wow that was a fast one all while I sleeping.

 

since my eyes are between CD and junk, and SJ thinks it's CD...

 

Vote: CanucksDynasty

 

if he turns up town, i'm quite sure it's junk then.

Just thought i'd drop in real quick and let you know that CanucksDynasty is at 3 votes.

@AoD & Aquinas - with my impending lynch...once you find my to be townie...please trust each other. My analysis shows that both of you are pro-town.

 

In order of next lynch, I would go...

1) Falzis - don't believe his late claim as a SAGE

2) SJ - he can't control his abilities seems a bit off...I mean...AoD...your new role as doc...is there any significant limitations?

3) junk - I really think he's townie but no proof of it.

I'm gonna go ahead and

 

vote: CanucksDynasty

 

Something about him doesn't sit right with me... I really wish I could describe why.

 

And that is different how against Falzis?

I'm right there with you. My logical conclusion is out the door and at this point it seems like we are all thinking with out guts.

 

 

 

In that case...

 

Vote: CanucksDynasty

 

And...you will find you are wrong again.

wow that was a fast one all while I sleeping.

 

since my eyes are between CD and junk, and SJ thinks it's CD...

 

Vote: CanucksDynasty

 

if he turns up town, i'm quite sure it's junk then.

 

I still don't believe your late roleclaim.

I've made my case that you weren't a vanilla townie and I was right.

You may have thought up a clever counter part to the summoner but it doesn't fool me.

 

In case anyone is wondering...Falzis never switched his vote to EM when he got outed.

That was because I was sure by then that (old) AoD was a scum also and that EM already got majority lynch votes. Had I switched people would still say I was bandwagoning and "blending" in. If that is your criteria, then mole or the new AoD should be lynched as well since he didn't switch votes to EM after SJ outed EM.

 

That's why I think junk is more likely scum than you based on the sequence of voting there, but since SJ thinks you're scum and I was choosing between you and junk anyway, then I voted for you. Again, if you turn up town, I'll vote for junk asap.

 

I've always suggested in this thread way before D4 that the summoner might have a counterpart. Plus, I'm guessing that the summoner's win condition might have something to do with my death since this game is so lopsided against him (no NK ability after EM dies and doesn't know who the self-aligneds are, a different faction from him).

well, my math was shot straight to hell...

well, i now think falzis is scum. kevinh hinted at being the town wizard (the: "mage in cage filled with rage" poem). discuss. and no quick lynches again please...

Alright well, call me a flip flopper if you want. Maybe I am. I'm not surprised anymore to hear scum feeling threatened to start to make really long winded speeches in their defense. I'm not saying its scummy to write a long post but, it just seems like the norm.

 

Also, CannucksDynasty has been good to me the whole game and I owe him one for backing me up on Crazyemolad. Sir Jesus, I owe you too. You also switched over to who I thought the summoner was. Now, I'd like to return the favor.

Unvote

Vote: Falzis

see your doing it again, your close to a lynch and your trying to get us to focus on someone new at the last minute.

 

@Sir Jesus

 

whats your reasoning on voting for CD besides your gut?

That was because I was sure by then that (old) AoD was a scum also and that EM already got majority lynch votes. Had I switched people would still say I was bandwagoning and "blending" in. If that is your criteria, then mole or the new AoD should be lynched as well since he didn't switch votes to EM after SJ outed EM.

 

That's why I think junk is more likely scum than you based on the sequence of voting there, but since SJ thinks you're scum and I was choosing between you and junk anyway, then I voted for you. Again, if you turn up town, I'll vote for junk asap.

 

I've always suggested in this thread way before D4 that the summoner might have a counterpart. Plus, I'm guessing that the summoner's win condition might have something to do with my death since this game is so lopsided against him (no NK ability after EM dies and doesn't know who the self-aligneds are, a different faction from him).

 

I doubt it. I don't think a mod would purposely have the mafia could win by eliminating just one person. One lucky lynch and it's game over. I think you just said that so that the town won't vote you at all thus ensuring you to be among the last one alive.

