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[RO-03]Dawn of Justice - Mafia + Survivor Victory

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You pretty much claimed that Velocity is scum, with just the vague indication of items.

Excuse me for wanting to know more, so that we don't lynch a potential townie.

And you are lucky that Velocity had a bad defence and that he flipped sk.

 

And also FoS to everyone else on Velocity.

You were too damn quick to lynch someone.

 

Velocity was a SK, so not scum.

So scum wouldn't have naturally thought that a townie was being lynched.

A sk is rare in any game.

So after you pushed Velocity, atleast one of them would have got on the wagon.

 

And the most suspicious: Rafay

He knew that it would be a hammer.

So we are talking either scum or the Joker.

Which is a word that many would choose to associate with rafay.

 

The people who stayed off, are not scummy

Most of them, including me, wanted to make sure that the day wasn't being cut short so soon.

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I'm back guys. There is wayyyyy to much stuff for me to scroll back and read thru while I was MIA

 

So I'mma quote the late great KevinH

 

"Somebody knows something"

Wait, so Kevin had been given 2 vig shots? I'm assuming neither of them were used then and are now gone?

 

Also between the doctor getting killed and Robert basically role claiming for me in his flavor text, I'll just go ahead and confirm that I am Batman, with the ability to target a player and take an item from them that relates to their character in some way. Unfortunately I was role blocked again, so I'm basically useless until scum either finds a new target or just kills me. Hopefully I've given cover for someone else to be more useful though.

 

I'll start off the new day by pointing a finger at anyone who didn't vote for Velocity, but especially the people who pushed for me to fully RC instead of interrogate Velocity's response to my evidence: TW, Nadarr, and MK.

Also the question about Kevin's secret condition is directed towards the mod, just to clarify that that is how we're supposed to interpret that information.

Kevin is dead so he can't use the vig shots anyways

 

 

I think there were what? Only 12 players to start this game? So I'm guessing that means we have 2 mafia and the sk. I think 3 mafia plus and SK would be a bit too much for town to handle im terms of balance. So I do think it's most likely 2 mafia left. Could be wrong but at the moment that's what im thinking. Let's get another scum tonight so we can be on a hot streak

Hmm, I've never heard of the SK role before so I just assumed it was mafia aligned, but you're right that it's its own alignment, so scum wouldn't have had a reason to outright protect him. Thanks for pointing that out.

if you are mafia, voting for velocity would have been a smart play.  lww gave solid evidence as to why we should vote velocity, and if you are mafia, you would know he isnt on your team, so they would get a free lynch of a townie and when he flipped town they could just say they voted based on lww's evidence and not draw too much suspicion.  

 

so lets look at the wagon

 

 

 

10. (5) Velocity (KevinH, lilwierdward, Brewers, lyner, Rafay
 

 

TOWN:

me: inactive as fuck but town.  I stated right away someone tried to kill me, which meant we most likely had two killing factions.  my guess was it was velocity who tried to kill me n1.  it would only be fair since ive had a hard on for lynching him.

Kevin:  Dead and confirmed town

 

Suspects:

Lyner: im tpo inactive to judge them

Rafay:im too inactivre to judge him

LWW :  he s not confirmed town.  He claimed batman.  Batman is the worlds billed as the worlds greatest detective.  So it seems to reason batman would be a cop.  The name does not fit the role/power.  LWW says he can take an item from someone.  How does stealing something from a player = Batman?  That makes no sense.  Flavor is super important in this game.  It just does not fit the role.  Batman would be a risky fake claim, UNLESS he was given it as a safe claim.  however, I also feel that the flavor does back up batman found the gloves and thus got velocity

 

And after reading the flavor again im pretty sure we have two mafia, Joker and Deathstroke (since they are constantly mentioned in the flavor)

 

Either way, id be willing to wager one of our scum is in that group of three

WOOOOOO!!!

 

No villain scum or SK is winning on my watch.

 

I don't care what anyone says especially Lord MK. How dare you blame me for doing the right thing. I though he was scum thats y i voted. He flipped SK even better I guess. You were actually supporting him. You WERE SUPPORTING ad Anti Town role!!! Do you realize the damage you can cause. Get behind lww he's helping the twon win unless you don't want that 

 

I'm interested in what lilweirdward discovered today. Please share if possible. I'm totally behind you.

 

 

 

 

so lets look at the wagon

 

By that standard KevinH was scum too luckily he's dead. Same thing will happen with me. I'm town 

 

 

By that standard KevinH was scum too luckily he's dead. Same thing will happen with me. I'm town 

 

i didnt say everyone was scum on it, i said scum is most likely on it

 

FoS Rafay 

WOOOOOO!!!

 

No villain scum or SK is winning on my watch.

