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[brewersalliance]

I just want to say it plain and simple that you are not the cop, I am. 

 

 

Ditto 

And I would like to tell you brewers that yes, I had a jesus moment. I got sick of being lynched so early on all the time and wanted to actually live for a while. No scum partners to tell me anything. Besides it's more fun this way. 

 

 

This is a straight up lie.  you are in another game right now and still completely screwing around and not taking it seriously lol anyone playing that game can easily vouch for that.  

[Tony Maurice]

Your game is different. 

[brewersalliance]

Well isn't that convenient. You either have decided to take mafia seriously or you haven't. And it's clear you haven't based on your actions in the other game. So what makes this one different? It's your partners/now single partner putting pressure on you to actually play seriously. You don't want to get lynched early? That's because you're scum. You already lost one partner and would be completely screwing your other partner.

[brewersalliance]

also one other problem i just realized with Tony's RC

 

Night 2 I investigated Brewers and he came out to be mafia.

 

 

one problem with this.  since the cop can also get a result on the sk, he would either get a result of guilty or not guilty, or town/not town.  tony would just know that I was guilty, he would not know which faction i belong to. a cop result does not tell you the faction or role that someone has, just if they are town or not town.  this is a VERY important distinction when you have multiple scum factions in play, and tony clearly screwed that one up.  obviously being a newer player he would not realize this with his once again FAKE role claim.    his RC has some holes and issues with it.  a real RC would not.  

[Tony Maurice]

Continue to use my reputation against me, it's a reasonable message. Just remember everyone I am taking this game seriously. And also remember it is a distraction from the core message. 

 

That I am cop, brewers is not. He is scum, I am not. Give me this one chance and you will see. He is making all this shit up about my partners talking to me. 

[Velocity]

A real RC can have holes in it, especially from a player who isn’t copying it word for word from the mod. Some of them have before, even when they were the truth. I take care to avoid it, but it’s possible.

One unlikely thing I see is your lack of results any night, you would think you’d have gotten at least one. You being you, I doubt you would pick to investigate TW, and CoD is an easy cop out answer. Ferastical I have to say would be a good choice, but it’s still convenient. You’re a master of words among us, if you suspected Ferastical, you could get him lynched. You’re more likely to investigate somebody who could be scum that wouldn’t be suspected much, such as myself.
Your RC is very convenient. Both of your RC’s are convenient.
Brewer’s, to me, seems like a bid to get out of getting lynched for the first time, even though it would be him getting caught and lynched for being scum.

We still have time to consider, so I ask for us to not rush votes past a deadline vote, so we don’t prematurely end the day.

[Finster Baby]

Right now, independent of anything brewers has said, I believe Velocity is the SK.  I say this based on how he instantly backed TM's RC and inferred he knew if the cop was switched on or not.  The only person who can switch the cop back on if the mafia switch turned him off (which, if I were mafia, would be switched off every night) is the SK.

 

I do not pass judgement on either TMs or Brewers RC right now.  I'm still evaluating all of it.

 

That said, if we can get rid of the SK now, as a town we should, because it eliminates 1 night kill and keeps the town alive longer, delaying LYLO.

 

VOTE:  Velocity

[Tony Maurice]

also one other problem i just realized with Tony's RC

 

 

 

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one problem with this.  since the cop can also get a result on the sk, he would either get a result of guilty or not guilty, or town/not town.  tony would just know that I was guilty, he would not know which faction i belong to. a cop result does not tell you the faction or role that someone has, just if they are town or not town.  this is a VERY important distinction when you have multiple scum factions in play, and tony clearly screwed that one up.  obviously being a newer player he would not realize this with his once again FAKE role claim.    his RC has some holes and issues with it.  a real RC would not.  

THis doesn't change anything. I still got a not town result. You are mafia. 

[Velocity]

Right now, independent of anything brewers has said, I believe Velocity is the SK. I say this based on how he instantly backed TM's RC and inferred he knew if the cop was switched on or not. The only person who can switch the cop back on if the mafia switch turned him off (which, if I were mafia, would be switched off every night) is the SK.

I do not pass judgement on either TMs or Brewers RC right now. I'm still evaluating all of it.

