I'm still leaning scum on WP tbh

 

We know that the scum side has to fake at least one role:

1. Vig N3, because nobody claimed when MK & TW got killed on the same night

2. Alignment Cop N3 Ninja, because Tony didn't see any killer on the night LWW got killed

 

Assuming Tony didn't lie about the Cop N3, someone is definitely faking their RC right now. Rafay didn't RC yesterday so I'm assuming he got one of the bad role (Vig/Cop).

 

WP was the last one to RC and assuming he's scum, he can easily fake his RC as he already know all the info by that time.

 

He also didn't vote on the torres wagon.

 

Anyone wanna round up the players that have/don't have verifiable RC?

 

 

 

 

I did tell you I was town.

well there still is ZERO confirmation that you are town, just saying you told us you are town does not in fact make you town lol

That could go for anyone, only I and the mafia members know the truth and I'm not in the mafia.

so whats the point of saying you told us you were town? its not like you died and are just doing a "see I told you so post"

 

here is how the final vote shook out

Rafay (6): Brewersalliance, Lyner, Dontavian, Velocity, captainjf, Ferastical,

Wolfpacks (3): Chaplain of death, Tony Maurice, Rafay,

Brewersalliance (1): Wolfpacks,

 

 

Not voting: Kaziocore,

we can break it down into two groups: voted rafay and not voting rafay.

on the voted rafay wagon, i was pushing him all day and i brought him up the previous day as a possible suspect. lyner joined the wagon very early. if lyner was scum, idk why he would join it right away. a bit early for the bus. both captain and ferastical switched from wolfpacks to rafay, when they could have just stayed put and let the day either end in a no lynch or a wp lynch. i dont think scum would do that, so they are also both townie to me.

don and velocity both were in the middle on rafays wagon. middle is typically where the scum feel safe on wagons. i dont remember when don joined the rafay wagon, but velocity did it very late, when it seemed like WP was gonna get lynched or we were gonna no lynch, sp he could have been "hiding on rafay" and if rafay were to eventually die, he could claim he was trying to bus him.

COD and tony were on WP for basically WP defending firster and claiming he knew finster was town. tho it was an understandable vote, it doesnt make them both town, tho Tony brought up and gave us the ninja, so i doubt he is scum for that.

if WP is town, my guess is one scum was voting him (two if you count rafay) and probably one was off the wagon.

if WP is scum, then my guess is one of the scum was on rafay.

i think its possible WP is scum. How he acted towards finster was scummy, tho i felt rafay there was more evidence for, so thats why i pushed that. if rafay didnt appear super scummy to me, i would have voted wp. what i think is most telling tho is WP kept his vote on me, instead of moving it to rafay to try to save himself. voting for rafay could have been an attempted bus, but it also could have been the deciding vote and could have ended up killing his partner.

if wp is town, i think either cod or tony is probably scum (no way both rafay's partners were on him).

CoD is interesting. he pushed for torres early and often so that is very townie to me, but he also piggy backed me hard on finster (tho finster was acting wayy of his rocker) could be a townie just going after someone who is acting scummy or he could have been trying to ride the coatails of a prominent and vocal townie (me). but thats not what i find interesting. I find his trying to defend not jumping on the rafay wagon interesting. Rafay is scum, and CoD came out today and said

I actually hard missed that explanation of his vote from Brewers. Had I seen this I would have swapped to Rafay. brewersalliance, on 13 Feb 2021 - 08:29, said: And when there was the second kill n3 Rafay asked if the serial killer could be in play. That was either Rafay trying to play dumb (my money is on he is the n3 vig) - that's something Rafay would 100% do and has done when he was scum in the past or he didn't read the OP, which is possible, however when you lump it all together, to me that equals scum And it actually looks like Rafay has been hammered by ferastical Also a good point. I didn't think that was enough by itself but I missed the explanation you gave about the N2 kill. I'm thrown off by the revelation that Rafay was scum. I felt like WP asked for the explanation out of Rafay specifically since he was the only other wagon and hadn't posted in 5ever, but hard to say. I was so sure it was WP but now I have no clue if they were trying to throw us off with Rafay voting WP or not.

i find it strange that he did not see my reasoning for voting rafay, which i brought up several times during the day, until AFTER rafay was lynched and was revealed as scum. Again, without two last seconf vote switches, rafay would not have died. idk, i didnt think there was a snowballs chance in hell CoD was scum with the whole torres thing, but after this post its def making me think a little. either way, i am kind of torn on which way to go today. no one is really definitively scum imo.

