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[Kaziocore]

Remnants of a tropical storm made me lose power but it's back now.
That would have been bad if it occurred during the 48-hour move phase and lasted a bit longer.

Maybe some of the roles have actions they perform in rooms. There might be a gathering-type role that can collect the special items. They might want to move to an adjacent empty room to gather things rather than compete with another gatherer in the same room.



Will we see where players finish the night prior to moving back to location 5?

Or a person could move to another location at night if he suspects someone would investigate or kill him.

VOTE COUNT
crazyemolad (6): , FalzisNarsis, Sir Jesus, Kaziocore, KevinH, SinKon
SinKon (4): CanucksDynasty, Electric Mango, Aquinas, Firkked
Falzis (1): Junkahoolik

Not Voting (2): crazyemolad, Martino

Edited by molestargazer, 12 November 2009 - 05:35 PM.

[Electric Mango]

MOD: If someone moves to an adjacent area to carry out a night action, will they be allowed to move back to their original area, or will they have to spend the night in the area their night actions were performed?

They stay there.

that is interesting...although i dont quite see how it would prove useful since no one would be in an adjacent room...

We may want to consider new strategies now that we know that movements will be tracked. If a mafia had to move to another room to kill someone it would be obvious because he didn't start the night in that room, and then he will be there with the victim in the morning.

I'll post more thoughts later and give it more serious thought.

Hold off on voting for crazy.

[Falzis]

Our room placements are actually counterproductive actually. If that was so, then we shouldn't group people in the first place. We'd know anyway if they moved or not (which would suggest they have a night power, pro-town or not). I dunno but the room placements suggestion is now looking fishy and would just benefit the mafia.

[Electric Mango]

MOD: If someone moves to an adjacent area to carry out a night action, will they be allowed to move back to their original area, or will they have to spend the night in the area their night actions were performed?

They stay there.

MOD: Also, just to clarify, will we know who was in what room when the morning comes?

No.
(Deja vu, anyone?)

Edited by molestargazer, 12 November 2009 - 05:36 PM.

[Sir Jesus]

I doubt that's the case EM.

[Narsis]

I doubt that's the case EM.

QFT. would allow for soe interesting strategies though...

such as spreading everyone out in 1/2 person rooms. then we'd know who moved where or didnt and could easily find mafia.

of course we would definitely not want any pro-town power roles to do anything if they would have to move...

[SinKon]

QFT. would allow for soe interesting strategies though...

such as spreading everyone out in 1/2 person rooms. then we'd know who moved where or didnt and could easily find mafia.

of course we would definitely not want any pro-town power roles to do anything if they would have to move...

If we don't know who was in what room when the morning comes, spreading out into 1/2 person room will give us a lot more suspects. Right? I am not too sure about myself anymore. (Please don't hit me )

[Firkked]

The one piece of information that completely changes 15 pages of bickering and FoSing...

/me facepalms

so now what? another 25 pages of room assignment discussion?

Either way I'll be ready to move to my assigned area and brace myself for all that D2 holds

[CanucksDynasty]

If we can track movement's then Mafia would be at a severe disadvantage.
Mafia can never perform a nightkill in a max spread strategy cuz they would be in the room where the nightkill happened.

Something's not right.

[Martino]

If we can track movement's then Mafia would be at a severe disadvantage.
Mafia can never perform a nightkill in a max spread strategy cuz they would be in the room where the nightkill happened.

Something's not right.

Agreed. I don't think we will know in which room everyone ends the night. It just seems to make the game too easy as it completely removes the nightkills. (max 2 players per room, a NK without moving will give a confirmed scum, a NK with moving will also make it clear who the scum was). Still, I will hold off on voting until we know for certain.

[Firkked]

Or is it because we'll crash between N1 and D2? (obscuring night actions with the chaos of the crash, possible random movement during crash, etc)

[SinKon]

I believe the issue here is if the mafias move then do a nightkill...
If we don't know who was in what room during the night, we will be looking at a lot of suspects. Especailly with a max spread strategy because we will have many rooms where the mafia could come from. Now, to cover my behind like somebody...

