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[KH-11] The Force Awakens -- Mafia Win

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why vs Perez & Yehom???

 

Cuz he's not a lurker. He's deviating from his behavior and that's suspicious. That and of course we decided to remove the inactives? 


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@Yehom. Dose odd or even mean anything to you? Yes or no would suffice.

In what context? Define odd and even

 

To be completely fair my activity has been shaky last few days and the transition from 'real life' mafia to 'online' mafia is rather strange to me as I felt I would enjoy 'online' mafia as much as I would mafia that I've played in the past, probably because a wall of text is much harder to interpret than actual talking and the complexity of the games here is a bit higher with a multitude of roles with niche abilities and such. This is the reason why I have been lurking and to be fair it's hard to interpret a wall of text as either an actual thought through argument, or just blatantly trying to disguise oneself as mafia, because text is neutral, everyone can interpret things differently, whereas spoken text is so much easier to interpret. 

 

That being said I feel that TW, in any case would present himself with thought through arguments, so it isn't suspicious that he's backing up his statements with good arguments, where people would perceive that as 'scum behavior'. To me TW doesn't stand out as much. Lyner on the other hand has been pretty inactive for a 'well known' mafia player. It's safe to say that such a player shines in absence under these circumstances. If he doesn't come with a good argument for himself I will vote for him on deadline day.


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Okay guys,
 
I have no idea what i'm doing right now, but i'm going to take a risk and probably going to get myself killed, but i'm going to need cooperation from Town! (Protect me!)
 
So in an effort not to get a wagon going at actual innocent towns and not get Lyner lynched, I will share some information from last night.
 
(role claiming is allowed)
 
But I am the Universal Backup, so gladly when Fox was lynched we did lose our Cop, but I automatically gained that role.
 
With that said in an effort to keep town in the game I will list who is most definitely not scum.
 
As of now, we know that Lyner & Samus is not scum - because I inspected Lyner last night and obviously cause i'm town.
 
Leaving the potential scum to be the following:
 
Finster Baby
Electric Mango
Fox Fire
Imran Ehsan
iSocialism
Kaziocore
Lyner
Mandarijn
Perez
Rafay
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Rusken
Samus
The Warrior
Yehom
 
As of now, I think scum are:
 
The Warrior, R2V & Kaz I suspect there are two more also I haven't been able to put a finger on.
 
The Warrior, still hasn't explained why he suggested he is a town with a power role, and until he does I will assume he was bluffing in an attempt to appear innocent and priority to keep in the game and will keep my lynch vote for him.
 
People we need to vote for who we think is scum, not the inactives! If we keep voting innocent inactives we will continue to lose 2 players a night, scum will win in 2 or 3 days.


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MVP(Mod’s Choice)= Master Samus; I think Master Samus played amazingly for a guy who claims it was his second only mafia game. He never led the town on him and that’s why he deserves this award. He was impressive in manipulating the town that led to the ultimate mafia victory.
 
Player of Mafia; Master Samus/emudevelopment (shared); I think both were instrumental in the town’s defeat. Both were manipulative and deceptive. They clearly came out as pro-town and looked like de-facto town leaders. They led the lynch wagon w/o anyone uncovering their true motives.

Samus, you should be proud that you've helped make an environment where people feel safe enough to share their experiences.


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Boom! Bomb dropped by Sinus. Almost 100% a proven townie as no scum would ever take role claim this early into the game. While it's true that Shame-on-us is not your typical player, I doubt even he would have the cajones to pull of a stunt like this.

Pretty risky move though as he just put a HUGE target on himself. If the doc is killed or the Mafia have strongman ability it's curtains for Sammy and the town is out another important power role.
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/me strikes Samus off his list.

My short list of suspects mirrors Samus' right now, so I'm gonna stick with my vote till otherwise convinced.
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Wow, I don't know what to say right now. I'm tempted to believe him though, but then again it's Samus. :P

 

I will stand by my vote for TW for now. I think we should take the risk. Unless someone has a better idea that doesn't involve lynching inactive town people...


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Okay guys,
 
I have no idea what i'm doing right now, but i'm going to take a risk and probably going to get myself killed, but i'm going to need cooperation from Town! (Protect me!)
 
So in an effort not to get a wagon going at actual innocent towns and not get Lyner lynched, I will share some information from last night.
 
(role claiming is allowed)
 
But I am the Universal Backup, so gladly when Fox was lynched we did lose our Cop, but I automatically gained that role.
 
