ccabal86

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It's up to you guys, I'm happy either way.

The Phantom of the Opera

Yay! We won! Congrats guys, very well played. I really enjoyed the game, I'll be sure to play again. Good experience was gained here.

I definately agree that Nerau is the more suspicious one. I however, would still advise our Vigilante not to target anyone during the night. If we happen to miss today, we still have 1 more day to get the mafia. Vote: Nerau

Unvote for the time being

That puts things in a new perspective. I belive the mafia is either Nerau or Kaziocore.

Then go ahead with my plan and vote me out, it will clear the picture quite a bit. The town wins as a collective and if my death helps achieve that victory, it's worth it.

So, if you're willing to go through with my plan: Vote:ccabal86

EBWOP: I counted the claims, not what the players actually are.

One is the real one and the other is the mafia player counterclaiming

Nobody commented on my strategy...I would like some feedback.

I think the cop is a myth.

Also, at this point I don't think there are people who we can trust to be 100% townie. That includes CD. I would like to hear everyone's opinion on my proposal.

Allright guys, tactics time. Since it's obvious I can't shake your suspicion I suggest we go along with the folloving plan: At the end of this day you hang me. If this happens, the Vigilante MUST NOT KILL ANYBODY, or else we may easily lose. A nightkill happens. That should put us at 3 remaining players 2 town, 1 mafia. The battlefield updates should be quite informative at this point. Then, everybody should roleclaim, the townies should do it TRUTHFULLY. Here are the possible outcomes for that: If the Vigilante was not killed during the night: - 1 Vigilante, 2 Vanilla townies: You should vote for one of the Vanilla townies, whoever the battlefield % indicates. - 2 Vigilantes, 1 vanilla townie: The mafia player claimed to be a vigilante you should vote for one of the Vigilantes with the battlefield % in mind. If the Vigilante was killed during the night: - 3 Vanilla townies: use the battlefield % to determine who to vote for. What we absolutely SHOULDN'T do, is mark 2 players for death today (e.g: molestargazer and me). Because if you happen to miss the scum and lynch 2 townies...the mafia will win with the nightkill.

In these posts Chaoshawk is focusing on molestargazer quite a lot, usually saying we should lynch him. He says the same even AFTER he has been uncovered. Why does he do this? It's like he's deliberately wanting to draw away attention from someone, and raise our suspicions against molesatrgazer. I'm beginning to think lynching molestargazer would be a mistake. He also suggested lynching Kaziocore instead of Alasdair, so he's probably a townie too. However, he doesn't say a peep about Nerau...

Ok, here are some suspicios posts from Chaoshawk, from after Day 1: He used this to explain why he unvoted on Alasdair, otherwise this was fairly early in the game. In response to me proposing to lynch molestargazer as a possible mafia candidate. Looking back on these, it may actually be that molestargazer is NOT mafia. But it's getting late, going to explain it tomorrow

Unfortunately, we don't know much about Kazio and Nerau either, there is of course a possibility that the remining scum is not molestargazer. I would take KevinH's math with a grain of salt. Don't get me wrong, he did a great job and it served it's purpouse earlier as a general indicator/something to go off of. But there is a problem: Mod only counts "content posts", while we counted every post. The problem is we don't know what qualifies as a "content post", so our numbers may easily be off by 5-6 posts, making it risky to think our calculations are punctual.

First off: I too believe we have a vigilante and not a serial killer, otherwise we'd probably had 2 nightkills this time as well. @ CD: I've been suspicious of molestargazer ever since the first battlefield update yielded only moderate town advancement. Just think about it: At that time the top 3 posters (you, KevinH, molestargazer) had significantly more posts than the rest. If all 3 of you were townies, I'm sure the town would have gained more land. My suspicion is only reinforced by the fact that scum #1: Alasdair was basically inactive and scum #2: Chaoshawk only had a moderate postcount at the end of Day 1. This means that scum #3 had to be a very active person. Since I sincerely believe you're a townie and KevinH was poven to be one, this only really leaves molesatrgazer as our last suspect. It's also ineresting that he went rather quiet lately, especially since a few of us started pressuring for his lynch. It's like he's trying to get out of focus.

And in light of that, consider this: The suspicion is currently on me. If I were scum, would my teammate be in such a hurry to end the day, ending the discussion and preventing me from defending myself?

This is going off the fact that Alasdair and Chaoshawk are scum: The first battlefield update only showed moderate town advancement. At that time, the top 3 posters had significantly more posts than the rest of us. Alasdair barely had a few posts and Chaoshawk was in the mid-tiers. Now, if all 3 of the top 3 posters were townies, I'd have expected the town to gain more ground. I highly suspect the day 1 top 3 had a scum in their ranks. Since KevinH turned out to be townie, and I sincerely believe CD is too, that leaves molestargazer as the mafia suspect. For me there are IRL reasons for that. There were a few days when I had more time to post. These days I don't.

Edit: sorry, "by doing a post count" I mean run an analysis on the possible mafia combinations. I'll add my take when I get home.

I agree with Kaziocore, we should definately focus on mafia first, and we'll see what happens when we deal with them. So assuming there are 3 mafia, one being Alasdair and the other being Chaoshawk, who is likely to be the 3rd member? I still think it's molestargazer, but we should do a post count to see if it adds up.

If you remember, my very first vote in this game (also very early on) was for Alasdair, who turned out to be mafia. If I were mafia too, I would have voted on a townie.

Well, all righty then, today's vote should be pretty straightforward. I don't believe we have 2 doctors, and since the doc turned out to be Kasabian.... Vote: Chaoshawk