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[Aquinas]

Alright, I did not want to do this unless it was necessary. I think under the circumstances it is. We have two very strong opinions against someone I know to be a townie if my familiarity with the mechanics is correct. I am weary of both Martino and Electric Mango's SFOS and it seems like people are getting ready to vote. With the current situation lynching a townie makes us loose so, exposing what seems to be the closest thing to a cop role seems to me like it is a must do.

Spending the night before last all cramped up in my room I happened to role over onto a monocle. Experimenting with the device I realized that I could better track the whereabouts of specific individuals if I concentrated real hard on my surroundings. I am able to use the monocle to track and individual in my room as well as the rooms adjacent to mine. Last night, I decided to pay extra close attention to CanucksDynasty. Why him? I kept CanucksDynasty in my monocle because game after game I find myself trusting him which is a bad habit because he is a serious veteran player that could easily deceive me. I did not assume that he was scum at this point but, at the time I was lost for leads so following CanucksDynasty I was hoping to confirm my trust in someone. I believe I did just that. Unfortunately last night we lost a good man, Kaziocore. Fortunately, he was killed in a room right next to me. He spent his last moments in the cockpit as I stayed awake all night in a room on the left side of the plane just outside the cockpit. During the night, with my power to squint real hard into a circular piece of glass I did not see CanucksDynasty in the room. Another unfortunate fact, because I need to squint so hard looking for one person I was unable to see who actually killed Kaziocore.

I hope I am able to drop suspicion on CanucksDynasty with this information. I find him to be an excellent player, one whose posts I enjoy above most others. Also, throughout this flight I have found him to be a generally trustworthy passenger. I am disappointing he has taken up a liking to his caps lock button and lost his cool but, I can understand his frustration.

Martino and Electric Mango, I think its time you look elsewhere and I hope CanucksDynasty (a much better scum detector than myself) can lead our fellow innocent members of this flight to kill the scum who survived the crash with us. I will do what I can with my monocle tonight as I safely tucked it away during the crash. However, unless someone happened to find a first aid kit in the cargo hold I feel relatively vulnerable. I wish I had stumbled upon this piece sooner I find it to be quite exquisite.

I challenged Electric Mango recently to wake from his slumber recently and show us some of the skill he played with in previous encounters. He has done just that. Its a shame that it seems to me his efforts have focused on a friendly passenger. As of yet I am unsure whether to cite this as circumstance of CanucksDynasty's recent behavior which I admit is less than passive or because he was intentionally trying to mislead us. I am more critical of Martino. I believe Martino has been hiding more than Electric Mango recently. Martino creeps out from between the seats of our airliner now after we have crash landed hoping to have some kind of sway. I am concerned that he has only shown himself now to dominate the island and take terrorist supremacy of the land. I will review his voting record as well as that of Electric Mango and see what I can find. I implore CanucksDynasty to do the same as well as our other innocent survivors. Good luck gentlemen, lets not give in just yet.



((Also...SinKon was killed just recently in this other game. It feels strange to use this as evidence in out current game. MOD: Should I know better than to bring up events in the other game as evidence in this one?))

[CanucksDynasty]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Aquinas.
I hope that clears me of further suspicion.

Provided I survive the lynch...I am asking to be paired with you (Aquinas) at night.
I didn't reveal everything about the item I found.


At this point...my direction turns to Martino, EM and Falzis.
All whom placed SFOS on me.
As easy lynch target since I lost my cool.
All of them asking if this is correct...perhaps waiting for 2 townies to place their votes on me before swooping in to place 3 consecutive votes.

SFOS: Martino, EM, and Falzis.

I already voted for Martino.
As did Narsis.

[Narsis]

Alright, I did not want to do this unless it was necessary. I think under the circumstances it is. We have two very strong opinions against someone I know to be a townie if my familiarity with the mechanics is correct. I am weary of both Martino and Electric Mango's SFOS and it seems like people are getting ready to vote. With the current situation lynching a townie makes us loose so, exposing what seems to be the closest thing to a cop role seems to me like it is a must do.

