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[KZ-04] GOOD END : House of Horrors

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OR, I suppose, Yates actually watched EM not do anything last night and we can't say anything about Daniel.



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OR, I suppose, Yates actually watched EM not do anything last night and we can't say anything about Daniel.

I knew you'd get there...  :lol:



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Well, I trust EM. Mostly because I can vouch he's the lightning rod and used his powers. So I call bluff on Yates successfully watching someone else that night.

 

That's kind of my point. *I* would be lynched instead of you if someone counter claimed me.

 

You're getting lynched tomorrow when I flip townie.


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Well, I trust EM. Mostly because I can vouch he's the lightning rod and used his powers. So I call bluff on Yates successfully watching someone else that night.

1. I didn't "watch," I "tracked"
2. If you think EM is a lightning rod, then he didn't go anywhere. I claimed my target didn't go anywhere. Where's the disconnect?
3. Why do you think he used his powers? Because you claim you targeted me and ended on him? If you were Town, would you not see the obvious possibility of a bus driver?

Meh. I've grown bored with you. You aren't remotely convincing or Town telling in any way shape or form. Hammer at will.

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You're getting lynched tomorrow when I flip townie.

Deal.

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I still want to hear from ABigDeer before anyone hammers.



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I still want to hear from ABigDeer before anyone hammers.

What do you need from him? To know if he neighborized anyone? Pretty sure he would have mentioned it in his first post if he had.

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VOTE: Yates

I initially voted Blascowicz because I was suspicious why there were not two neighbors. His explanation satisfies that. There has to be a doc in this game or I would have been killed last night and no one else has counter claimed.

Yates still is the most scummy person the game. He has lied to the town multiple times and is trying to manipulate the town into lynching our doc.
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I still want to hear from ABigDeer before anyone hammers.

What do you need from him? To know if he neighborized anyone? Pretty sure he would have mentioned it in his first post if he had.

 

 

Well the question is why hasn't he done a second time.  Is his role a one shot neighborizer?  Does he have any other aspects to his role?  We're debating lynching a neighborizer with Blask at L-1.  I think these questions should be answered.  A full role claim might be nice.



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There has to be a doc in this game or I would have been killed last night and no one else has counter claimed.

So a Yates/Daniel scum team since we both claimed BP which would have ALSO protected a Town EM?

Any idea how I knew you visited me N1 and that you went nowhere N2 since I made that claim before you claimed lightning rod?

Any reason you keep "forgetting" those claims?

Any reason you haven't answered any of the questions I posed to you that might indicate even a smidgen of pro Town EM?

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Yeah. EM has won a LOT of mafia games on this site. I refuse to believe he derped his way to those wins. Blascowicz, EM, Lyner scum team. Called it. Book it.

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Yates still is the most scummy person the game. He has lied to the town multiple times and is trying to manipulate the town into lynching our doc.

So you are arguing that our "doc" - who actually has yet to prove a save and may not even be responsible for an alive Town lightning rod - is super valuable but that our investigator role is not? Is that what you are trying to hang your hat on?

Or are you just scared because you couldn't kill Daniel last night and now you realize that you can't kill me tonight AND that you are going to be tracked? Yeah. I see why you are so nervous.

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ABigDeer (0) -
Angel Cruz dela Sant (0) -
Blaskowicz (4) - Yates, Angel Cruz dela Sant, killgor, Lyner
Daniel Vigrid (0) -
Electric Mango (0) -
Imran Ehsan (0) -
Iron Helix (0) -
killgor (0) -
Lyner (0) -
Yates (2) - Blaskowicz, Electric Mango

Not Voting (4) - ABigDeer, Daniel Vigrid, Imran Ehsan, Iron Helix

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Kaz- I voted Yates not Lyner
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Sorry :|

Also Daniel Vagrid is prodded the 2nd time


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Imran and Helix - would you please help us lynch scum and vote Blaskowicz? If you are having ANY doubts that I haven't addressed, would you please let me know what they are? I can't imagine a scum lynch tied up in a prettier/more obvious bow.

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Kaz- I voted Yates not Lyner

You must have "accidentally" missed this:

There has to be a doc in this game or I would have been killed last night and no one else has counter claimed.

So a Yates/Daniel scum team since we both claimed BP which would have ALSO protected a Town EM?

Any idea how I knew you visited me N1 and that you went nowhere N2 since I made that claim before you claimed lightning rod?

Any reason you keep "forgetting" those claims?

Any reason you haven't answered any of the questions I posed to you that might indicate even a smidgen of pro Town EM?



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Imran and Helix - would you please help us lynch scum and vote Blaskowicz? If you are having ANY doubts that I haven't addressed, would you please let me know what they are? I can't imagine a scum lynch tied up in a prettier/more obvious bow.

 

Waiting for ABigDeer.

 

 

 

There has to be a doc in this game or I would have been killed last night and no one else has counter claimed.

So a Yates/Daniel scum team since we both claimed BP which would have ALSO protected a Town EM?

 

 

Am I misreading this or are you saying you being BP would have saved EM?



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Am I misreading this or are you saying you being BP would have saved EM?

I've never played with a lightning rod before so I'm not 100% sure [more like 95%] on how night action resolution would work in this situation but:
"The Lightning Rod passively redirects every Night Action to itself. This includes the Mafia's kill as well as all investigations, protections, and so forth. " [source]
So I *believe* a passive protection - like a BP - would also redirect to the lightning rod.  Not sure why it wouldn't since it isn't a vest or something like that.  In my case, I have the Book of the Dead.  So in the event I was killed, the kill triggers a protection from the book - exactly in the same way, I imagine, as if a doc had protected me.  You'd have to ask Daniel how he claims his works.

In reality, the point is likely moot as EM is almost certainly running a scum gambit.

While I obviously can't prove it? I believe they either targeted me or Daniel last night. When they got a no kill? This was their last ditch effort to get a mislynch on the tracker. The way you will know if they targeted me last night is if I get killed tonight. That means they targeted me last night and it went through. If that happened, EM was obviously NOT a lightning rod. If Daniel is killed tonight then HE was targeted last night and thus EM is obviously not a lightning rod. He will undoubtedly claim "scum blocker!"  But that's silly.  If there was a scum blocker, I would have been blocked last night and I wasn't. Bookmark this post for review tomorrow.






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