 

of the 9 players id break it down into

town

brewers

lyner

captain

ferastical

probably town

tony

leaning town, but has a chance of being scum

Cod

Could go either way

Don

Top Scum suspects to me

Velocity

WP

 

anyways i gotta get back to snow removal- got like a food last night haha

 

could someone maybe cross reference the rafay/not rafay voters with both days of torres voters? maybe we can find something there

You were the one who pushed me at that point in time to vote for Rafay lol

 

I voted for him after you prodded me a bunch about it, because I wanted to know his role and he was the best choice anyways for obvious reasons

Vote Count

Wolfpacks (1): Ferastical,
Brewersalliance (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Brewersalliance, Lyner, Dontavian, Velocity, captainjf, Chaplain of death, Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,
 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is Wednesday, February 24 at 12:00 EST.
 

 

 

 

 

 

I did tell you I was town.

 

well there still is ZERO confirmation that you are town, just saying you told us you are town does not in fact make you town lol

That could go for anyone, only I and the mafia members know the truth and I'm not in the mafia.

 

so whats the point of saying you told us you were town?  its not like you died and are just doing a "see I told you so post"

 

here is how the final vote shook out

Rafay (6): Brewersalliance, Lyner, Dontavian, Velocity, captainjf, Ferastical,  

Wolfpacks (3): Chaplain of death, Tony Maurice, Rafay,

Brewersalliance (1): Wolfpacks,

 

 

Not voting: Kaziocore, 

 

 

we can break it down into two groups:  voted rafay and not voting rafay.

 

on the voted rafay wagon, i was pushing him all day and i brought him up the previous day as a possible suspect.  lyner joined the wagon very early.  if lyner was scum, idk why he would join it right away.  a bit early for the bus.  both captain and ferastical switched from wolfpacks to rafay, when they could have just stayed put and let the day either end in a no lynch or a wp lynch.  i dont think scum would do that, so they are also both townie to me.

 

don and velocity both were in the middle on rafays wagon.  middle is typically where the scum feel safe on wagons.  i dont remember when don joined the rafay wagon, but velocity did it very late, when it seemed like WP was gonna get lynched or we were gonna no lynch, sp he could have been "hiding on rafay" and if rafay were to eventually die, he could claim he was trying to bus him.

 

COD and tony were on WP for basically WP defending firster and claiming he knew finster was town. tho it was an understandable vote, it doesnt make them both town, tho Tony brought up and gave us the ninja, so i doubt he is scum for that.

 

if WP is town, my guess is one scum was voting him (two if you count rafay) and probably one was off the wagon.

 

if WP is scum, then my guess is one of the scum was on rafay.  

 

i think its possible WP is scum.  How he acted towards finster was scummy, tho i felt rafay there was more evidence for, so thats why i pushed that.  if rafay didnt appear super scummy to me, i would have voted wp.  what i think is most telling tho is WP kept his vote on me, instead of moving it to rafay to try to save himself. voting for rafay could have been an attempted bus, but it also could have been the deciding vote and could have ended up killing his partner.  

 

if wp is town, i think either cod or tony is probably scum (no way both rafay's partners were on him).

 

CoD is interesting.  he pushed for torres early and often so that is very townie to me, but he also piggy backed me hard on finster (tho finster was acting wayy of his rocker)  could be a townie just going after someone who is acting scummy or he could have been trying to ride the coatails of a prominent and vocal townie (me).  but thats not what i find interesting.  I find his trying to defend not jumping on the rafay wagon interesting.  Rafay is scum, and CoD came out today and said

 

 

 

I actually hard missed that explanation of his vote from Brewers. Had I seen this I would have swapped to Rafay.   brewersalliance, on 13 Feb 2021 - 08:29, said: And when there was the second kill n3 Rafay asked if the serial killer could be in play. That was either Rafay trying to play dumb (my money is on he is the n3 vig) - that's something Rafay would 100% do and has done when he was scum in the past or he didn't read the OP, which is possible, however when you lump it all together, to me that equals scum And it actually looks like Rafay has been hammered by ferastical   Also a good point. I didn't think that was enough by itself but I missed the explanation you gave about the N2 kill.     I'm thrown off by the revelation that Rafay was scum. I felt like WP asked for the explanation out of Rafay specifically since he was the only other wagon and hadn't posted in 5ever, but hard to say. I was so sure it was WP but now I have no clue if they were trying to throw us off with Rafay voting WP or not.