Spending the night before last all cramped up in my room I happened to role over onto a monocle. Experimenting with the device I realized that I could better track the whereabouts of specific individuals if I concentrated real hard on my surroundings. I am able to use the monocle to track and individual in my room as well as the rooms adjacent to mine. Last night, I decided to pay extra close attention to CanucksDynasty. Why him? I kept CanucksDynasty in my monocle because game after game I find myself trusting him which is a bad habit because he is a serious veteran player that could easily deceive me. I did not assume that he was scum at this point but, at the time I was lost for leads so following CanucksDynasty I was hoping to confirm my trust in someone. I believe I did just that. Unfortunately last night we lost a good man, Kaziocore. Fortunately, he was killed in a room right next to me. He spent his last moments in the cockpit as I stayed awake all night in a room on the left side of the plane just outside the cockpit. During the night, with my power to squint real hard into a circular piece of glass I did not see CanucksDynasty in the room. Another unfortunate fact, because I need to squint so hard looking for one person I was unable to see who actually killed Kaziocore.

I hope I am able to drop suspicion on CanucksDynasty with this information. I find him to be an excellent player, one whose posts I enjoy above most others. Also, throughout this flight I have found him to be a generally trustworthy passenger. I am disappointing he has taken up a liking to his caps lock button and lost his cool but, I can understand his frustration.

Martino and Electric Mango, I think its time you look elsewhere and I hope CanucksDynasty (a much better scum detector than myself) can lead our fellow innocent members of this flight to kill the scum who survived the crash with us. I will do what I can with my monocle tonight as I safely tucked it away during the crash. However, unless someone happened to find a first aid kit in the cargo hold I feel relatively vulnerable. I wish I had stumbled upon this piece sooner I find it to be quite exquisite.

I challenged Electric Mango recently to wake from his slumber recently and show us some of the skill he played with in previous encounters. He has done just that. Its a shame that it seems to me his efforts have focused on a friendly passenger. As of yet I am unsure whether to cite this as circumstance of CanucksDynasty's recent behavior which I admit is less than passive or because he was intentionally trying to mislead us. I am more critical of Martino. I believe Martino has been hiding more than Electric Mango recently. Martino creeps out from between the seats of our airliner now after we have crash landed hoping to have some kind of sway. I am concerned that he has only shown himself now to dominate the island and take terrorist supremacy of the land. I will review his voting record as well as that of Electric Mango and see what I can find. I implore CanucksDynasty to do the same as well as our other innocent survivors. Good luck gentlemen, lets not give in just yet.



((Also...SinKon was killed just recently in this other game. It feels strange to use this as evidence in out current game. MOD: Should I know better than to bring up events in the other game as evidence in this one?))

ok so you tracked CD, and he didnt move to kill Kazio.

just for clarification: on which night did you get the item?

[Martino]

Alright, I did not want to do this unless it was necessary. I think under the circumstances it is. We have two very strong opinions against someone I know to be a townie if my familiarity with the mechanics is correct. I am weary of both Martino and Electric Mango's SFOS and it seems like people are getting ready to vote. With the current situation lynching a townie makes us loose so, exposing what seems to be the closest thing to a cop role seems to me like it is a must do.

Spending the night before last all cramped up in my room I happened to role over onto a monocle. Experimenting with the device I realized that I could better track the whereabouts of specific individuals if I concentrated real hard on my surroundings. I am able to use the monocle to track and individual in my room as well as the rooms adjacent to mine. Last night, I decided to pay extra close attention to CanucksDynasty. Why him? I kept CanucksDynasty in my monocle because game after game I find myself trusting him which is a bad habit because he is a serious veteran player that could easily deceive me. I did not assume that he was scum at this point but, at the time I was lost for leads so following CanucksDynasty I was hoping to confirm my trust in someone. I believe I did just that. Unfortunately last night we lost a good man, Kaziocore. Fortunately, he was killed in a room right next to me. He spent his last moments in the cockpit as I stayed awake all night in a room on the left side of the plane just outside the cockpit. During the night, with my power to squint real hard into a circular piece of glass I did not see CanucksDynasty in the room. Another unfortunate fact, because I need to squint so hard looking for one person I was unable to see who actually killed Kaziocore.