That said, if we can get rid of the SK now, as a town we should, because it eliminates 1 night kill and keeps the town alive longer, delaying LYLO.

VOTE: Velocity

Neither the SK or the scum would know if the cop was active on any given night, only the cop would know when they got their results.

I said it’s unlikely that the cop got blocked all three nights so far, since there’s a good chance the scum and SK were trying to read into each other and at least one group did something different front the other and turned it on when it was off.

I never said it was impossible, or that I knew, simply unlikely and convenient.

I’ve said it before and I’ll reiterate it now, I’m surprised you think lowly enough of me to pull something like that as an SK.

I’m no brewers or TW, I don’t have amazing RC skills or manipulation ability, if I was the SK I would be backing myself into a nigh unsinkable corner, when I was set up to pretty much win or get a lot further than I have. So you might ask, “them why do it?” I wouldn’t. I’m not the SK, but I know that at least one of Tony and brewers is scum, and I believe it’s brewers at the moment, despite Tony’s attitude.
Nigh un-winnable, not nigh unsinkable, in that above post. Autocorrect threw me a boat.

[Finster Baby]

Ah, the "I'm too dumb to play SK."

 

I was too dumb to play SK in Brewers GoT game, but the SK faction won.  So, its absolutely possible that you're attempt to deflect here.

 

Additionally, the SK would now know that he was effective, assuming the cop switch turned the cop off every night but TM claims he had 2 good investigations.  That means only the SK could turn it back on, and with your immediate approval of TM's RC after Brewer's RC I just find it to be more than suspicious.  It helps you to have the cop doing investigations so you can know who to kill. Plus, being immune to  night kills makes you very strong.

 

So, I'm convinced you're the SK.  I can't find fault with playing it the way you are.

 

As I said, I am not sure which RC I do believe.  I have my suspicions but nothing I'm ready to voice yet.  However, lynching the SK takes priority over resolving the dueling cop RCs as eliminating the SK helps the town live longer.

[brewersalliance]

 

also one other problem i just realized with Tony's RC

 

 

 

.

 

 

one problem with this.  since the cop can also get a result on the sk, he would either get a result of guilty or not guilty, or town/not town.  tony would just know that I was guilty, he would not know which faction i belong to. a cop result does not tell you the faction or role that someone has, just if they are town or not town.  this is a VERY important distinction when you have multiple scum factions in play, and tony clearly screwed that one up.  obviously being a newer player he would not realize this with his once again FAKE role claim.    his RC has some holes and issues with it.  a real RC would not.  

THis doesn't change anything. I still got a not town result. You are mafia. 

 

Except you have no idea if I am sk or mafia with your result.  you screwed up your RC, and that is a fact.  you didnt get a result of mafia on me and the reason you said you did is because youre not the cop.  if you were the cop and i was actually scum (which i am not) you would have known that "mafia" was not my result.  instead you would just know im not town via guilty or "not town".  you would have ZERO idea if im the mafia or if im the SK.  you are sticking to me being mafia here too, even tho u have no way of knowing which it would be if you are actually the cop.  but it makes sense you would get the result wrong, since you are a newer player, and would not realize that you are faking the incorrect result.  

[Tony Maurice]

 

 

also one other problem i just realized with Tony's RC

 

 

 

.

 

 

one problem with this.  since the cop can also get a result on the sk, he would either get a result of guilty or not guilty, or town/not town.  tony would just know that I was guilty, he would not know which faction i belong to. a cop result does not tell you the faction or role that someone has, just if they are town or not town.  this is a VERY important distinction when you have multiple scum factions in play, and tony clearly screwed that one up.  obviously being a newer player he would not realize this with his once again FAKE role claim.    his RC has some holes and issues with it.  a real RC would not.  

THis doesn't change anything. I still got a not town result. You are mafia. 

 

Except you have no idea if I am sk or mafia with your result.  you screwed up your RC, and that is a fact.  you didnt get a result of mafia on me and the reason you said you did is because youre not the cop.  if you were the cop and i was actually scum (which i am not) you would have known that "mafia" was not my result.  instead you would just know im not town via guilty or "not town".  you would have ZERO idea if im the mafia or if im the SK.  you are sticking to me being mafia here too, even tho u have no way of knowing which it would be if you are actually the cop.  but it makes sense you would get the result wrong, since you are a newer player, and would not realize that you are faking the incorrect result.  