With that said in an effort to keep town in the game I will list who is most definitely not scum.
 
As of now, we know that Lyner & Samus is not scum - because I inspected Lyner last night and obviously cause i'm town.
 
Leaving the potential scum to be the following:
 
Finster Baby
Electric Mango
Fox Fire
Imran Ehsan
iSocialism
Kaziocore
Lyner
Mandarijn
Perez
Rafay
Road2Victory
Robert2424
Rusken
Samus
The Warrior
Yehom
 
As of now, I think scum are:
 
The Warrior, R2V & Kaz I suspect there are two more also I haven't been able to put a finger on.
 
The Warrior, still hasn't explained why he suggested he is a town with a power role, and until he does I will assume he was bluffing in an attempt to appear innocent and priority to keep in the game and will keep my lynch vote for him.
 
People we need to vote for who we think is scum, not the inactives! If we keep voting innocent inactives we will continue to lose 2 players a night, scum will win in 2 or 3 days.

 

What was your character name, as the universal backup?


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I believe Samus is telling the truth, I just want two things. Samus' character before becoming the cop, and lyner to post something/anything.


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Agreed with EM. Highly doubtful scum would make that role claim. So I am gonna believe his claim. However, risky move Sumas. Probably would have been better to reveal your role after you had confirmed at least one scum, but lets keep fingers crossed.


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Vote Count

The Warrior (3): Samus, Mandarijn, Finster Baby,
Lyner (3): Robert2424, iSocialism, Rafay,
Electric Mango (2): Kaziocore, Perez,
Kaziocore (2): Road2Victory, Rusken,
Perez (1): Electric Mango,
Rafay (0):
iSocialism (0):
Rusken (0): 
Mandarijn (0):
Finster Baby (0):
Imran Ehsan (0):
Yehom (0):
Robert2424 (0):
Samus (0):
Road2Victory (0):

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Not voting: Imran Ehsan, The Warrior, Yehom, Lyner,

 
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Agreed with EM. Highly doubtful scum would make that role claim. So I am gonna believe his claim. However, risky move Sumas. Probably would have been better to reveal your role after you had confirmed at least one scum, but lets keep fingers crossed.


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You never what samus May up to be.

A risky scum move?

If he was town he would've revealed information that we wouldn't know and help town and instead I feel like he's backtracking it for us.
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That's a risky ass move there Samuus. It's still hard to believe you though, but that was quite a bit of information, so I'll take it as a good sign for now. Hopefully someone can protect you.


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Agreed with EM. Highly doubtful scum would make that role claim. So I am gonna believe his claim. However, risky move Sumas. Probably would have been better to reveal your role after you had confirmed at least one scum, but lets keep fingers crossed.


Have to agree with this^

You never what samus May up to be.

A risky scum move?

If he was town he would've revealed information that we wouldn't know and help town and instead I feel like he's backtracking it for us.

 

I find it to hard to call this a scum move. It benefits the town too much, besides the point of him outing himself, if he is the cop.

 

There's too much going on in my head trying to explain what I think of this move. So

If samus is scum he could be protecting lyner scum partner. However if he is scum he could be hoping that no one else is the universal backup, and knowing that lyner is not scum, via being scum and knowing who he is working with. Could be trying to gain town creed. Also gaining the doc's NA ensuring a mafia kill. Though if samus is scum they might lynched lyner if he is town, to try to further samus town creed.

Another thing is, if samus is town/cop, protecting him might now be wasteful, because the scum will think he is protected and would go for someone else.

 

Here's is how I think we might need to play it out. As me believing Samus is telling the truth. Samus tells us his character name. we leave both samus and lyner alive for the day. The doc will choose the chance of protecting samus, or protecting someone else. We vote for someone against samus, that also fits or list of scummy behavior.


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Risky move, but what the hell? The night is upon us, nobody was gonna reveal what happened last night, everyone was playing a guessing game and y'all were planning on lynching an innocent Lyner!

 

Good analysis there iSocialism btw. I am Chewbacca.

 

R2V is rising on my suspect list.



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00:48 Fernando[IRON] � I will refer to you as Supreme Overlord Guru Samus

Only I have the baptismal power.

Samus because of your dedicated service to IRON; your high casualty count and aid given your fellow IRONers. I hear by baptize ye in Fire and blood. You rise as IRON!