 

 

i find it strange that he did not see my reasoning for voting rafay, which i brought up several times during the day, until AFTER rafay was lynched and was revealed as scum.  Again, without two last seconf vote switches, rafay would not have died.   idk, i didnt think there was a snowballs chance in hell CoD was scum with the whole torres thing, but after this post its def making me think a little.  either way, i am kind of torn on which way to go today.  no one is really definitively scum imo.

 

 

of the 9 players id break it down into

 

town 

brewers

lyner

captain

ferastical

 

probably town

tony

 

leaning town, but has a chance of being scum

Cod

 

Could go either way

Don

 

Top Scum suspects to me

Velocity 

WP

anyways i gotta get back to snow removal- got like a food last night haha

 

  could someone maybe cross reference the rafay/not rafay voters with both days of torres voters?  maybe we can find something there

 

 

 

Yeah I don't have a good excuse, I can't believe I didn't see your reasoning for voting Rafay. I remember reading your role claim but I think I skimmed past the last few lines of the post below your actual actions because I was eager to make my own claim and go do other shit  . 

 

normally id say "oh that makes sense"  but didnt you role claim d3 when you killed robert?  so why would you be so eager to RC when you already did?  or am i confusing you with someone else lol

 

 

I claimed on D3 that I had killed Robert on N2. But if we were going to mass claim I wanted to post it again so that it wasn't forgotten from earlier. What I mean by I wanted to get my claim done with was I wanted to go other shit rather than read the mafia thread at that time.

 

Vote Count

Wolfpacks (1): Ferastical,

Brewersalliance (0):

Ferastical (0):

Captainjf (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Dontavian (0):

Lyner (0):

Tony Maurice (0):

Velocity (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not voting: Brewersalliance, Lyner, Dontavian, Velocity, captainjf, Chaplain of death, Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,

 

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is Wednesday, February 24 at 12:00 EST.

 

Vote Count

Wolfpacks (1): Ferastical,

Brewersalliance (0):

Ferastical (0):

Captainjf (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Dontavian (0):

Lyner (0):

Tony Maurice (0):

Velocity (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not voting: Brewersalliance, Lyner, Dontavian, Velocity, captainjf, Chaplain of death, Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,

 

 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is Wednesday, February 24 at 12:00 EST.

Vote: Wolfpack

Cool vote for me I cannot say anymore then I have, but hopefully losing me will give Town another win

Cool vote for me I cannot say anymore then I have, but hopefully losing me will give Town another win

If youre town how would losing you give town a win? That doesn't make sense to me at all lol only way a player dying this late in the game benifits town is if they are scum

Vote Count

Wolfpacks (2): Ferastical, Lyner,
Brewersalliance (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Brewersalliance, Dontavian, Velocity, captainjf, Chaplain of death, Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,
 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is Wednesday, February 24 at 12:00 EST.
 

 

 

If youre town how would losing you give town a win? That doesn't make sense to me at all lol only way a player dying this late in the game benifits town is if they are scum

 

hammer 'em 

 

this is now too hilarious to not know whether WP is scum or nah, I suggest we try the fast route

also the fact that this wagon is going so slow might indicate scum are hesitating to jump on or something, I don't know really

just a thought

 

 

I suggest we try the fast route

 

As in end the day quickly?  im not opposed to ending the days before the deadline since they are a billion days long but i dont think we should go through at lightning speed lol 

ALSO FOR ANYONE WHO CARES

 

brewersalliance 126 KevinH 82 Chaplain of death 72 Lord MK 70 captainjf 46 Dontavian 45 Wolfpacks 44 Tony Maurice 42 Lyner 34 lilweirdward 30 Robert2424 30 Velocity 27 Finster Baby 27 Ferastical 25 Torres951 17 The Warrior 17 Rafay 16 Kaziocore 12

