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[Electric Mango]

I still don't understand the benefit of your role claim of an item than can prevent night kills. Going into tonight you still could have been targeted as a night kill. If we lynch a townie than the nk would be lynch or lose, and you had a chance of stopping it.

I don't see why you would say that if you were really pro town

[CanucksDynasty]

I still don't understand the benefit of your role claim of an item than can prevent night kills. Going into tonight you still could have been targeted as a night kill. If we lynch a townie than the nk would be lynch or lose, and you had a chance of stopping it.

I don't see why you would say that if you were really pro town

It's LYLO....what part of that don't you understand?

I never had a chance of stopping the nk in the first place.
I could detect but not prevent.
The item has a "passive" ability...means I don't get to choose.
That's why I came out to tell everyone what I had.
Going into the night with a mis-lynch would still mean game over unless townies get really lucky.

That's why I'm putting out the info for the town.
So they can make the best decision to lynch mafia.

[Electric Mango]

I mean I got the item on N1.
It's a passive item...meaning it will work if conditions are met.
In order for it to work...mafia had to target me since I'm just a vanilla townie.
So I kept it quiet hoping for them to night kill me.
That didn't happen.

It's LYLO....what part of that don't you understand?

I never had a chance of stopping the nk in the first place.
I could detect but not prevent.
The item has a "passive" ability...means I don't get to choose.
That's why I came out to tell everyone what I had.
Going into the night with a mis-lynch would still mean game over unless townies get really lucky.

That's why I'm putting out the info for the town.
So they can make the best decision to lynch mafia.

So you picked up an item that will detect when you are dead? We already have that, it's called the death scene and Mole writes it. What good is this item?

[Narsis]

True...but I hardly believe that I was the only one to pick up an item.

agreed.

so who else has an item?

[Narsis]

So you picked up an item that will detect when you are dead? We already have that, it's called the death scene and Mole writes it. What good is this item?

was wondering that myself...

[CanucksDynasty]

So you picked up an item that will detect when you are dead? We already have that, it's called the death scene and Mole writes it. What good is this item?

You are putting words into my mouth.
I said I could detect but not prevent.
If was killed...then the mafia person who killed me would be revealed.

The death scene only reveals that I am dead.

[Falzis]

So if you died, we would know who killed you?

[Electric Mango]

But if we lynch a scum today, tonight will not be lynch or lose. Your item still has value, why would you waste a great opportunity like that?

[CanucksDynasty]

So if you died, we would know who killed you?

Correct.
It's not an all-powerful item but has it's uses.

[CanucksDynasty]

But if we lynch a scum today, tonight will not be lynch or lose. Your item still has value, why would you waste a great opportunity like that?

That's only if we lynch mafia.
IF we didn't... then the item has no value.
See what I did thar?

Since KevinH got nk...I thought I had a 1/3 chance of being nk next (ie. Martino, CD, EM).
Instead Kazio got nk'd.

[Electric Mango]

Well I assume that we would try to win every game of mafia, this one included. That's why we try to do every thing we can to win. You found an item. It tells us who the mafia is if you're killed. So you're basically saying, meh, I'll give up that chance. This doesn't make any sense to me. You claiming you had this item helps does not help the town. You giving up the chance to use it does.

Your reasoning just does not make sense.

[CanucksDynasty]

Well I assume that we would try to win every game of mafia, this one included. That's why we try to do every thing we can to win. You found an item. It tells us who the mafia is if you're killed. So you're basically saying, meh, I'll give up that chance. This doesn't make any sense to me. You claiming you had this item helps does not help the town. You giving up the chance to use it does.

Your reasoning just does not make sense.

EVERTYHING WE CAN DO TO WIN!!!

That's the reason I put that info for the town to see.
So that they can best make an informed decision.
To reduce the odds so that we have a better % at lynching mafia.

I had a 1/5 chance of being nk'd.
What's the likelyhood of that happenening after I defended SinKon from a possible lynch on D3?

[Martino]

EVERTYHING WE CAN DO TO WIN!!!

That's the reason I put that info for the town to see.
So that they can best make an informed decision.

How does it help us make a more informed decision? Assuming for a moment that you are a townie, how will the information that you claim to have an item that could have helped us had you not made it public knowledge help us lynch mafia?

To reduce the odds so that we have a better % at lynching mafia.

Reduce what odds? Do you think we should give you a free pass simply because you claim to have found an item?

I had a 1/5 chance of being nk'd.

Which you reduced to zero by coming clear about your item the way you did. I still fail to understand why you would play it the way you did if you are a townie.

What's the likelyhood of that happenening after I defended SinKon from a possible lynch on D3?

Actually, that depends on the alignment of SinKon. If SinKon is a townie, I see no reason why you would not get nightkilled after defending him. If on the other hand he is scum, I could see why he would not want to NK you. However, you are stating this as if there was no chance of you getting nightkilled after defending SinKon. Which implies that you know SinKon to be scum. Which means that you are either the cop or scum. Since you are not voting for SinKon and because your claims do not seem to indicate that you are the cop, I think you are scum together with SinKon.

SFOS: CD

[Falzis]

1. Narsis
3. Electric Mango
5. Samus
8. SinKon
9. Falzis
11. Aquinas
12. CanucksDynasty
13. Martino

Sinkon and CD are more or less clearly tied now in terms of association. EM and Martino are on the opposite side of the fence of CD and also associated because of attacking CD's logic.

It's either EM and Martino are scum or CD is scum. EM is more townie for me so I would say Martino is as well, and CD is more scummy. Therefore, Sinkon is more scummy (since he was already scummy to me way way before).

If CD is scum, his buddies should be defending him. No one has been defending CD. But that could be because Sinkon is nowhere to be found. As for another one, I am slightly at lost who the third scum could be.

Aquinas has also been critical of CD while Narsis hasn't been critical nor supportive of CD. But I would suspect Narsis more than Aquinas because of reasons past (such as the role claim that wasn't a role claim).

Therefore for me, the three most likely possible candidates for scum are Sinkon, CD and Narsis.

I would like others to give their three likely scum candidates too.

[Electric Mango]

I don't have strong anti-town vibes from anyone other than CD at the moment.

SFOS: CD


What does everyone else think?

[Narsis]

i will say that i dont know anything about CDs role.

even so...it's a tough decision.

hmm...

what's the vote count like?

[Narsis]

what's the vote count like?

nvm just looked back.

Vote: Martino

let the games begin...

[CanucksDynasty]

I still give EM townie points for spotting the inactive crazyemolad.
I still give Narsis townie points for coming up with the game-breaker plan that recalled rule #5.1 (movement restrictions).

I give Samus and SinKon a break since both were roles that were replaced.
I don't think AoD or Firkked would have given up a plum juicy mafia role.


At this point...I would suspect Martino, Aquinas, and Falzis as the 3 scum candidates.
All 3 haven't been really active in scum-hunting.
Also Falzis lumps Narsis as a possible scum eventhough Narsis came up with the D1 townie strategy.

[CanucksDynasty]

To all who think I am scum...why o why would I kill Kaziocore??
He defended SinKon as well.

IF I was mafia in league with SinKon...why would I nk a townie that believed SinKon was townie????

IF I was mafia...I would have targeted Martino or EM (cuz they are veterans).

[CanucksDynasty]

IF I was mafia in league with SinKon...why would I kill Kaziocore (a townie) that believed SinKon was townie????