 

I don't care what anyone says especially Lord MK. How dare you blame me for doing the right thing. I though he was scum thats y i voted. He flipped SK even better I guess. You were actually supporting him. You WERE SUPPORTING ad Anti Town role!!! Do you realize the damage you can cause. Get behind lww he's helping the twon win unless you don't want that

 

I'm interested in what lilweirdward discovered today. Please share if possible. I'm totally behind you.

 

 

so lets look at the wagon

By that standard KevinH was scum too luckily he's dead. Same thing will happen with me. I'm town

You didn't do the right thing.

You just jumped on the hammer like you do pretty all the time.

You have a hammer fetish.

 

Yeah right, i was supporting a sk.

If Velocity flipped mafia, then sure. I can be called scum then.

if I was scum, i could have easily voted Velocity.

1) I always try to get Velocity lynched, so i could easily play it off as usual me.

2) if i was scum, i would think "oo, those dumb townies are going to lynch a townie, let's support the lynch".

 

The only reason why i didn't vote for Velocity, in spite of my reservations against keeping him alive, is cause i feared that the wagon was forming way too fast and that someone like rafay would pounce as soon as they get a chance.

 

 

Also, lww most likely is town, but the way he went about revealing the information about Velocity was a bit off.

 

 

Yes, it's dangerous play to fake claim, but that haven't stopped anyone from fake claiming before.

lww, can you clarify what your role PM states/actually does.  are you stealing an item or what?

 

I finally figured out that my role PM almost exactly matches up with the definition of a Flavor Cop, since my ability is to take an item from someone each night that tells me about their character (i.e. flavor). I'm pretty sure I'm not a thief since the items don't have anything to do with roles or abilities (i.e. I don't think the gloves meant anything other than being a reference to Darkseid as a flavor character).

 

 

The name does not fit the role/power.  LWW says he can take an item from someone.  How does stealing something from a player = Batman?  That makes no sense.

 

 

 

Yeah I actually agree lol, it feels kind of underwhelming to the character of Batman, but I guess it could be pretty helpful in pinpointing alignments accurately based on my ability to interpret what the items mean.

 

 

I'm interested in what lilweirdward discovered today. Please share if possible. I'm totally behind you.

 

 

I was role-blocked again, and the bit about taking items from people who visited me was a bluff to try to get mafia to stop role-blocking me lol, so I have nothing new to add, unfortunately.  

 

lww, can you clarify what your role PM states/actually does.  are you stealing an item or what?

 

I finally figured out that my role PM almost exactly matches up with the definition of a Flavor Cop, since my ability is to take an item from someone each night that tells me about their character (i.e. flavor). I'm pretty sure I'm not a thief since the items don't have anything to do with roles or abilities (i.e. I don't think the gloves meant anything other than being a reference to Darkseid as a flavor character).

 

 

The name does not fit the role/power.  LWW says he can take an item from someone.  How does stealing something from a player = Batman?  That makes no sense.

 

 

 

Yeah I actually agree lol, it feels kind of underwhelming to the character of Batman, but I guess it could be pretty helpful in pinpointing alignments accurately based on my ability to interpret what the items mean.

 

 

I'm interested in what lilweirdward discovered today. Please share if possible. I'm totally behind you.

 

 

I was role-blocked again, and the bit about taking items from people who visited me was a bluff to try to get mafia to stop role-blocking me lol, so I have nothing new to add, unfortunately.  

 

OKAY thank you for the clarification.  I do think you are town

 

i think its very likely either rafay or lyner is scum

 

 

i think its very likely either rafay or lyner is scum

 

How many scum have you fond? I've actually helped to lynch an anti-town guy

 

Also the ppl who lynched saved the town from  mods consequences. Unlike you and Lord mk who actually wanted the mod to kill someone or hurt town. 

 

It had to be done. Lynch was meant to happen. Better an SK than townie. But it saved a townie on that day.

 

i think its very likely either rafay or lyner is scum

How many scum have you fond? I've actually helped to lynch an anti-town guy

 

Also the ppl who lynched saved the town from mods consequences. Unlike you and Lord mk who actually wanted the mod to kill someone or hurt town.

I just want to point out that brewers was one of the people who voted for Velocity too (although I'm like 99% sure he meant it as a joke since he was still unofficially being replaced at that point), and has been begging people to lynch someone since Day 1, so trying to paint him as anti lynch of all things is kind of ridiculous lol.

Yesterday went too fast with Rafay hammering the wagon

 

Regarding Joker and Slade, with our SK that means 3 scum factions. We haven't seen much NK in this game, perhaps Joker is actually clown?

 

 

No lol it was actually a legit vote. I read up on the game saw you had evidence and voted for him lol

 

My reason is actually the same but somehow I'm the bad guy?

 

 

 

Regarding Joker and Slade, with our SK that means 3 scum factions. We haven't seen much NK in this game, perhaps Joker is actually clown?