 

 

As in end the day quickly?  im not opposed to ending the days before the deadline since they are a billion days long but i dont think we should go through at lightning speed lol 

 

well, there's either voting for him this day and then the other option would be to postpone it, possibly having to wait until the end of the game

 

so yeah, that's what I mean by the faster way

 

if you wanna discuss how your day is going that's also fine 

 

 

if you wanna discuss how your day is going that's also fine 

MY DAY IS GOING PRETTY WELL, HBU? 

 

 

MY DAY IS GOING PRETTY WELL, HBU? 

 

 

it's all right, almost threw up while doing an intense rowing workout today but ordered McDonalds for dinner, so...

 

om nom nom 

 

MY DAY IS GOING PRETTY WELL, HBU? 

 

 

it's all right, almost threw up while doing an intense rowing workout today but ordered McDonalds for dinner, so...

 

om nom nom 

 

perfect post workout meal

VOTE FERASTICAL FOR EATING MCDONALDS AFTER A WORKOUT....

THE WAY THIS GAME HAS DIED, THATS PROBABLY THE SCUMMIEST THING THATS BEEN DONE SINCE RAFAY REFUSED TO RC

 

 

VOTE FERASTICAL FOR EATING MCDONALDS AFTER A WORKOUT....

 

was just sharing my day... and get jumped on like that? not cool   

 

for being a big meanie, you owe me 1 vote on Wolfpacks I wish to cash in now

 

3... 2... 1... do it!

 

 

perfect post workout meal

 

yeah... I mean... who isn't to say I didn't order a salad or something, right?

 

 

not that I'm a vegetarian, heck no, meat gang 4 life     

 

but still, I could've 

 

 

for being a big meanie, you owe me 1 vote on Wolfpacks I wish to cash in now

 

 

 

unvote

I was about to post that I wouldn't count the vote in a sentence like that ...

Vote Count

Wolfpacks (2): Ferastical, Lyner,
Brewersalliance (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Brewersalliance, Dontavian, Velocity, captainjf, Chaplain of death, Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,
 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is Wednesday, February 24 at 12:00 EST.

Vote Count

Wolfpacks (2): Ferastical, Lyner,
Brewersalliance (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Brewersalliance, Dontavian, Velocity, captainjf, Chaplain of death, Tony Maurice, Wolfpacks,
 

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Deadline is Wednesday, February 24 at 12:00 EST.

Jesus this game has died.

 

Vote velocity

Jesus this game has died.

 

Vote velocity

That’s what happens when multiple new games open up.

 

 

Why voting velocity?

1) competing wagon

2) my previous comments on how he joined rafays wagon when it looked like rafay would not be lynched as it was right before deadline and he was only at 3 votes

3) for some reason he did not vote torres the second time, even tho he did the first time.  feels a bit odd to me

4)very low post count

 

 

its not much, but then again we dont have much to go off on really anyone right now.  we are at the point where if we dont at least push someone else a little bit, all we are gonna do is talk about the same couple things in regards to wolfpacks.  

Actually lets do some wagon analysis from the three scum wagons we had:  torres d2, torres d3 and rafay

 

Torres wagon D2

 

 

Torres951 (7): Chaplain of death, Lyner, Kaziocore, The Warrior, Brewersalliance, Velocity, Dontavian,

 

 

Torres Wagon D3

 

 

Torres951 (8): Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf, Ferastical,

 

 

Rafay Wagon

 

 

 

Rafay (6): Brewersalliance, Lyner, Dontavian, Velocity, captainjf, Ferastical,  

 

 

People on all three scum wagons:  brewersalliance, lyner, dontavian

 

People on two:  Velocity (rafay and torres1) CoD (Torres 1 and 2) captainjf (torres2 and rafay) Ferastical (hammer on both torres 2 and rafay)

 

People on one:  Tony (torres 2)

 

People on none;  Wolfpacks

 

maybe we can use this to help find some scum.  this to me makes it more likely that dontavian is town, as he was one of only three people to be on all three scum wagons