You may now wear proudly in your Sig "I have been Baptized in Fire and Blood and emerged as IRON."

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MVP(Mod’s Choice)= Master Samus; I think Master Samus played amazingly for a guy who claims it was his second only mafia game. He never led the town on him and that’s why he deserves this award. He was impressive in manipulating the town that led to the ultimate mafia victory.
 
Player of Mafia; Master Samus/emudevelopment (shared); I think both were instrumental in the town’s defeat. Both were manipulative and deceptive. They clearly came out as pro-town and looked like de-facto town leaders. They led the lynch wagon w/o anyone uncovering their true motives.

Samus, you should be proud that you've helped make an environment where people feel safe enough to share their experiences.


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Unvote

 

That is a common star wars name, if he is bluffing then someone WILL come forward.

 

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and of course iSocialism

 

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After reading like 3-5 pages... this are my thoughts.

 

The heated battle between Isoc and Rusken, makes me beleave Rusken is townie. Meanwhile, Isoc responses were "fishy" sometimes.

 

I see TW long responses as a way to either prove he is townie, or just use it to disguise himself. So far, I see him more as townie than scum but still am keeping an eye on him just to be safe.

 

Samus in my eyes is definitely a townie. I trust him. 

 

Imram, I dont remember visiting the forums yesterday... if I did, I forgot to check Mafia. 

 

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Well either way, I'm still voting for inactives unless someone votes me for no reason other than 'Top of their list', because that makes my scum senses tingle.


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you people who are so bent on voting for inactives are messing up the town's chances!!

 

We need to focus on voting for who we think is scum!!!! Inactives have never been the priority



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00:48 Fernando[IRON] � I will refer to you as Supreme Overlord Guru Samus

Only I have the baptismal power.

Samus because of your dedicated service to IRON; your high casualty count and aid given your fellow IRONers. I hear by baptize ye in Fire and blood. You rise as IRON!

You may now wear proudly in your Sig "I have been Baptized in Fire and Blood and emerged as IRON."

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MVP(Mod’s Choice)= Master Samus; I think Master Samus played amazingly for a guy who claims it was his second only mafia game. He never led the town on him and that’s why he deserves this award. He was impressive in manipulating the town that led to the ultimate mafia victory.
 
Player of Mafia; Master Samus/emudevelopment (shared); I think both were instrumental in the town’s defeat. Both were manipulative and deceptive. They clearly came out as pro-town and looked like de-facto town leaders. They led the lynch wagon w/o anyone uncovering their true motives.

Samus, you should be proud that you've helped make an environment where people feel safe enough to share their experiences.


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A risky scum move? If he was town he would've revealed information that we wouldn't know and help town and instead I feel like he's backtracking it for us.

 

I didnt say it was a scum move. I think he is the cop and it was a risky move because you can be sure the scum will be gunning for him now. Though I think the reveal should have been help back until he had confirmed at least one scum.

 

As for who to lynch today, I still havent made up my mind. I am not exactly sold on TWs explanations but at least he is making an effort and I would like to see him for a day or more or so instead of lynching him off right now. 

 

I have found R2Vs posts a bit scummy. Also Yehom and Perez are lurking, only to appear and post once it was publicly revealed how they have been on the forums and not posted in this game for days. Robert has also been suspiciously quite compared to him activity on D1. EM has also been quite but not as quite as Robert.

 

I am also a bit suspicious of Mandarijn. He seems to be jumping on wagons based off others accusations without presenting any details on why he thinks his target may be scum (example: jumped on TW wagon right after Samus accused him and his explanation was "what Samus said!" Kaz has been too inactive so no read there.

 

So thats the summary of the people I am looking at and why. I will decide in a day or so where to put my vote on based on above analysis,

 


ps I forgot to add Rusken and Isoc. I think Rusken is town, but iSoc I am not entirely sure yet.

 

pss: Rafay is also very quite. and FB i am not exactly clear yet but I am leaning towards him being town.


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Ok  just because I post a lot doesn't mean I am scum if I were scum my actions would most likely never to be here and i would just lurk all the time mostly and not say anything. 

 

" Luke, you're going to find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view." -Obi Wan Kenobi. 

 

The way Samus put his post was desperate and out of nowhere, so to I think its a risky move up that he called up to doc to save him. I am confused that this will benefit town or not, but I hope it will benefit town. 

 

Btw the link for universal backup seems to be an error and i keep getting it? Its not an internet problem. 


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