also, another reason for the rafay vote

 

torres wagon d2

 

 

Torres951 (7): Chaplain of death, Lyner, Kaziocore, The Warrior, Brewersalliance, Velocity, Dontavian,

 

 

torres wagon d3

 

 

Torres951 (8): Chaplain of death, Brewersalliance, Lyner, Rafay, Dontavian, Tony Maurice, captainjf, Ferastical,

 

 

Rafay was not on it the first day but he joined it the second day

 

 

More relevant imo is the people who were on it the first time and not the second. Kazio TW and Velocity. TW died after so obviously not relevant here. Kazio has been inactive as far as I can see, Velocity has been pretty inactive but hasn't been too involved. A number of people were talking about voting Torres D3 but were waiting because they "didn't want to end the day early."

If I’m not being a massive idiot right now (which I may be)...

 

N4 doctor protects the mafia’s target.

N4 Jailkeeper jails the mafia’s target.

N4 Jailkeeper jails the person performing the killing action.

N4 roleblocker roleblocks the person performing the kill.

The last option, which I don’t think happened, is that scum didn’t perform a kill.

 

Each one of those above actions has a % chance of being the cause of no kill last night?

 

Correct me if I’m wrong.

 

I am the N2, N4 roleblocker.

 

N2 I didn’t submit an action. I closed the tab of the forum I always have open to remind myself to check and forgot about it until it was too late.

N4, last night, I roleblocked COD. He was the second to last person in the wagon, and in my mind I didn’t have anyone better at that time since I hadn’t been paying a lot of attention to this game (or the forum much at all).

I was the N1 Watcher and I watched Lord MK. Got the result Dontavian targeted Lord MK.

Vote Count

Rafay (1): Brewersalliance,
Brewersalliance (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
Wolfpacks (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Velocity, Rafay, Tony Maurice, Dontavian, Ferastical, Lyner, Chaplain of death, Wolfpacks, captainjf,  
 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is Saturday, February 13 at 12:00 EST.

If I’m not being a massive idiot right now (which I may be)...

 

N4 doctor protects the mafia’s target.

N4 Jailkeeper jails the mafia’s target.

N4 Jailkeeper jails the person performing the killing action.

N4 roleblocker roleblocks the person performing the kill.

The last option, which I don’t think happened, is that scum didn’t perform a kill.

 

Each one of those above actions has a % chance of being the cause of no kill last night?

 

Correct me if I’m wrong.

 

I am the N2, N4 roleblocker.

 

N2 I didn’t submit an action. I closed the tab of the forum I always have open to remind myself to check and forgot about it until it was too late.

N4, last night, I roleblocked COD. He was the second to last person in the wagon, and in my mind I didn’t have anyone better at that time since I hadn’t been paying a lot of attention to this game (or the forum much at all).

 

Interesting choice. I may have been late to vote but Brewers was pushing that wagon and I appeared to be the only other one openly agreeing with him and pushing that wagon along. Obviously we ended up being wrong but I find it odd you would target me based on being 2nd to last to the wagon given that info.

 

I also was first to jump back on Torres on D3 and push that wagon. 

 

Also interesting to note, you claim you forgot to submit your N2 action, and scum also didn't kill anyone on N2....... 

 

 

If anyone did not catch that first part, then I role claim as   Tracker n1, n3 x1 Strongman

 

Tracked LWW N1, his target -> The Warrior

Tracked Tony N3, his target -> Finster Baby

 

I'm surprised how strong Wolfpacks was on his position about Finster not being scum. Whenever we lynch inactive people, two reasons for it is that there exists a chance for them to be scum and by not posting they're not being helpful to town. Well, if we believed Tony's claim (which I do, evident from when he first RCd, he mentioned that LWW was tracked N1, which I can back up as I was the one to do the tracking), there existed even bigger odds for Finster due to his claim of Alignment Cop. As we know now, Finster trying to present his results about Torres wasn't really timed right and it gave the wrong impression, but adding to that, he places a vote on himself, then comes D3 where he constantly... misremembered information about the game. As far as I remember, you don't have any trouble lynching inactives, how was this case with Finster different, other than he was even more likely to turn out scum? If that's not enough to ring any warning bells for you, dear lad, it seems you're confident on knowing what his alignment was from the beginning.

 

This argument also throws further light on how you placed your vote on D2, on Torres, 26 minutes past the deadline. Was that really a mishap... or something you planned beforehand?

 

Vote -> Wolfpacks

 

Let me know what you think.

 

Oh, also, since one role out of the 18 original was thrown out, and the scum know it, we should be expecting at least 1 safe claim that's hard to back up, as the supposed "target" is already dead or wouldn't be able to know if they were visited. Everyone should role claim now, as everyone has done their night actions and there's nothing you need to hide anymore, otherwise this mass claiming won't have its desired effect.

