first player to reach the most votes over half-majority will be lynched in the event of a tie.
• You may vote No Lynch.
• Players that are lynched or night-killed will become Tree Stumps where they can still post but not vote.
• This is a No-Reveal Game but Tree Stumps will be identified.
• After the Day, the game goes to Night.
• The game thread is closed during the Night. The Mafia may speak to each other Day and Night.
• All Active Roles may submit actions via PM at Night.
• The Mafia can, as a faction, kill one player at Night.
• After the Night, the game goes to Day.
• Basic rules for maintaining the integrity of the game thread are in effect (i.e. players may not quote their Role PMs, nor may they discuss the game outside the game thread unless otherwise permitted, etc.)
• Mass role-claiming is not allowed
• Players may role-claim if they have something interesting to share or if they become a Tree Stump; they do not have to tell the truth
• Infecteds will not generally know each other.
• Mafia that become Infected will show as Infected to investigations but will retain the original Mafia win condition.
• Townies that are Infected will win with the Infected faction.

Game Days will last half as many real-life days as there are players alive
Game Nights will last 24 hours; actions may be sent early if desired.

 

Lyner, on 02 May 2020 - 13:47, said: I have evangelistic modifier, so I'd return infected when investigated. I'm not infected yet

 

This is false my friend. You don't have this modifier!! Because I do....or does everyone have it?

He is lying, rafay.

Just remember that.

 

• Mafia that become Infected will show as Infected to investigations but will retain the original Mafia win condition.

 

 

Mafia can become infected and will count toward the Cult's win condition but will not win with the Cult.

Vote Count

Lyner (2): Lord MK, iSocialism,
Rafay (1): Canik,
Lord MK (1): Lyner,
Velocity (0):
Colonel Medved (0):
Nadarr (0):
Torres951 (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Canik (0):
The Warrior (0):
iSocialism (0):
 
No-Lynch (0):

Not Voting: Velocity, Colonel Medved, Rafay, Nadarr, The Warrior, Torres951, Brewersalliance,

Tree Stumps: Robert2424, Dontavian, SealTeamPi,
 

With 11 alive it take 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, May 7, at 19:00 EDT .
 

I’m not saying Lyner has the modifier or not but of course Rafay would claim he has it if we follow the idea that he’s the cult leader.

 

 

I’m not saying Lyner has the modifier or not but of course Rafay would claim he has it if we follow the idea that he’s the cult leader.

 

Why just assume only one idea??

 

There could be a possible savior or reviver can it not be?? 

Think about it, this is a no reveal game. With scum side alone town is already in a difficult position, add cult into the mix and odds are super stacked against town.

 

There is no way town side aren't given a cop. Bloodhound & private investigator are too fragile for catching scum.

 

Also there goes Rafay. Want to lynch him first?

 

 

@lyner, what were your exact results on your targets, word for word?

 

I'm pretty sure we are all still waiting on this, or did I miss it?

 

MK has made a really great case against you Lyner. Your story is shaky at best. Help yourself here and answer Brewers question please. Until then I am inclined to vote with MK.

 

Vote: Lyner

Think about it, this is a no reveal game. With scum side alone town is already in a difficult position, add cult into the mix and odds are super stacked against town.

 

There is no way town side aren't given a cop. Bloodhound & private investigator are too fragile for catching scum.

 

Also there goes Rafay. Want to lynch him first?

We don't need a cop role in this game.

 

The cop in this game is not the cop in usual games. It's not as powerful as those.

You are trying to sell the idea that the cop is the most important role, when it is clearly not.

 

 

Also, nice try throwing mud on rafay.

Hoping that we will let you go one more day, eh?

 

@lyner, what were your exact results on your targets, word for word?

 

I'm pretty sure we are all still waiting on this, or did I miss it?

 

MK has made a really great case against you Lyner. Your story is shaky at best. Help yourself here and answer Brewers question please. Until then I am inclined to vote with MK.

 

Vote: Lyner

 

 

I already did. CM, TW, and Canik are "not Mafia"

 

 

 

Think about it, this is a no reveal game. With scum side alone town is already in a difficult position, add cult into the mix and odds are super stacked against town.

