d3mon

AXW

we will overcome.

VI

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35

Or maybe now.

AXU

4405

IV

AXM

AXG

IX

CD.. what happens if I am townie?

EM.. let me try that... everyone have a gr8 weekend... :drinks:

No.. u loose all the time

4407

32

Nope. I did.

VII

AXE

k.. Let me see if I can answer the questions that preston raised in his very long post I never said that I was a "survivor" from the last round. I just said that I am a character from last round and mentioned that there is atleast one mafia character back from the dead(indicated in mole's game description). I wonder where you got the survivor bit. It fits into my role claim now but I never claimed that because it would indicate that I had one of the three survivor roles from the last round. I felt it was pretty awkward to demand a role claim on day 1 and was sure that someone would challenge the need for it. Showing apprehension for a lynch would have indicated that I had a power role and would have provided a target to Mafia for night kill. Well.. all this is pretty moot right now. I didn't paraphrase because I felt that if someone didn't trust me now... IMHO once I paraphrased... he would just say that this is only copied from the last round. Still, I have nothing to loose and here it goes "After my really bad experience at the swimming pool, I decided to take a job at the irontown supermarket. Unfortunately, since I have a limited skill set.. I got the same job i.e. Security Guard. Once during the game.. I can PM mole and find out the players that moved at night" Now, I wonder if preston can answer one of my questions... Why did you think that I was a survivor from last round? I find that suspicious but again... who cares about my suspicions

@Preston... I love the stats you presented. The funny thing about stats is that it takes very little to make them support your assumptions. Let me see, if I can make some stats for the scenarios you mentioned 1) I am mafia - i.e. I cant be Security Guard. The town cop would role claim on day 2 and I would be lynched. The probability of this scenario is 27.3 %. 2) Assuming I am town and the security guard who forces a town lynch Chances of this happening are 8/11 * 1/8 * 2/3 = 6.06% 3) Assuming I am town and the security guard who gets lucky 8/11 * 1/8 * 1/3 = 3.03% 4) Assuming that I am town and that mafia kills me at night 8/11 * 1/8 = 9.1 % Well.. I dont see things going horribly wrong for town under any scenario. I really like how you managed to manipulate the numbers to show that if I am left alive, town looses the game. A very interesting part of your analysis is that while you have tried to take apart every post that I made, you dont suspect CD at all. Let me remind you about a list of scummy actions on his part (perhaps your too) 1) I dropped a hint about my role and he immediately jumped on it and asked for a full role claim. You supported his actions. Sounds scummy to me. 2) He role claims under circumstances that dont require a role claim. Moreover, his role claim proves nothing but you still dont suspect him. Again, I find this very suspicious. 3) There are tons of inconsistencies in his posting. At one time he claims that all the townie roles in last round were very powerful.. later he states that there were enough roles to balance the security guard role. Sounds scummy to me but you ignore it as if it was just another comment. 4) Both you and CD initially pressed for a role claim. I did and you said paraphrase or lynch. Again, I did... your reaction.. too late...we will lynch you anyway. I also find it very disheartining to see so many inactives. Assuming that all scum members are active, this is seriously tipping the balance in the favour of mafia. A hammer vote on me could come pretty soon. Assuming that town would be looking at my posts to decide who is scum, I would say that CD and Preston sound really scummy to me.

Let me see if I got this right. You role claimed because You suspect there are 3 vanilla townies... which you suspect because you are a vanilla townie... and since 3 vanilla townies + a security guard will decisively shift the balance towards the town.... it proves that I cannot be a security guard. Conclusively proving that I am scum. <Sarcasm>I agree with you... this is indeed a very strong line of reasoning and warranted a role claim</sarcasm>

CaoCao, there is no need to divulge any details regarding your roles. It only helps the scum. I did so because it was forced but CD's claim was unnecessary and yours was definitely not needed. I am not saying that you or CD is scum but role claiming on day 1 never helps the town.

Hm.. why do you expect that there are two other vanilla townies? I would love to hear your line of reasoning behind this. If, my accusation of there being a Janitor was suspicious.. this should sound really scummy to everyone.