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This no-lynch thing be true. I don't think that every scum would flock onto Rafay's wagon. Probably they didn't care that much about it, since they expected town would handle the wagon on their own. But on the other hand "no lynch" option in this game is not the safest option to go too. In summary we have 6 people alive that were on the Rafay's wagon, 3 that were on other wagons and 2 that were no lynchers, with 3 bad guys hiding somewhere in those groups. If we assume scum would like to blend (so not go no-lynch route) and they wouldn't all jump on the Rafay's wagon, then there must be at least one among (Tony, KevinH, Robert) Edit: Cut off the first, reworked version of my post, that for some reason has appeared too.

I'd say YES and NO. EC choses 2 people main + backup in case main get's killed at night. As long as EC chooses reasonable people (so for instance not Tony, also not someone who's probably going to get lynched) then it's fine whatever his choice is. That being said it would be healthy for all if Elector changes (to avoid psychological tricks our minds could play on us - meaning if someone's constantly an E he start's to look like a moderator and not like one of the players, which could be fatal, if he turns out to be scum). However we don't need to be overly strict, with "only once" rule. Especially if we start running out of people we can somewhat trust in. Let us see what will be the result of that FBI investigation . If nothing happens that would heavily indicate Velocity is a part of Deep State

Welcome back CoD Why care about self proclaimed title? Just have a laugh at it, as it's for entertainment purpose only

Both mafia and SK can manipulate switches. That makes all the fun ( they can theoreticaly undo their switching). Though when only one side's left, we cant expect anything else than switch being turned off.

So WP has been a mafia switch. Good for the Town, a bit worse for our Doc ( since nothing stops SK from switching him out every night). Looking at last days votes I wonder why Ferastical didnt vote? Also, MK is Torres replaced for real? Hes still on the vote count list for today.

I thought you'll vote me into presidency, not the other way Even in Russia they pretend peoples votes do count

We need to vote and Brewers needs to stop being lazy and start posting votes count.

@Torres, thats a nice summary. Your plan however is too idealistic on the part where you say: "we don't lynch anybody unless we're 100% certain that" Youll never have such certainty, escpecially if you dont plan to vote and pressure anyone. And we need votes and wagons to find behavior patterns that may lead us to scum. Thats only tool we have That being said: Vote KevinH He has a bad habit of not explaining his motives and actions ( outside of not very useful one-liners). I dont remember him helping a town.

We play the game as if it was a plain vanila town vs mafia goons game. There are no investigations so we lynch people everyday and analyze wagons

@Brewers can we replace Robert if needed? Other than that, let me quote my previous post. Town, this is important. If we go without any rules then we'll surely lose. We need to make sure, that we all universally accept those rules (or others if someone come up with a better ones). We need to voice it before the end of the day, so that there will be no excuses from scum that might happen to become Electors.

Yes he can ( at least untill other Elector tries to lynch him). And this way there are no safe targets for mafia. Whomever they target theres always risk of hitting PC and dying. Thats why, even though EC is a confirmed town ( and in case od death EC will go to other townie, unless brewers decide he's giving autowin to mafia) he should not RC ( bar the event when he's about to be lynched). Otherwise he'll set himself up for a safe mafia kill (as hes the only person that cannot be PC)

Most probably he's wondering who has chosen LWW for to be Elector today. First Elector could as well have been chosen by Brewers random roll (since there was no N0 phase). And if it was chosen by EC it was a good choice, since LWW is a rational player (assuming he's town ... but that's the unavoidable risk and also something that we can alleviate if we follow the rules). We need our Electors to be people that are at least somewhat active and predictable (so for example giving Elector powers to Tony or Torres gambling with towns fate ).

Alright, so there are no roles that can investigate. Therefore only way for us to win is to lynch and analyze the wagons. In this case I think the best play would be to for Elector to always lynch players with the most votes. Disregarding town votes will lead to situations where: a) We'll have no wagons to analyze (if Elector kills someone with small or no wagon). Wagons will be less important - if Electors will disregard people votes and decide who to kill by themselves, then nothing stops mafia from voting on themselves. c) False alarms will be created - for example, if Elector disregards player A with 6-man wagon and kills player B with 4-man wagon, then was it because Elector didn't believe that A was a scum, or maybe both Elector and A were scum? If we all agree to always vote on the top wagon then we'll protect ourselves in the event of scum becoming Elector (this way if Elector is not lynching the biggest wagon owner, we'll know that this specific Elector is a scum). d) We will avoid situation where Elector decides to lynch Popular Candidate and dies instead. When it happens that Popular Candidate gets the most votes, he can RC to protect himself / Elector (and if mafia fakes RC, they're as good as dead anyway).

I'll let Brewers confirm, but logically it must be among town only. If it were among all players and it rolled mafia, then it's auto lose for the town. That's because Electoral College (EC) decides who's Elector (E) and only E can lynch. In case mafia guy is nominated EC, then he would only chose his buddies to be E. Therefore mafia would decide who to lynch during the day and who to kill during the night. At that point they could as well all RC, laughing evily, since we'd had no way stopping them.

Players votes do not count, but they may "vote" to let their voices be heard Love that part of the rules. We may vote, but it's irrelevant. That's America, our shining example of democracy @Brewers, on a serious note, I'd like to make sure I got the rules right. So: - At the very bottom are us, dirty peasants (meaning voters), that will express their opinions vote as usually. However our votes have no power and are just an idication of what is the will of the people. - Above us is the Elector, who's making the shot (it's basically the day-Vig role). This is just a temporary role and it's decided by Electorial College who's the Elector for the day. - Then there's Electorial College, who's deciding who'll be the Elector for the next day. My question is what happens if Electorial College role is eliminated?

uh...please shed a tear for your brave vigilante who was brutally slaughtered this night : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x8C84-sheg&ab_channel=Shareworthy&t=10

I wouldnt really mind getting Rafay hammered. Nothing else's happening and its just a day left. Gogogo Torres, be the savior we need.

It was nice to see Rafay posting more, though since deadline is tomorrow I won't change my vote. That being said I'm willing to put trust in that he'll be more active and won't vote him in the next game we play together.

To make sure no funny things happen. Vote Robert If I were you Id took a look at brewers

Wow, Rafay got active ( for a moment at least). Thats really great, keep it up.

If Robert turns SK I'll shoot KevinH If town then I'll shoot TW. If scum then Ill choose randomly ( except for torres)...but it doesnt matter since game will be decided by a coin toss from torres

Who cares about Rafays win counts? There's no external mafia organization that could come here, take look at the stats and say "oh that Rafay guy seems to be a mafia pro, here's $100.000 price for him" Honestly if I was to mod a game, Id rather make it a bit smaller and not allow players that are known for their non-participation.

If lynching Robert wont end the game I think I'll take a shoot. For me - torres does not fit mafia ( by votes) nor SK ( to reckless) - KevinH does not fit SK due to WPs finding ( correct me if Im wrong) - TW can be either mafia or even night SK ( that could be explanation for N2 block by LWW, N3 no kill and N4 kill) - Brewers can be a SK ( and I dont like, that hes hiding details about his role). In case SK exists and is bulletproof it'll be better if I make it known who I'll shot beforehand Any suggestions?

You tell'em Kev!!! Oh btw how's the strategy of getting me lynched D1 working out for you losers? You tell us. Are you more inclined to adopt your playstyle to be more pro-town?

And also TW can be mafias motion detector.