 

There is no way town side aren't given a cop. Bloodhound & private investigator are too fragile for catching scum.

 

Also there goes Rafay. Want to lynch him first?

We don't need a cop role in this game.

 

The cop in this game is not the cop in usual games. It's not as powerful as those.

You are trying to sell the idea that the cop is the most important role, when it is clearly not.

 

 

Also, nice try throwing mud on rafay.

Hoping that we will let you go one more day, eh?

Says the infected bloodhound.

Well, atleast i have come clean.

 

And also, what a way to go down from somewhat logical arguements to just brute attacks.

 

@lyner, what were your exact results on your targets, word for word?

I'm pretty sure we are all still waiting on this, or did I miss it?

 

MK has made a really great case against you Lyner. Your story is shaky at best. Help yourself here and answer Brewers question please. Until then I am inclined to vote with MK.

 

Vote: Lyner

 

Well,.he did say it.

But he has changed that story more times than you can count.

He first said that TW was town. Cm is town

Then Canik is town.

 

Then when exposed, he shifted to TW is not mafia.

Cm is not mafia.

Canik is not mafia.

He has been giving contradictions after contradictions.

Alright I'm gonna disengage now, MK keeps repeating stuffs to confuse town. 

 

This is the summary for you lazy townies:

 

I'm an evangelistic cop (I will return "Infected" when investigated, despite my town status). I was forced to RC on day 2. At that point I only know that TW is not mafia, and because it won't help town in any fashion if I claimed cop that early, I decided to keep it ambiguous by claiming 'Investigative Role' instead of 'Cop'. Brewers assumed that I'm bloodhound and some of you took that as fact.

 

At this point, if I said TW is "not Mafia" everyone will know that I'm a cop, scums included. Which means I'd be dead on N2.

 

Day 3 arrived, I got the result that CM is "not Mafia". So being the undercover cop I am, I continue stating that CM is Town. Torres claimed that CM is infected. I trusted Torres since it doesn't contradict my result, hence I started the wagon on CM. MK was trying to kill Nadarr instead of CM at this point, I wonder why.

 

Day 4 arrived, I got the result that Canik is "not Mafia". MK started the day by saying that I'm "not town" and torres saying that I'm "infected". This is consistent with my "Evangelistic" modifier. Note that I confessed that I have evangelistic modifier before Torres says that I'm infected. After Torres's claim now I'm forced to RC my true role: Cop. MK claimed that he was infected, would a townie that's infected confesses like that?

 

So far nobody challenged my cop status.

 

You need both investigator and bloodhound to confirm if someone is scum (one to confirm "not Town", and one to confirm "not infected"). If one of them dies then we have no way of knowing who is scum without a cop, think about that. A town cop is pretty much a given.

 

tl;dr I'm an undercover cop trying my best to hide from scums, and MK's behaviour is sketchy as hell

"an evangelistic cop (I will return "Infected" when investigated, despite my town status)."

 

Nope, that's not how Kevin says it in the role PM.

He uses a different wording.

So that's misrepresentation right there.

 

"At this point, if I said TW is "not Mafia" everyone will know that I'm a cop, scums included. Which means I'd be dead on N2."

 

Well, it doesn't matter.

Town needs to eliminate both factions.

So the bloodhound is as valuable as a cop.

And bloodhound also eliminates who's scum, either way.

Bloodhound returns town or not town.

It's true that people who returned town may turn up infected down the road.

But they will never become scum

Town can only become infected, there's no path for a townie to become mafia.

So your reasoning that you were trying to hide is just baseless.

I would also like to invoke "Lynch all liars" at this point.

Brewers and iSoc may be infected now, but they are definitely not scum.

So a bloodhound is i would say, better than a cop from the town's perspective.

Since a cop would never know if a target is cult.

But I would have known if they were anti-town on that particular night.

 

"MK was trying to kill Nadarr instead of CM at this point, I wonder why."

I always try to kill her every game.

But the main thing is i didn't push it hard enough to kill her.