Okay, so CD did not do the NK, but I am not convinced that this really clears CD. I think it is safe to assume we have three mafia players. In the beginning of the game, night actions were only allowed in your own room and in adjacent rooms. From there it seems safe to assume that the mafia had to designate someone to do the night kill (since not all mafia players could reach the same room). Therefore, if CD is mafia there is only a 1/3 chance that he would be the one to do the night kill.

I challenged Electric Mango recently to wake from his slumber recently and show us some of the skill he played with in previous encounters. He has done just that. Its a shame that it seems to me his efforts have focused on a friendly passenger. As of yet I am unsure whether to cite this as circumstance of CanucksDynasty's recent behavior which I admit is less than passive or because he was intentionally trying to mislead us. I am more critical of Martino. I believe Martino has been hiding more than Electric Mango recently. Martino creeps out from between the seats of our airliner now after we have crash landed hoping to have some kind of sway. I am concerned that he has only shown himself now to dominate the island and take terrorist supremacy of the land. I will review his voting record as well as that of Electric Mango and see what I can find. I implore CanucksDynasty to do the same as well as our other innocent survivors. Good luck gentlemen, lets not give in just yet.

I don't quite understand where the believe that I have not been contributing the last few days comes from. I could understand it if you were talking about the beginning of the game. I didn't have any big suspicions back then, so there was no case for me to make. However, the last two days I have been more vocal and have made real cases against two players. Yesterday I made a case against SinKon. A few people seemed to agree and it was looking like he was going to get lynched. The next day I log in to find SJ lynched with 6 votes based on hardly anything. I believe more blame is to be cast on the people who quickly lynched SJ without too much of a case, than on me. Today I strengthened my case against SinKon and lead the charge against CD. Again, I believe my case against CD is based on far more than his case against me. So please explain to me, how have I been laying low recently?

[CanucksDynasty]

Now that Aquinas has revealed he received an item.
I'm fairly certain that there are no power roles that were given at the start for the town.
Only the chance of picking up items with limited abilities.

I do know that items can be role-blocked (if Narsis is telling the truth) since I privately confirmed it with the mod.
I ask that the townie with a med kit protect Aquinas...since his item seems more cop-like.

[CanucksDynasty]

1. Narsis - claimed to be roleblocked.
3. Electric Mango -
5. Samus -
8. SinKon -
9. Falzis -
11. Aquinas - claimed to found monocle item
12. CanucksDynasty - claimed to found item that would reveal mafia if killed
13. Martino -


Assuming Narsis is telling the truth about roleblock (which I do)...
And I believe Aquinas to be townie (since he has detailed description of an item)
And I believe only items can be picked up by townies (to make up for the fact that there are probably no townie power roles).

To me...the remaining suspects are...

3. Electric Mango -
5. Samus -
8. SinKon -
9. Falzis -
13. Martino -

I believe SinKon is townie since it doesn't make sense to kill off Kaziocore who thought SinKon was townie.
I'm unsure about Samus but that role has been abandoned twice...leading me to believe it is townie role too.

So the remaining are mafia...
3. Electric Mango -
9. Falzis -
13. Martino -

[CanucksDynasty]

Okay, so CD did not do the NK, but I am not convinced that this really clears CD. I think it is safe to assume we have three mafia players. In the beginning of the game, night actions were only allowed in your own room and in adjacent rooms. From there it seems safe to assume that the mafia had to designate someone to do the night kill (since not all mafia players could reach the same room). Therefore, if CD is mafia there is only a 1/3 chance that he would be the one to do the night kill.