Vote Count

Rafay (1): Brewersalliance,
Wolfpacks (1): Ferastical,
Brewersalliance (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Velocity, Rafay, Tony Maurice, Dontavian, Lyner, Chaplain of death, Wolfpacks, captainjf,  
 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is Saturday, February 13 at 12:00 EST.

I'm the other JoAT

 

N1 I role cop TW and got no result

N2 I tracked Robert and saw he targetted Brewers

N3 I RB'ed Finster

 

If my note is correct, only Rafay & WP haven't RC'ed by now

 

Will start doing the hard work once we got all the pieces

Can anyone else confirm Lyner results apart from me?

Vote Count

Rafay (1): Brewersalliance,
Wolfpacks (1): Ferastical,
Brewersalliance (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Velocity, Rafay, Tony Maurice, Dontavian, Lyner, Chaplain of death, Wolfpacks, captainjf,  
 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is Saturday, February 13 at 12:00 EST.

 

If anyone did not catch that first part, then I role claim as Tracker n1, n3 x1 Strongman

Tracked LWW N1, his target -> The Warrior

Tracked Tony N3, his target -> Finster Baby

 

I'm surprised how strong Wolfpacks was on his position about Finster not being scum. Whenever we lynch inactive people, two reasons for it is that there exists a chance for them to be scum and by not posting they're not being helpful to town. Well, if we believed Tony's claim (which I do, evident from when he first RCd, he mentioned that LWW was tracked N1, which I can back up as I was the one to do the tracking), there existed even bigger odds for Finster due to his claim of Alignment Cop. As we know now, Finster trying to present his results about Torres wasn't really timed right and it gave the wrong impression, but adding to that, he places a vote on himself, then comes D3 where he constantly... misremembered information about the game. As far as I remember, you don't have any trouble lynching inactives, how was this case with Finster different, other than he was even more likely to turn out scum? If that's not enough to ring any warning bells for you, dear lad, it seems you're confident on knowing what his alignment was from the beginning.

 

This argument also throws further light on how you placed your vote on D2, on Torres, 26 minutes past the deadline. Was that really a mishap... or something you planned beforehand?

 

Vote -> Wolfpacks

 

Let me know what you think.

 

Oh, also, since one role out of the 18 original was thrown out, and the scum know it, we should be expecting at least 1 safe claim that's hard to back up, as the supposed "target" is already dead or wouldn't be able to know if they were visited. Everyone should role claim now, as everyone has done their night actions and there's nothing you need to hide anymore, otherwise this mass claiming won't have its desired effect.

So according to you not wanting to lynch a town player is a bad thing wow live and learn

 

 

If anyone did not catch that first part, then I role claim as Tracker n1, n3 x1 Strongman

Tracked LWW N1, his target -> The Warrior

Tracked Tony N3, his target -> Finster Baby

 

I'm surprised how strong Wolfpacks was on his position about Finster not being scum. Whenever we lynch inactive people, two reasons for it is that there exists a chance for them to be scum and by not posting they're not being helpful to town. Well, if we believed Tony's claim (which I do, evident from when he first RCd, he mentioned that LWW was tracked N1, which I can back up as I was the one to do the tracking), there existed even bigger odds for Finster due to his claim of Alignment Cop. As we know now, Finster trying to present his results about Torres wasn't really timed right and it gave the wrong impression, but adding to that, he places a vote on himself, then comes D3 where he constantly... misremembered information about the game. As far as I remember, you don't have any trouble lynching inactives, how was this case with Finster different, other than he was even more likely to turn out scum? If that's not enough to ring any warning bells for you, dear lad, it seems you're confident on knowing what his alignment was from the beginning.

 

This argument also throws further light on how you placed your vote on D2, on Torres, 26 minutes past the deadline. Was that really a mishap... or something you planned beforehand?

 

Vote -> Wolfpacks

 

Let me know what you think.

 

Oh, also, since one role out of the 18 original was thrown out, and the scum know it, we should be expecting at least 1 safe claim that's hard to back up, as the supposed "target" is already dead or wouldn't be able to know if they were visited. Everyone should role claim now, as everyone has done their night actions and there's nothing you need to hide anymore, otherwise this mass claiming won't have its desired effect.

So according to you not wanting to lynch a town player is a bad thing wow live and learn

 

 

 

no but knowing they are town when there's a 50% chance that they are scum is a bit odd. Like having knowledge the town doesn't odd, like knowing who the scum are. Especially when his defense of himself was all over the place and not based in fact.

 

You both disputed the statistics and offered no facts to back up that assertion and then you throw FoS based on us playing the statistics in the absence of better information. 

@Wolfpack are you gonna RC or not? 

Vote Count

Rafay (1): Brewersalliance,
Wolfpacks (1): Ferastical,
Brewersalliance (0):
Ferastical (0):
Captainjf (0):
Kaziocore (0):
Chaplain of death (0):
Dontavian (0):
Lyner (0):
Tony Maurice (0):
Velocity (0):
 
No Lynch (0):

Not voting: Kaziocore, Velocity, Rafay, Tony Maurice, Dontavian, Lyner, Chaplain of death, Wolfpacks, captainjf,  
 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline is Saturday, February 13 at 12:00 EST.