 

But I know you're not town.

[brewersalliance]

I’ve said it before and I’ll reiterate it now, I’m surprised you think lowly enough of me to pull something like that as an SK.

 

 

that is not a defense.  thats WIFOM.  you cant just go "hey this cant be true because im not that dumb therefore I would not do it"  

[brewersalliance]

 

 

 

also one other problem i just realized with Tony's RC

 

 

 

.

 

 

one problem with this.  since the cop can also get a result on the sk, he would either get a result of guilty or not guilty, or town/not town.  tony would just know that I was guilty, he would not know which faction i belong to. a cop result does not tell you the faction or role that someone has, just if they are town or not town.  this is a VERY important distinction when you have multiple scum factions in play, and tony clearly screwed that one up.  obviously being a newer player he would not realize this with his once again FAKE role claim.    his RC has some holes and issues with it.  a real RC would not.  

THis doesn't change anything. I still got a not town result. You are mafia. 

 

Except you have no idea if I am sk or mafia with your result.  you screwed up your RC, and that is a fact.  you didnt get a result of mafia on me and the reason you said you did is because youre not the cop.  if you were the cop and i was actually scum (which i am not) you would have known that "mafia" was not my result.  instead you would just know im not town via guilty or "not town".  you would have ZERO idea if im the mafia or if im the SK.  you are sticking to me being mafia here too, even tho u have no way of knowing which it would be if you are actually the cop.  but it makes sense you would get the result wrong, since you are a newer player, and would not realize that you are faking the incorrect result.  

 

But I know you're not town.

 

 

obviously you are going to say that.  You faked a RC and screwed it up multiple times.  First with Don/robert when you tried to say Don was robert and u got no result on him so u think he could still be scum and I am trying to bus him again.  Then you posted the wrong results for what you should have gotten if you were the cop.  

 

and more lies from tony:  claims he had a come to jesus moment and is deciding to actually try now in mafia.  called out on how in the other game he is playing he is still not trying.  claims "that one is different"  so whats the difference?  his partners clearly told him he actually needs to try since hes mafia in this game.

 

so here are the reasons to trust tony: 

• its tony, he couldnt possibly make this up

 

reasons to not trust him: 

• claims he investigated Don and tries to use that to tie him with me, when in reality it was velocity
• claims wrong result for his investigation
• contradicts/lies about actually wanting to play mafia seriously

 

i think its pretty clear who is lying here...

[Tony Maurice]

I drop all charges on Don once I realised my mistake. It happened, it was a mistake. Town please realise it was a simple mess up. 

 

The RC is completely real, but that's just a back and forth between you and I. 

 

And I know you are not town, the focus of the smallest detail doesn't take away you are some evil faction

[brewersalliance]

I drop all charges on Don once I realised my mistake. It happened, it was a mistake. Town please realise it was a simple mess up. 

 

The RC is completely real, but that's just a back and forth between you and I. 

 

And I know you are not town, the focus of the smallest detail doesn't take away you are some evil faction

 

except the details are important.  the details are how you can figure out if a RC is legit or it is a fabrication.  youre basically asking everyone to ignore the fact that you have incorrect info and mistakes in your rc and to still accept it as the truth. 

[Tony Maurice]

It's just a misinterpretation of MK's results. Please remember that I am new to being a PR. 

[brewersalliance]

and obviously you backtracked on Don, you didnt have a choice, you were called out for it.  

[Tony Maurice]

and obviously you backtracked on Don, you didnt have a choice, you were called out for it.  

Which is a good thing. I realised I was wrong as Dontavian was not Robert. 

[brewersalliance]

It's just a misinterpretation of MK's results. Please remember that I am new to being a PR. 

 

you are new to being a scum player.  tried to fake a RC, and used the wrong verbage/terms/results for it. 

 

if it was real, you would not have known if i was mafia or a sk.  yet you stated that you KNOW i am mafia.  i know youre not gonna admit you made up the RC, but its pretty crystal clear that you did