 

I think the game turned out to be so lopsided when EM got lynched on D2 and there was no foresight to allow mafia to continue killing during the night. Unless mafia still have their nk to throw the town off and catch them off-guard in the later rounds. And I agree that the self-aligned voting each other off didn't help the mafia cause either.

Alright well, call me a flip flopper if you want. Maybe I am. I'm not surprised anymore to hear scum feeling threatened to start to make really long winded speeches in their defense. I'm not saying its scummy to write a long post but, it just seems like the norm.

 

Also, CannucksDynasty has been good to me the whole game and I owe him one for backing me up on Crazyemolad. Sir Jesus, I owe you too. You also switched over to who I thought the summoner was. Now, I'd like to return the favor.

Unvote

Vote: Falzis

 

My voting record speaks for itself.

 

What if I told you that my win condition was the elimination of the summoner? Conversely analyzing it, I came up with that assumption as the summoner is my counterpart. If I'm right, that's why you're pushing so hard for my neck (if you're the summoner).

My voting record speaks for itself.

 

What if I told you that my win condition was the elimination of the summoner? Conversely analyzing it, I came up with that assumption as the summoner is my counterpart. If I'm right, that's why you're pushing so hard for my neck (if you're the summoner).

 

 

If that was true...you should have been hunting the summoner all along.

Why would you vote for AoD or Kaziocore then???

You knew they weren't the summoner.

 

You could have made a case among many of the others but chose to pick off players you knew the town wouldn't mind getting rid of.

No. Because for one, I don't know who the summoner is. I was sure AoD wasn't pro-town given a conflicting roleclaim by mole while Kaziocore roleclaimed. Why shouldn't I push for their lynches? They weren't pro-town and it would weaken the summoner. Plus, it would lead me to the summoner eventually by seeing the voting patterns, which I am seeing now.

My voting record speaks for itself.

 

What if I told you that my win condition was the elimination of the summoner? Conversely analyzing it, I came up with that assumption as the summoner is my counterpart. If I'm right, that's why you're pushing so hard for my neck (if you're the summoner).

 

 

I don't think you have any real grounds to threaten me here. I've voted for a self aligned power role controlled by the non-town summoner every time. I've missed one lynch on Crazyemolad where his voting record did indeed indicate him to be the summoner. I have barely accused you in the entire game and at times come to your defense. Although, at this time I am out of fresh ideas. You've been a concern the entire game however. I am not pushing hard for your neck at all. I am simply working with those who I believe to be townie to find the summoner. They joined with me to lynch Crazyemolad, now I'll be party to CannucksDynasty's hunch and vote for you. I think it is as good of a shot as any. Especially sense he has been on you the whole game. If he was non-town looking to lynch townies he would have been able to rally for an extra vote here or there and lynch them instead of hunting you the whole game.

 

I'm still suspicious about both CannucksDynasty and Junkahoolik though.

I suppose that doesn't matter if you turn out to be the good wizard though and I lose because I helped lynch my own summoner...

However, my win condition seems to imply that a win for me (and thus the town) does not require the summoner to be alive at the end of the game. So, I'll take a chance here. If we lynch you and you are town that would leave myself and Sir Jesus as townies and CannucksDynasty and Junkahoolik as scum candidates. Junkahoolik doesn't say much anymore. I wonder if he is just sitting back waiting for the town to crumble upon itself. My foresight (as near sighted as it may be) tells me that if we kill you Junkahoolik would probably go next. If he turns out to be scum that leaves myself, CannucksDynasty and SirJesus Between me and CannucksDynasty then (who would be forced to vote against each other) I would hope that SirJesus would side with me sighting my voting record against non-townie personal as much as possible.

 

So, my vote on you stays.

What do you mean by threaten you?

 

Hmm sorry but the second paragraph was pointed towards CD. >.<

I doubt it. I don't think a mod would purposely have the mafia could win by eliminating just one person. One lucky lynch and it's game over. I think you just said that so that the town won't vote you at all thus ensuring you to be among the last one alive.

