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[KH-29] Neighbors Dilemma Mafia - Odd SK Neighbor Wins!

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yes, 100% 

1) the no vote was not accepted, 

2)Isocialism appears to be inactive, he has not responded at all to the thread,

3) Mine is not the Convicting vote, 1 more is required, 

 

Thus,

it is not up to me to decide if or if not he gets lynched- but it is the remaining voters,  

so the 4th voter is likely scum, as they would get a kill

 

if he remains inactive then the vote will stand- if he responds before the deadline then we will see what happens, 

 

What's difficult about evaluating a player like NE is you don't know if the scum tells are because they are scum or if its just because they are a newer player.

 

If this was Imran or Kevin, I would be voting to lynch them right now.

 

But I honestly think that NE is just a newer player.

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yes, 100% 

1) the no vote was not accepted, 

2)Isocialism appears to be inactive, he has not responded at all to the thread,

3) Mine is not the Convicting vote, 1 more is required, 

 

Thus,

it is not up to me to decide if or if not he gets lynched- but it is the remaining voters,  

so the 4th voter is likely scum, as they would get a kill

 

if he remains inactive then the vote will stand- if he responds before the deadline then we will see what happens, 

 

To clarify Kevin only didn't accept the vote because it wasn't formatted properly. If you wanted to no-lynch you had to put it as "Vote: No Lynch." That also has to be in a separate line to count (meaning Kevin shouldn't take that as me changing my vote).

 

iSocialism has less than two days now. And per Kevin's bone iSoc isn't fully inactive as his role PM was read.

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LordSunday said it perfectly.  Votes should be formatted so they are obvious.

 

Vote count:


iSocialism (3): Imran Ehsan, LordSunday, Northern Empire,
LordSunday (1): Zacch
Imran Ehsan (0):
captainjf (0):
Northern Empire (0):
Zacch (0):

Not voting: captainjf, iSocialism,

 

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Deadline is Friday, October 20 at 12:00 EDT.
If a majority lynch is not achieved by deadline, it will be a no-lynch.
 

Note to Zacch and captain; according to rules a hammer is required before deadline. Otherwise we no-lynch. Given zero check-in and nothing else to go on iSoc does seem our best choice here today.

Note to Zacch and captain; according to rules a hammer is required before deadline. Otherwise we no-lynch. Given zero check-in and nothing else to go on iSoc does seem our best choice here today.

 

I guess time is up for Isoc.

 

Vote: Isoc

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Zacch's vote was past the deadline.
 
Vote count:


iSocialism (3): Imran Ehsan, LordSunday, Northern Empire,
LordSunday (1): Zacch
Imran Ehsan (0):
captainjf (0):
Northern Empire (0):
Zacch (0):

Not voting: captainjf, iSocialism,

Nobody is lynched.

It is now Night 1.
You may talk to your neighbors in the appropriate thread.

Day 2 will begin Monday, October 23 at 23:00 EDT
 

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Night 1 ends.
 
Zacch, a Town Neighbor, was killed in the night.
 
It is now Day 2.

Vote count:


iSocialism (0): 
LordSunday (0): 
Imran Ehsan (0):
captainjf (0):
Northern Empire (0):

Not voting: captainjf, iSocialism, Imran Ehsan, LordSunday, Northern Empire,

 

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, October 30 at 12:00 EDT.
If a majority lynch is not achieved by deadline, it will be a no-lynch.

Seems like the odd night SK made his move. Interesting choice in taking out Zacch. He didn't really look townie with his late D1 vote switch.

 

In defense of the dead he had only put that vote on me in reaction to my initial D1 vote on you. I wouldn't have assumed that was vote switching, though the vote being 1 hour late of deadline definitely hurt us.

 

With that in mind, Zacch's death presents an interesting conundrum. I've been running the whole neighbor concept through my head trying to think how an SK would react to it. In other words, would they be more inclined to keep their neighbor alive to try and have a biased ally, or kill them off to prevent the mistake of a possible slip during potential 1-on-1 conversation at night?

 

Vote: iSocialism

 

You aren't escaping today without a word.

 

Seems like the odd night SK made his move. Interesting choice in taking out Zacch. He didn't really look townie with his late D1 vote switch.

 

 

 

I've been running the whole neighbor concept through my head trying to think how an SK would react to it. In other words, would they be more inclined to keep their neighbor alive to try and have a biased ally, or kill them off to prevent the mistake of a possible slip during potential 1-on-1 conversation at night?

 

I had the very same thought process, 

I think the strategy a SK would use is to keep their neighbor alive and try and pit the other pairs against eachother. I can't quite figure out why the SK would chose the last vote on iSoc, unless iSoc is playing without playing?

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Vote count:


iSocialism (1): LordSunday,
LordSunday (0): 
Imran Ehsan (0):
captainjf (0):
Northern Empire (0):

Not voting: captainjf, iSocialism, Imran Ehsan, Northern Empire,

 
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, October 30 at 12:00 EDT.
If a majority lynch is not achieved by deadline, it will be a no-lynch.