I don't quite understand where the believe that I have not been contributing the last few days comes from. I could understand it if you were talking about the beginning of the game. I didn't have any big suspicions back then, so there was no case for me to make. However, the last two days I have been more vocal and have made real cases against two players. Yesterday I made a case against SinKon. A few people seemed to agree and it was looking like he was going to get lynched. The next day I log in to find SJ lynched with 6 votes based on hardly anything. I believe more blame is to be cast on the people who quickly lynched SJ without too much of a case, than on me. Today I strengthened my case against SinKon and lead the charge against CD. Again, I believe my case against CD is based on far more than his case against me. So please explain to me, how have I been laying low recently?

Your case against me is cuz I wanted to know who the cop was.

IF I was mafia...why on earth would I need to know that????
Based on a 3 mafia game ... all I would need to do was lynch any townie and the game would be over!!

[CanucksDynasty]

It's been 6 hours and the game hasn't ended yet even with 2 votes on Martino.
3 possibilities...

1. Martino is mafia...thus in not lynched by his fellow mafia members.
2. Either Narsis and/or me are mafia.
3. Mafia aren't online to cast 3 subsequent votes.

Of course...I think #1 is true.

[Martino]

Your case against me is cuz I wanted to know who the cop was.

Even if that really was my complete case, it would still clearly beat your case that I am scum because I am still alive on D4. But my case is that you tried to get the cop to roleclaim no matter what. Even when I pointed out that there were situations where it would be beneficial for the town if the cop laid low, you still demanded that the cop roleclaimed no matter what. Furthermore, you claimed to have a pro town item, but managed to claim it in such a way that it became completely useless. But conveniently enough it did provide you with a reason why you will not be nightkilled this game. On top of that, you were a very vocal defender of SinKon the last two days. I'm still convinced he is scum as well.

[Martino]

It's been 6 hours and the game hasn't ended yet even with 2 votes on Martino.
3 possibilities...

1. Martino is mafia...thus in not lynched by his fellow mafia members.
2. Either Narsis and/or me are mafia.
3. Mafia aren't online to cast 3 subsequent votes.

Of course...I think #1 is true.

Seriously? You want to draw this conclusion after a mere 6 hours? Though I do agree that the game is pretty much doomed if you are not scum. (Unless Narsis has me completely fooled, but then it'll probably still be doomed as a Narsis lynch seems highly unlikely)

[CanucksDynasty]

Even if that really was my complete case, it would still clearly beat your case that I am scum because I am still alive on D4. But my case is that you tried to get the cop to roleclaim no matter what. Even when I pointed out that there were situations where it would be beneficial for the town if the cop laid low, you still demanded that the cop roleclaimed no matter what. Furthermore, you claimed to have a pro town item, but managed to claim it in such a way that it became completely useless. But conveniently enough it did provide you with a reason why you will not be nightkilled this game. On top of that, you were a very vocal defender of SinKon the last two days. I'm still convinced he is scum as well.

You're convinced SinKon is scum.

Then can you please explain why Kaziocore was nightkilled?
He was a vocal supporter of SinKon.
He did not display any notion that he had a pro-town role.

IF SinKon was mafia...why was Kaziocore nightkilled?

[CanucksDynasty]

Seriously? You want to draw this conclusion after a mere 6 hours? Though I do agree that the game is pretty much doomed if you are not scum. (Unless Narsis has me completely fooled, but then it'll probably still be doomed as a Narsis lynch seems highly unlikely)

Time will tell...

I am not scum...although at this point we are just pointing fingers at each other.
And indeed...if Narsis cleverly lied about the roleblocking and provided a game-breaking strategy to fool the town then kudos for him.

[Narsis]

It's been 6 hours and the game hasn't ended yet even with 2 votes on Martino.
3 possibilities...

1. Martino is mafia...thus in not lynched by his fellow mafia members.
2. Either Narsis and/or me are mafia.
3. Mafia aren't online to cast 3 subsequent votes.

Of course...I think #1 is true.

why do you think i voted for Martino? (rhetoric question btw.)