Also i didn't trust your findings on CM enough to chase that wagon. But i allowed it by not pushing nadarr hard as it was Torres who was the final true investigator.

I trusted his findings as he has been consistent so far.

 

"Note that I confessed that I have evangelistic modifier before Torres says that I'm infected."

Well, after my intial accusation, you obviously built that story to find a way out of that.

 

"MK claimed that he was infected, would a townie that's infected confesses like that?"

Well, I'm not town now, am I?

It's not a claim neither, it's a fact.

Look. The enemy of both town and infected is the scum.

Scum can kill.

Infected may infect.

There's a lot of roles, some of which already has been revealed to stop the spread and as well to get back people from the infected.

But not a lot of roles to stop the kill.

 

"If one of them dies then we have no way of knowing who is scum without a cop, think about that."

You are trying to escape by making this a life-or-death situation. It's not.

 

 

"I'm an undercover cop trying my best to hide from scums"

 

You are a scum desperate to hang on.

 

 

At this point, if I said TW is "not Mafia" everyone will know that I'm a cop, scums included. Which means I'd be dead on N2.

 

 

yeah but you implied bloodhound, which is even more powerful than cop and could out the mafia the exact same way as a regular cop, so by that logic they would be just as motivated to kill u. 

You need both investigator and bloodhound to confirm if someone is scum (one to confirm "not Town", and one to confirm "not infected"). If one of them dies then we have no way of knowing who is scum without a cop, think about that. A town cop is pretty much a given.

 

this is also wrong.  A PI would confirm infected or not and a cop just confirms mafia not scum.  A bloodhound gets the results of town or not town.  which is exactly what u acted like at the start of the game

 

I just dont get your logic.  You are acting like a cop, which cannot detect the infected, is more valuable than a bloodhound, which detects both infected and mafia, and fully determines if they are town or not.

 

you straight up were saying players are town.  If you were a normal cop like you claim, you would have no clue if they were town or not.  all you would know is they are not mafia.  i just dont get your logic behind this.   what you did would have made u a bigger target, not a smaller one.  

and its just pretty convenient when called out on your flawed claims in the past you go "oh i mean scum is jut mafia"  when scum is ALL non town factions.  you might be town, but your actions and logic just do not follow or make sense.  and MK is not swaying me here, ive actually been avoiding reading his posts cause his claiming infected makes no sense to me either, and he is an anti town role for sure.  but at the same time, your actions and words make even less sense to me

 

either way, we win with killing all the scum: mafia and cult/infected.

 

We know for sure MK is scum since he admitted it,  Lyner could be scum or a townie with just flawed logic

 

we can kill either the confirmed scum or the suspected one.

 

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush

 

Vote MK

 

also @CM:  dude where are you, you need to clarify some shit for us.  

Is this what all mafia games end up turning into?

Is this what all mafia games end up turning into?

what do you mean?

 

Is this what all mafia games end up turning into?

what do you mean?

 

I feel like I'm watching a telenovela. The accusations, the cover stories, the DRAMA! I love it!

sometimes, yes

also random crazy theory time. Torres is the Cult Leader.  thats how he knows who is infected or not infected and he decided to rat out CM to gain the trust of the town.  

Sorry for the silence on my end everyone, i'm in the process of being replaced. This will be my final post.

 

I'm not sure when the replacement will happen, but i figured i might as well give some clarity. The RC i used was half true. I was indeed infected on N2, the same night i targeted STP and found he used a protective action.

 

So in recap,

 

N1 i targeted brewers, who used a protective action

 

N2 i targeted STP, who also used a protective action. But sadly i was also infected that night. 

 

N3 i was revived by someone.

 

Good luck town!

 

At this point, if I said TW is "not Mafia" everyone will know that I'm a cop, scums included. Which means I'd be dead on N2.

 

 

yeah but you implied bloodhound, which is even more powerful than cop and could out the mafia the exact same way as a regular cop, so by that logic they would be just as motivated to kill u. 