 

I think the game turned out to be so lopsided when EM got lynched on D2 and there was no foresight to allow mafia to continue killing during the night. Unless mafia still have their nk to throw the town off and catch them off-guard in the later rounds. And I agree that the self-aligned voting each other off didn't help the mafia cause either.

 

What if I told you that my win condition was the elimination of the summoner? Conversely analyzing it, I came up with that assumption as the summoner is my counterpart. If I'm right, that's why you're pushing so hard for my neck (if you're the summoner).

 

(it should be read like this)

I don't think you have any real grounds to threaten me here. I've voted for a self aligned power role controlled by the non-town summoner every time. I've missed one lynch on Crazyemolad where his voting record did indeed indicate him to be the summoner. I have barely accused you in the entire game and at times come to your defense. Although, at this time I am out of fresh ideas. You've been a concern the entire game however. I am not pushing hard for your neck at all. I am simply working with those who I believe to be townie to find the summoner. They joined with me to lynch Crazyemolad, now I'll be party to CannucksDynasty's hunch and vote for you. I think it is as good of a shot as any. Especially sense he has been on you the whole game. If he was non-town looking to lynch townies he would have been able to rally for an extra vote here or there and lynch them instead of hunting you the whole game.

 

I'm still suspicious about both CannucksDynasty and Junkahoolik though.

I suppose that doesn't matter if you turn out to be the good wizard though and I lose because I helped lynch my own summoner...

However, my win condition seems to imply that a win for me (and thus the town) does not require the summoner to be alive at the end of the game. So, I'll take a chance here. If we lynch you and you are town that would leave myself and Sir Jesus as townies and CannucksDynasty and Junkahoolik as scum candidates. Junkahoolik doesn't say much anymore. I wonder if he is just sitting back waiting for the town to crumble upon itself. My foresight (as near sighted as it may be) tells me that if we kill you Junkahoolik would probably go next. If he turns out to be scum that leaves myself, CannucksDynasty and SirJesus Between me and CannucksDynasty then (who would be forced to vote against each other) I would hope that SirJesus would side with me sighting my voting record against non-townie personal as much as possible.

 

So, my vote on you stays.

 

I don't know why but suddenly I'm getting a bad vibe from this post. Too defensive. Let's assume radically that since the summoner didn't know who the self-aligneds were, if you were the summoner, you could have voted for your own powers unwittingly (and of course blended in perfectly). Your reciprocation of CD's vote of confidence to your target of crazyemolad may be a strategy.

 

This is of course very much a big guesswork. My eyes are still on CD or junk.

 

I'm telling you I'm town.

No. Because for one, I don't know who the summoner is. I was sure AoD wasn't pro-town given a conflicting roleclaim by mole while Kaziocore roleclaimed. Why shouldn't I push for their lynches? They weren't pro-town and it would weaken the summoner. Plus, it would lead me to the summoner eventually by seeing the voting patterns, which I am seeing now.

 

 

The summoner is already weak cuz he doesn't (presumably) have nk ability anymore.

And he no longer had a need for the doc or cop since the pro-town roles have already been identified.

What's the use of keeping self-aligned if they can't help you out during the night anymore?

Voting for self-aligned is just a way to fend off the lynch that was in motion on D4.

 

 

So what does the voting pattern tell you???

 

CD - D1=No Vote, D2=EM, D3=Falzis, D4=Kaziocore, D5=crazyemolad, D6=Falzis

junk - D1=No Vote, D2=EM, D3=Falzis, D4=crazyemolad, D5=crazyemolad, D6=no vote yet

Falzis - D1=CV/Aquinas, D2=AoD, D3=AoD, D4=Kaziocore, D5=junkahoolik, D6=CanucksDynasty

CV/Aquinas - D1=KevinH , D2=EM, D3=AoD, D4=Kaziocore, D5=crazyemolad, D6=Falzis

SJ - D1=CV/Aquinas , D2=EM, D3=AoD, D4=Falzis, D5=No Vote, D6=CanucksDynasty

mole/AoD - D1=KevinH, D2=AoD, D3=AoD, D4=Kaziocore, D5=crazyemolad, D6=Falzis

I don't know why but suddenly I'm getting a bad vibe from this post. Too defensive. Let's assume radically that since the summoner didn't know who the self-aligneds were, if you were the summoner, you could have voted for your own powers unwittingly (and of course blended in perfectly). Your reciprocation of CD's vote of confidence to your target of crazyemolad may be a strategy.