If we can track movement's then Mafia would be at a severe disadvantage.
Mafia can never perform a nightkill in a max spread strategy cuz they would be in the room where the nightkill happened.

Something's not right.

Of course is not right! The max spread strategy is not right, just like the formula you gave me is not right, and you out of all people jumping on me is not right.

@CanucksDynasty are you going to claim this again?

All I did was lay out possiblities.
It was up to you to decide it's merit and what you want to do with it.

Hey, if I am wrong then I will use the above quote too. Is kinda convenient, you think?

[junkahoolik]

i think the question if we can track movements has been asked before. but, no harm in asking again. mole?

No.

Edited by molestargazer, 12 November 2009 - 05:11 PM.

[junkahoolik]

also, there may be a power role or power roles that can track movements. the title said something about custom roles for this game.

[Firkked]

so when do we get D1 over?

[CanucksDynasty]

I believe the issue here is if the mafias move then do a nightkill...
If we don't know who was in what room during the night, we will be looking at a lot of suspects. Especailly with a max spread strategy because we will have many rooms where the mafia could come from. Now, to cover my behind like somebody...

Of course is not right! The max spread strategy is not right, just like the formula you gave me is not right, and you out of all people jumping on me is not right.

@CanucksDynasty are you going to claim this again?

Hey, if I am wrong then I will use the above quote too. Is kinda convenient, you think?

Dude, I'm having a hell of a hard time understanding your posts.

IF mafia moves to an adjacent area to do a nightkill and they remain in that area...it tells everyone that they are the mafia (provided no pro-town roles moves into the same area as well).

I, along with many others, assumed that mafia could do a nightkill on an adjacent area but would remain in their original area come daybreak. Thus we would have a harder time finding the mafia.

IF movements can be tracked then there's no point in lynching crazyemolad (100% townie).
I'd rather the town lynch you.

You can say I manipulated all you want but the truth is I didn't.
No one else is saying I did either.
The only reason I can think that you keep harping on this is that you are truly mafia.
And this is the only gambit you can play in order to keep yourself from dying.

I'll say this to everyone.
IF SinKon is lynched and is proved to be townie....then by all means lynch me next.
Hell...I'll even vote for myself.

Also...with the new bit of information...I'm almost 100% certain that EM is townie.
There is no reason for mafia to want to share this info with the town.

[Kaziocore]

Remnants of a tropical storm made me lose power but it's back now.
That would have been bad if it occurred during the 48-hour move phase and lasted a bit longer.

Maybe some of the roles have actions they perform in rooms. There might be a gathering-type role that can collect the special items. They might want to move to an adjacent empty room to gather things rather than compete with another gatherer in the same room.



Will we see where players finish the night prior to moving back to location 5?

No. That would make it far too easy.
But nice try.

You guys may have not read this...

[Kaziocore]

I'll say this to everyone.
IF SinKon is lynched and is proved to be townie....then by all means lynch me next.
Hell...I'll even vote for myself.

But if SinKon is really lynched and it turns out that he's townie, please don't lynch yourself if you are really a townie. It's unnecessary.

[CanucksDynasty]

You guys may have not read this...

Great catch Kazio...

So in essence, we do not get to know where everybody moved to during their night action as we all gather in room 5 in the morning. The only info we get is we know where everyone moved to during the 48hr period.

So...it's back to the original plan then. We break into groups of 3 and stay in our assigned rooms.

Does that sound correct to everyone?

[CanucksDynasty]

But if SinKon is really lynched and it turns out that he's townie, please don't lynch yourself if you are really a townie. It's unnecessary.

Meh...I think I know how SJ feels for when SinKon kept harassing him.
Anyways...by my townie list...SinKon has about a 50% chance of being mafia.