Yeah COD brings up a good point. Outside of finster, the only way to know finster is town would be to be mafia. Would make sense for someone who is scum and knows finster is gonna turn up town to back finster and then attack the people who went after him.

Vote Count

Rafay (1): Brewersalliance,

Wolfpacks (1): Ferastical,

Brewersalliance (0):

Ferastical (0):

Captainjf (0):

Kaziocore (0):

Chaplain of death (0):

Dontavian (0):

Lyner (0):

Tony Maurice (0):

Velocity (0):

 

No Lynch (0):

 

Not voting: Kaziocore, Velocity, Rafay, Tony Maurice, Dontavian, Lyner, Chaplain of death, Wolfpacks, captainjf,  

 

 

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

 

Deadline is Saturday, February 13 at 12:00 EST.

well this game has less like than the chiefs o line

well this game has less like than the chiefs o line

oof

 

meh heart

meh sole

Yeah COD brings up a good point. Outside of finster, the only way to know finster is town would be to be mafia. Would make sense for someone who is scum and knows finster is gonna turn up town to back finster and then attack the people who went after him.

But if I was scum why would I defend FB, it makes no sense, i would rather get rid of as certain town, I wasn't the one pushing to get him lynched

because it was gaining momentum and finster was spinning out of control.  could use it as cover

 

tho im not saying this makes you scum, im just saying its something to consider.  

because it was gaining momentum and finster was spinning out of control.  could use it as cover

 

tho im not saying this makes you scum, im just saying its something to consider.  

 

This ^

So far:

 

Watcher n1: Captainjf

Alignment Cop n2: Finster

Vigilante n2: CoD

Tracker n1 & n3: Ferastical

Jailkeeper n2 & n4: Kazio

Voyeur n1, n2, n3, n4: Tony

JoAT (Doctor, Jailkeeper, Voyeur) n1, n2, n3: Brewers

Jailkeeper n1 & n3: Dontavian

Roleblocker n2 & n4: Velocity

JoAT (Role Cop, Tracker, Roleblocker) n1, n2, n3: Lyner

 

N1 (LWW dead):

Ferastical tracked LWW, LWW target TW

Tony voyeured LWW, Tony & Ferastical targeted LWW

Brewers used doctor on TW

Captain watched MK, Donta targeted MK

Lyner role cop TW, no result

Donta jail 

 

N2 (Robert dead):

Finster alignment cop Torres, return scum

CoD vig kill Robert

Kazio jailed Rafay

Tony voyeured Dontavian, only Tony targeted Donta

Brewers jailed Rafay

Lyner track Robert, Robert targeted Brewers

 

N3 (MK & TW dead):

Ferastical tracked Tony, Tony targeted FB

Tony voyeured FB, Lyner & Tony targeted FB

Brewers voyeured Ferastical, no result

Dontavian jailed Brewers

Lyner roleblock FB

 

N4 (Nobody dead):

Tony voyeured Brewers, only Tony targeted Brewers

Velocity roleblock CoD

 

 

Feel free to correct me

 

 

 

Not sure what's taking Rafay & WP so long to RC, unless they're scums 

Ok I'm town Doctor n1, n3

N1 used doctor on Rafay

N3 Dontavian

 

Choose randomly who to pick 1st as I dint have much to go on, Rafay seem a good a choice as any.

 

Kinda went the same way with Dontavian,

 

As both are still here I can only guess it might have worked lol

 

 

I still think there is something in the Bbrewers, FB push and as I'm town Doctor I can only think the brewers is Scum

 

VOTE BREWERS

Ok I'm town Doctor n1, n3

N1 used doctor on Rafay

N3 Dontavian

 

Choose randomly who to pick 1st as I dint have much to go on, Rafay seem a good a choice as any.

 

Kinda went the same way with Dontavian,

 

As both are still here I can only guess it might have worked lol

 

 

I still think there is something in the Bbrewers, FB push and as I'm town Doctor I can only think the brewers is Scum

 

VOTE BREWERS

 

That assumption that it worked is obviously incorrect as there were still successful scum kills on those nights. Obviously irrelevant as it is a crapshoot on whether your ability would work or not in the best of situations. 

 

Why are you so stuck on brewers? You keep just throwing out "feelings" that brewers is scum because Finster flipped town. Do you have anything to back that or is it just because Finster ended up town? We made a lynch based on statistical likelihood, it ended up being wrong, but I don't see how you can be so certain that brewers alone is scum. It was his idea originally but I also agreed with him as did many others seeing as we did lynch FB.

There may have been scum kills but none on mine, also you seem pretty much with brewers on this, are you his Scum partner, yes some lynched him because of his attitude but 2 lynched him because it was a way to get rid of a town and what ever way you look at it I didn't lynch a town member