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[lilweirdward]

LWW Vote Count 11/4:

Finster (1): Rafay
Rafay (1): Finster
Torres (1): MK
ABT
KevinH
Lord MK
Lyner
Robert
TW
Tony
Velocity
Wolfpacks
LWW (Elector)

Not Voting (9): ABT, KevinH, Lyner, Robert, Torres, TW, Tony, Velocity, Wolfpacks
Post Count:

lilweirdward 7
Velocity 6
Ali bin Turban 5
Rafay 4
Torres951 3
Lord MK 3
Lyner 3
The Warrior 3
Tony Maurice 1
KevinH 1
Finster Baby 1
Robert 0
Wolfpacks 0

[KevinH]

Vote for Tony!

 

He needs time to mod his own game.

[Finster Baby]

I've watched too many returns to keep this all straight in my head.

[Wolfpacks]

So when did I say I didn't trust LWw I must have missed that
Oh BTW
your election is really funny, Trump if I lose its fraud but not if I win, you can't make this stuff up lol

[The Warrior]

There's more to it than that.

Vote for Tony!

 

He needs time to mod his own game.

 

Now THIS is a candidate we can believe in!

[Rafay]

Vote for Tony!   He needs time to mod his own game.

 

Well thats a sound argument but I'll hold my vote. 

[lilweirdward]

Guys seriously, there's no reason to be cautious with your votes. It will make this game way harder for town because we won't be able to analyze wagons or know if the elector was protecting someone. You can't hammer people and you can switch votes as much as you want until the day ends, so...vote.

That's not directly a response to Rafay not changing his vote btw, I'm just seeing a lot of commentary but almost no one actually making votes, which I don't understand.

[Lord MK]

Guys, i have a question.

When will the the electors be finalized?
And like the all votes counted?
.
Referring to the rl us election

[Torres951]

Are you accepting mail-in ballots?

 

Vote: Tony

[The Warrior]

Post Count:

Robert 0

 

Vote: Sleepy Robert

 

Wake up bro.

[Wolfpacks]

Wakey wakey Robert,

Anyway has Trump trumped Bidon yet, or is the fraud still on the table lol

[Finster Baby]

Time to wake up Robert.

[Rafay]

Are you accepting mail-in ballots?

 

Oh God no!! No more mail in.

 

Anyway has Trump trumped Bidon yet, or is the fraud still on the table lol

 

Trying to win the elections in courts rather than the polling stations.

 

Guys, i have a question. When will the the electors be finalized? And like the all votes counted? . Referring to the rl us election

 

 

Late Thu or Early Fri if we're lucky.

[Ali bin Turban]

@Brewers can we replace Robert if needed? 

Other than that, let me quote my previous post.

Alright, so there are no roles that can investigate. Therefore only way for us to win is to lynch and analyze the wagons. In this case I think the best play would be to for Elector to always lynch players with the most votes. Disregarding town votes will lead to situations where: 

 

   a) We'll have no wagons to analyze (if Elector kills someone with small or no wagon). 

   b ) Wagons will be less important - if Electors will disregard people votes and decide who to kill by themselves, then nothing stops mafia from voting on themselves.

   c) False alarms will be created - for example, if Elector disregards player A with 6-man wagon and kills player B with 4-man wagon, then was it because Elector didn't believe that A was a scum, or maybe both Elector and A were scum?

 

If we all agree to always vote on the top wagon then we'll protect ourselves in the event of scum becoming Elector (this way if Elector is not lynching the biggest wagon owner, we'll know that this specific Elector is a scum). 

 

  d) We will avoid situation where Elector decides to lynch Popular Candidate and dies instead. When it happens that Popular Candidate gets the most votes, he can RC to protect himself / Elector (and if mafia fakes RC, they're as good as dead anyway). 

 

Town, this is important. If we go without any rules then we'll surely lose. We need to make sure, that we all universally accept those rules (or others if someone come up with a better ones). We need to voice it before the end of the day, so that there will be no excuses from scum that might happen to become Electors.  

[The Warrior]

I'm good with that.

[Rafay]

Town, this is important. If we go without any rules then we'll surely lose. We need to make sure, that we all universally accept those rules (or others if someone come up with a better ones). We need to voice it before the end of the day, so that there will be no excuses from scum that might happen to become Electors.  

 

So what's your strategy rn for D1?? Simply worded. 

[Torres951]

• We have 13 players in this, so if we use the 25% scum rule, we have 3 mafia.
• Mafia can only kill one person each night.
• The elector can only kill one person each day. 
• There are no investigative or other killing roles
• The popular candidate is 1 shot lynch proof and 1 shot night-kill proof
• There's no law saying that the elector MUST kill someone each day

I propose that we don't lynch anybody unless we're 100% certain that they're mafia (pretty ironic coming from me), and if we aren't sure, then the elector can opt not to kill anyone that day. This will allow us to have more time to read people and gives town the best chance to win!

[Ali bin Turban]

 
So what's your strategy rn for D1?? Simply worded. 

We play the game as if it was a plain vanila town vs mafia goons game. There are no investigations so we lynch people everyday and analyze wagons

[lilweirdward]

• We have 13 players in this, so if we use the 25% scum rule, we have 3 mafia.
• Mafia can only kill one person each night.
• The elector can only kill one person each day.
• There are no investigative or other killing roles
• The popular candidate is 1 shot lynch proof and 1 shot night-kill proof
• There's no law saying that the elector MUST kill someone each day

I propose that we don't lynch anybody unless we're 100% certain that they're mafia (pretty ironic coming from me), and if we aren't sure, then the elector can opt not to kill anyone that day. This will allow us to have more time to read people and gives town the best chance to win!</p>

As a disclaimer, brewers told me in a PM that I can't choose No Lynch, so this whole theory doesn't work anyway.

That being said, this is a horrible idea, although it's cool that you actually came up with an idea unlike some other games lol. You said it yourself that we have no investigative roles, so how would we ever be confident in someone being mafia? If no one gets lynched then we can't say if anyone is suspicious or not, and we might as well be completely blind. Our only chance is to lynch people and evaluate who voted for who once alignments are confirmed, just like in a normal powerless game.

[Ali bin Turban]

@Torres, thats a nice summary. Your plan however is too idealistic on the part where you say:

"we don't lynch anybody unless we're 100% certain that"

Youll never have such certainty, escpecially if you dont plan to vote and pressure anyone.
And we need votes and wagons to find behavior patterns that may lead us to scum. Thats only tool we have
That being said:

Vote KevinH

He has a bad habit of not explaining his motives and actions ( outside of not very useful one-liners). I dont remember him helping a town.