There are 2 SKs in this game and they are not working as a team. I think the strategy that the odd night SK used was trying to take out the even-night SK, because the even-night SK comes into play this night and he may be the target. So it is possible the odd night SK saw something in Zacchs posts that made him think he was the other SK. Because otherwise, I dont see why SK will kill Zacch unless he was trying to frame someone for the lynch. 


 

 

With that in mind, Zacch's death presents an interesting conundrum. I've been running the whole neighbor concept through my head trying to think how an SK would react to it. In other words, would they be more inclined to keep their neighbor alive to try and have a biased ally, or kill them off to prevent the mistake of a possible slip during potential 1-on-1 conversation at night?

 

I think this is in everyones minds. I would say this will become more vital after 1-2 more people have been killed/lynched, because then we can start pairing up people and zero in who the SK partners of killed townies are. 


interesting

 

Good to see you have shown up. Want to elaborate on your thoughts?

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Vote count:


iSocialism (1): LordSunday,
LordSunday (0): 
Imran Ehsan (0):
captainjf (0):
Northern Empire (0):

Not voting: captainjf, iSocialism, Imran Ehsan, Northern Empire,

 
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, October 30 at 12:00 EDT.
If a majority lynch is not achieved by deadline, it will be a no-lynch.

2 days with no responses, 

everybody's a bit skittish to not self incriminate? 

 

that being said, 

because Isoc does seem to be playing ( without playing) i do believe he is waiting for everybody to point fingers at each other to thin the ranks, 

 

for that reason 

Vote : ISocial

Being active and not being active is a moot point. It's a baseless claim that cannot be backed up. There's not much to go on, and this is the only one.

 

I didn't see any where I can't claim my neighbor. Which is Lord Sunday.

 

I know the claim is and will be that I only showed up when the pressure was on, but that is not the case. This game only has barely 3 pages towards the end of day two. What do you want me say. I find my self forgetting about the game, and I don't think I'm the only one.

I woke up to this curveball that I did not expect from iSoc...

 

I've been fairly confident this entire time that he's been a quiet scum trying to stay hidden in the shadows. Being that he is my neighbor only heightened this suspicion. Now, I'm no longer sure. Simply put if iSoc weren't a townie there'd be little reason for him to ouster our connection unless he and I are actually the townie neighbors and he was intending to help the town by revealing his neighbor and (to him) a potential SK. I want to hear from others on this but this does change the dynamic of today for now...

 

A good point is brought up though the activity note. We're again a day from deadline and need to reach a majority. We really cannot afford another no-lynch and risk dragging the town down to a potential 2-2. Yes, the SK could hit the other SK by chance, but we really shouldn't risk that.

 

 

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EDIT: If my above note is correct and iSoc and myself are in fact the townie neighbors, by reason the lynch should be whoever Zacch's neighbor was.

iSoc's post comes across to me as very defensive, and definitely showing up when the pressure was on. I admit, I've been forgetting about the game as well, but as brought up, that is a moot point.

iSoc's post comes across to me as very defensive, and definitely showing up when the pressure was on. I admit, I've been forgetting about the game as well, but as brought up, that is a moot point.

 

While that's fair consider this from my perspective. If he's an SK, what did he just gain by openly stating his neighbor? It come across as defensive yes, but from my perspective my neighbor just did a very townie thing by revealing that.

 

I know we discussed it being a poor idea on Day 1, but given this we should be made aware of the other neighbor group. And if iSoc and I are in fact the town pair then Zacch's now-solo neighbor is one of our SKs.

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Vote count:


iSocialism (1): Northern Empire,
LordSunday (0): 
Imran Ehsan (0):
captainjf (0):
Northern Empire (0):

Not voting: captainjf, iSocialism, Imran Ehsan, LordSunday, 

 
With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday, October 30 at 12:00 EDT.
If a majority lynch is not achieved by deadline, it will be a no-lynch.

Unfortunately to iSoc's point the activity in this game is pretty sluggish. I doubt we'll hit a lynch decision again and the sad reality here is this is only going to hurt the town.

 

My final thoughts for today are this. Whoever Zacch's neighbor was should be identified and is likely one of our two SKs. For a while I thought the second was iSocialism, but with the past day I no longer feel that's the case. I am now inclined to think that he and I are actually the townie pair.

 

As far as individuals, I'm most suspicious of NE. Prior to the end of Day 1 he both flipped his vote very quickly, tried to use the fact he set up hammer 3 days prior to deadline as a reason for not being scum, and today contributed little more than yet another hammer setup and a single quote agreeing with vague points from myself and Imran.

 

Quite frankly, given the fact he could have hammered and chose not to I'm not very suspicious of captain. He's seemed most consistently town and stuck to his points fairly consistently (for the little activity we've had.)

 

Bearing the above in mind, and how the votes currently stand, I think there's really only one choice left for today.

 

Vote: Imran Ehsan

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Vote count:


Imran Ehsan (2): iSocialism, LordSunday, 
iSocialism (1): Northern Empire,
LordSunday (0): 
captainjf (0):
Northern Empire (0):

Not voting: captainjf, Imran Ehsan, 

 
Deadline has passed with no majority so Day 2 ends with a no-lynch.

It is now Night 2.
You may talk with your neighbors and submit actions until 11:00 EDT on Wednesday, November 1.

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