 

Disagree, bloodhound is totally useless when used alone as we can't determine which guy is mafia. From MK & CM's testimony we can conclude that cult can recruit everyday. This means as each day passes bloodhound's accuracy for getting a mafia also decreases. The end result is we can't distinguish between mafia and infected.

 

And mafia is far more dangerous. We will still lose even if we are all getting infected, as we can't determine which guy is mafia without cop. They can slowly kill us.

 

inb4 MK saying that I'm suggesting town to just get infected 

Sorry for the silence on my end everyone, i'm in the process of being replaced. This will be my final post.

 

I'm not sure when the replacement will happen, but i figured i might as well give some clarity. The RC i used was half true. I was indeed infected on N2, the same night i targeted STP and found he used a protective action.

 

So in recap,

 

N1 i targeted brewers, who used a protective action

 

N2 i targeted STP, who also used a protective action. But sadly i was also infected that night. 

 

N3 i was revived by someone.

 

Good luck town!

See ya!

 

Also now that I think about it how can town win if cult can recruit every single day. Did MK lie about him being infected at N3? 

 

 

Also now that I think about it how can town win if cult can recruit every single day. Did MK lie about him being infected at N3? 

 

 

there are roles that can bring back cult members, there are roles that can stop infections and there are revival roles for tree stumps.

 

and i disagree, we need to kill ALL scum not just mafia.   even if u get a result as non mafia that person could still be anti town.  so even using your logic, the way you framed your results hurts town.  you claimed your investigations were confirmed to be town.  but thats not true.  you have zero knowledge of it they are town or not town.  

 

plus u got a town on CM when he was infected and CM straight up admitted to being infected so that definitively shows the shortcomings of your strategy and is why it makes me question your honesty.  If torres never came out and contradicted you, we would have been operating under the assumption that CM is confirmed town, when in fact all you really knew was he was not a member of the mafia.  i just dont understand why you would mislead the town.  because thats what you were doing.  even if you think Cop is more powerful, you still were misleading the town by telling us the roles came back as town and are confirmed town, because based on being a cop, you cannot confirm anyone you investigated is town. 

 

question for kevin:  if the cop investigates a member of the mafia and that member was infected by the cult, would they show up as not mafia since they are now in the cult or mafia since they still have the mafia win condition?  

 

if kevin says they would be not mafia since they are in the cult then that further decreases the value and makes this even more perplexing to me.  

and you said you were hiding from the mafia since as a cop they would want to kill you.  well as a bloodhound why would they want to kill u less?  a result of "mafia" or "not town"  would have the same damning effect and end up in that person being lynched, so how does hiding your role actually protect you?  All it did was cause a misconception that the people you investigated were town and not of any type of scum faction

 

Either way, MK is an admitted scum so he should be lynched.  but I am just finding it hard to trust your claim, as hiding the truth does not really benefit town in any way

Infected Mafia have Duality. They will appear as Infected (Cult) and also as Mafia, depending on who does the investigation.  There is not a Role Cop in this game, but if there was they would get both roles.

Vote Count

Lyner (3): Lord MK, iSocialism, Nadarr,
Lord MK (2): Lyner, Brewersalliance,
Rafay (1): Canik,
Velocity (0):
Colonel Medved (0):
Nadarr (0):
Torres951 (0):
Brewersalliance (0):
Canik (0):
The Warrior (0):
iSocialism (0):
 
No-Lynch (0):

Not Voting: Velocity, Colonel Medved, Rafay, The Warrior, Torres951,

Tree Stumps: Robert2424, Dontavian, SealTeamPi,
 

With 11 alive it take 6 to lynch or 3 at deadline.
Deadline is Thursday, May 7, at 19:00 EDT .
 
 

also random crazy theory time. Torres is the Cult Leader

Now THIS would add some flare to the story!

 

Also...

Vote: Lyner

If we lynch Lyner, we still wouldn't know if he is telling the truth or not.

 

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but we only know MK as infected. The other one, if any, is not known. CM was, but died and came backed cleaned.

 

So would it be better for STP, to be revived and then the de programmer to hit MK?

Is this what all mafia games end up turning into?

Pretty much. xD