 

Maybe they have modifiers like 1 faction can kill at even night and other at odd 

Lol now there are too many people jumping on the "oH nO THE lYncH wENT too faST" train. Rafay is getting a bit too defensive but come on, we hadn't lynched anyone in 2 days and Velocity basically didn't even put up a fight lol. It's starting to feel like people are latching on because it's an easy narrative to hide in rather than actually seriously having a problem with the lynch.

Post count

 

Lord MK 59

brewersalliance 53

lilweirdward 51

Rafay 46 - hiding in the middle; scum

Nadarr 31 - Nadarr, duh

Lyner 29 - lying

Torres951 18 - dead

The Warrior 18 - inactive af

 

So right now, we can either lynch the one who ended a whole fricking day way too soon or either of Torres or tw.

I mean, they are pretty much not playing.

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Crazy theory.

What if Joker is not scum?

After seeing the Joaquin phoenix movie, i actually find Joker to be like a Loki-Han Solo fusion.

A little mischievous, but good inside.

 

So Joker could be like a survivor.

(From the phrase unstoppable force; aka a survivor who has to survive (or not stop) till the end of the game)

 

In the Christopher Nolan batman movies, he never wants to kill batman, as Batman's too fun.

 

 

So wild, but might explain the lack of double kills so far.

Or there's a certain condition to be fulfilled before chaos breaks, just like Kevin's role

 

Doctor with 2 vig shot are OP, so scums might be powerful too

 

 

 

if you are mafia, voting for velocity would have been a smart play.  lww gave solid evidence as to why we should vote velocity, and if you are mafia, you would know he isnt on your team, so they would get a free lynch of a townie and when he flipped town they could just say they voted based on lww's evidence and not draw too much suspicion.  

 

so lets look at the wagon

 

10. (5) Velocity (KevinH, lilwierdward, Brewers, lyner, Rafay
 

 

TOWN:

me: inactive as fuck but town.  I stated right away someone tried to kill me, which meant we most likely had two killing factions.  my guess was it was velocity who tried to kill me n1.  it would only be fair since ive had a hard on for lynching him.

Kevin:  Dead and confirmed town

 

Suspects:

Lyner: im tpo inactive to judge them

Rafay:im too inactivre to judge him

LWW :  he s not confirmed town.  He claimed batman.  Batman is the worlds billed as the worlds greatest detective.  So it seems to reason batman would be a cop.  The name does not fit the role/power.  LWW says he can take an item from someone.  How does stealing something from a player = Batman?  That makes no sense.  Flavor is super important in this game.  It just does not fit the role.  Batman would be a risky fake claim, UNLESS he was given it as a safe claim.  however, I also feel that the flavor does back up batman found the gloves and thus got velocity

 

And after reading the flavor again im pretty sure we have two mafia, Joker and Deathstroke (since they are constantly mentioned in the flavor)

 

Either way, id be willing to wager one of our scum is in that group of three

 

This is kinda WIFOM, since if Velocity turned out town, the scums can just frame lww and get two townies instead. I'm biased though lel

 

FWIW the scum tell I got from Velocity is when he still didn't role claim even after that much pressure, hence I voted after.

Post count

 

Lord MK 59

brewersalliance 53

lilweirdward 51

Rafay 46 - hiding in the middle; scum

Nadarr 31 - Nadarr, duh

Lyner 29 - lying

Torres951 18 - dead

The Warrior 18 - inactive af

 

So right now, we can either lynch the one who ended a whole fricking day way too soon or either of Torres or tw.

I mean, they are pretty much not playing.

If the best we can do on Day 4 is to lynch based on inactivity then we're in some trouble lol.

 

Or there's a certain condition to be fulfilled before chaos breaks, just like Kevin's role

 

Doctor with 2 vig shot are OP, so scums might be powerful too

Yeah I agree with this. Robert heavily emphasized that we should understand the potential for secret conditions, so it wouldn't surprise me to see things escalate pretty quickly soon. Also everyone was pretty unanimous on Day 1 that we likely have very few vanilla roles, which makes me think several people have additional modifiers that you don't normally see unless lots of people have powerful abilities.

 

Oh, and didn't brewers confirm that he was beaten up in a way that suggested the SK probably tried to take him out? I think we've probably just gotten lucky with doctor saves and role blocks holding us back from more carnage than you'd expect.

I think that Velocity tried to kill me the second night.

I got the message about the red light, remember?

The message is way back

And it was said someone saved me.

So Kevin probably saved me from the psychotic velocity.

 

Although i guess the real loser is velocity who couldn't even get 1 kill right 😂

 

 

Although i guess the real loser is velocity who couldn't even get 1 kill right

 

That burned more than darkseid's omega rays

 

 

 

Oh, and didn't brewers confirm that he was beaten up in a way that suggested the SK probably tried to take him out? I think we've probably just gotten lucky with doctor saves and role blocks holding us back from more carnage than you'd expect.

 

Yes the doc or maybe multiple healing roles could've saved us. 

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