 

This is of course very much a big guesswork. My eyes are still on CD or junk.

 

I'm telling you I'm town.

 

 

I doubt it.

I haven't seen such specific win conditions of eliminating one person to win in any games I've played.

 

 

1 confirmed pro-town role (KevinH wizard vig)

3 confirmed self-aligned roles (EM, AoD, Kaziocore)

2 confirmed vanilla townies (Martino and crazyemolad).

 

There are 6 players left.

 

SJ - roleclaimed seer.

mole/AoD - roleclaimed doc.

Falzis - roleclaimed sage (who's win condition is to eliminate the summoner...I call BS on this one).

junk - I suspect as vanilla townie 100%...could have voted to eliminate me already but didn't.

Aquinas - I suspect as vanilla townie 100%...analysis since D3.

CD - me...roleclaimed vanilla townie since D3.

 

I am willing to be lynch the next day if Falzis turns up as the SAGE.

falzis, if i wanted you dead, i could have simply not asked you to roleclaim when you were at l-1. guess that proves that i'm either not the summoner or, in case i would be, that i didn't use kazio on you. so your post about me hunting you because i'm the summoner and i know you are the sage fails.

 

also, i'm not posting much right now cause i'm kind'a lost right now. falzis looks most suspicious right now. but, also, i'm starting to think that maybe EM was right. i mean, if he was self aligned, there wasn't a way for him to win the game with the summoner if he got lynched... but i don't know...

falzis, if i wanted you dead, i could have simply not asked you to roleclaim when you were at l-1. guess that proves that i'm either not the summoner or, in case i would be, that i didn't use kazio on you. so your post about me hunting you because i'm the summoner and i know you are the sage fails.

 

also, i'm not posting much right now cause i'm kind'a lost right now. falzis looks most suspicious right now. but, also, i'm starting to think that maybe EM was right. i mean, if he was self aligned, there wasn't a way for him to win the game with the summoner if he got lynched... but i don't know...

 

That's one of the reason I have SJ listed before you in my lynch priority (in my previous post).

@junk

 

hmm.. yeah. Well, frankly I don't know anything anymore either. everything's screwed up. but you do seem townie since you're giving me the benefit of the doubt and not quick lynching me.

 

i'm lost as to what you want to point out re what EM said. i'm not getting it.

 

@cd

 

i don't know what to say to you anymore. i told you, why shouldn't i gun down self-aligneds when i knew for sure who they were. why would i go on a goose chase for the summoner without an inkling yet of who he was?

The summoner is already weak cuz he doesn't (presumably) have nk ability anymore.

And he no longer had a need for the doc or cop since the pro-town roles have already been identified.

What's the use of keeping self-aligned if they can't help you out during the night anymore?

Voting for self-aligned is just a way to fend off the lynch that was in motion on D4.

 

We only knew the summoner was harmless after several nights without nk. So it was still good precautionary measure to go after his controlleds. The pro-town roles have been identified except mine. Plus, I was the very first one to vote for Kazio. If you guys really wanted to lynch me, why did you switch? It would seem to me that you wanted to appear agreeable with Aquinas that's why you conceded to him. You fended off the lynch, not me.

 

The bolded part seems to be a freudian slip. It looks like a statement from the perspective of a summoner. If you were town you would have said "What's the use of lynching self-aligned if they can't help (or be of use to) the summoner out during the night anymore?". With the way you said it, it seems like the summoner wouldn't have a hard time voting in day lynches against his self-aligneds since they are of no value... hmm......