[Martino]

You're convinced SinKon is scum.

Then can you please explain why Kaziocore was nightkilled?
He was a vocal supporter of SinKon.
He did not display any notion that he had a pro-town role.

IF SinKon was mafia...why was Kaziocore nightkilled?

I don't know why he was NK'ed, but there are several options. Perhaps SinKon thought it would be too obvious if he killed one of the peope attacking him. Perhaps the mafia thought Kazio had a powerrole. Perhaps the mafia wanted you to believe SinKon would not kill one of his supporters.

[Electric Mango]

I'm still lining up against CD. His claiming of the item just does not make sense and his argument about Sinkon is all based off of WIFOM.

If we believe Aquinas, it doesn't absolve CD of being mafia, it only eliminates him as being the hitman, not the other two roles.

I'm going to have another look at everything before placing my vote.

NO RASH LYNCHES!

[Aquinas]

If we believe Aquinas, it doesn't absolve CD of being mafia, it only eliminates him as being the hitman, not the other two roles.

I realized this when I made the post. I'm afraid it does not absolve him of all doubt but, I was hoping it would lift some suspicions. No matter how much information it grants us, I am not suspect of CanucksDynasty. At the same rate I am not going to jump on and lynch Martino. Although, I am suspicious I don't see much more than an intuition argument against him which at this point in the game is not a benefit in my mind. Its interesting that he has not received the third vote from someone else which hints slightly at him being mafia but, we seem to be up against a very smart scum team this time around and would not be surprised they are not just jumping on to kill him to avoid suspicion. In fact, I find that to be just as likely as any of the situations CanucksDynasty pointed out.

I do not think any of the situations involving Kaziocore's death that were pointed out by Martino earlier are nearly as likely however. I'm most eagerly waiting Electric Mango's vote at this point. I think it will reveal quite a bit.

@Martino: What is keeping you from placing an vote on CanucksDynasty? Or did you?

[CanucksDynasty]

Unofficial Vote Count

Martino (2) - CanucksDynasty, Narsis

Not Voting (6) - Martino, EM, Falzis, Aquinas, Samus, SinKon

[CanucksDynasty]

I'm still lining up against CD. His claiming of the item just does not make sense and his argument about Sinkon is all based off of WIFOM.

If we believe Aquinas, it doesn't absolve CD of being mafia, it only eliminates him as being the hitman, not the other two roles.

I'm going to have another look at everything before placing my vote.

NO RASH LYNCHES!

Actually it absolves me of 2 mafia roles (roleblocker and hitman).
Narsis claimed to have been roleblocked and Kaziocore was killed.
With Aquinas eyes focused on me...I didn't move anywhere.

[CanucksDynasty]

@MOD - Can we get a prod on SinKon and Samus?

[Falzis]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Aquinas.
I hope that clears me of further suspicion.

Provided I survive the lynch...I am asking to be paired with you (Aquinas) at night.
I didn't reveal everything about the item I found.


At this point...my direction turns to Martino, EM and Falzis.
All whom placed SFOS on me.
As easy lynch target since I lost my cool.
All of them asking if this is correct...perhaps waiting for 2 townies to place their votes on me before swooping in to place 3 consecutive votes.

SFOS: Martino, EM, and Falzis.

I already voted for Martino.
As did Narsis.

I didn't SFOS you... yet.

How convenient of you to say that "I didn't reveal everything about the item I found".

Everything about Sinkon is WIFOM. I still believe more than the cases made against CD and Martino, Sinkon is our best scum candidate.

Scum lines against Narsis. Hiding after D2 (or was it D3) when he drew so much heat and then appeared sometime later when the heat was off. I don't know why he's inactive now (since I think he's still active in other threads, like Samus but Samus inherited Firkked's role which I believe is townie unlike AoD) but I believe as well that this is a form of hiding from the heat.

Also, was Narsis really the one to give the "game-breaking" strategy on D1? Wasn't it a combination of ideas from EM, Firrkked and Narsis?