Imran Ehsan

This is true. But I dont think he was blocked using his action. Strongman ability from mafiawiki: Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks. I dont believe you managed to role block Preston. He probably has a strongman ability that allowed him to bypass your block and kill Lyner. I am very suspicious of his claim on why he would use a doc ability on Lyner. It seems this is a easy coverup for any watcher or tracker that may remain and see/tracked him to Lyner. I am tending to agree with you he is our 2nd scum. This is great info. I think we found our 3rd scum. mario is the scum rolblocker. So last night, Preston stongman killed Lyner mario roleblocked ABD N1 (possible): Preston investigated me d3mon shot an arrow at EM mario shot an arrow at TBR (i think mario is a scum JOAT as well) Does that explain everything or did I miss any unexplained actions?

@EM - What were your re3asons for jail keeping me on N1? Why did you chose Preston in the 2 nd night?

Heh..I just explained why while you were writing your post.

I investigated you to make sure you were not fake claiming.You using your role cop ability on me and finding me as a role cop and getting caught at it by Rafay are too many coincidences to overlook. I wanted to make sure you were not a scum Role Cop. You would know it will be very unlikely that there will be 2 townie role cops so you claimed a JOAT to explain your role cop ability. In any case your claim turned out to correct. However, your action last night is very very suspicious. Why did you not use your sane cop ability? Why would you use the doc role when you know there is a very strong possibility that scum will use the strong man ability? There positively is a Vig in this game. Otherwise there will be no need for scum to have arrow-proof abilities as well.

I already confirmed. Rafay claimed I visited Preston, which I did. Does this clear Rafay as town? No. Reasons below: 1. He refused to vote for scum d3mon even after Lyner identified d3mon as scum. 2. So far we have seen 1 townie tracker, 1 townie JOAT and 1 scum JOAT. I investigated Preston and he is a JOAT. I dont know his alignment. As we already know there was a town JOAT and a scum JOAT, it seems like there can be multiple JOATs for either town or scum. We dont know yet if there are multiple townie trackers, Rafays refusal to clarify his role is not helping town, he is just telling his actions but not his role. This is very scummy imo.

Rafay successfully tracked me last night if I am not mistaken. I want to know Prestond actions though.

We already killed a JOAT scum. Will there be 2 JOAT scums? Also I am not sure if JOATs have the role block ability or not. But if not, that will mean we have a role blocker scum and a killer scum. We killed 1 scum last night. So unless the scum JOAT also has the ability to kill, it is unlikely Preston is scum.

I got that the 1st night as well. Yeah its the role blocker.

I investigated preston last night. I can confirm he is a JOAT. So we have multiple JOATs and probably multiple trackers as well.

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wow....this is role-madness. And along with 1-shot arrow-proof ability as well. lot of claims and such from a lot of players. However, I dont see scum being bold enough to claim to be a sane cop to lynch a townie. So I will go along with the follow the cop strategy. Unvote Vote: d3mon If d3mon turns up townie, we know lyner is scum. If d3mon is scum, well we kill a scum I still think Rafay is scum, but this is a better lynch option for this day due to the cop claim.

He tracked Preston using his action on me. Which means he probably is a tracker or a JOAT. Since he wont be role-claiming I can assume he is a tracker. Goblin trackers dont need to have any arrows as well. And I cant see why there will be three roles in the townies with tracking ability.

Why do you think he doesn't need to claim? We already know what he did last night. Don't you think he needs to explain his reasons and actions?

You dont need to claim if you are scum.

What role do you have?

Maybe it's just too late at night (CN war attacks at update!), but I'm not fully following this; could you elaborate please? If you're referring to the end of Day 1, the wagons were on ABD and Lyner, not d3mon and Lyner. If Rafay is scum and EM is also scum, there was no reason for EM to put a vote on Rafay seeing as there are 2 other possible lynch wagons currently. However, if EM is scum and he knows Rafay is not scum it would actually make sense for him to jump on the Rafay wagon (instead of the oone of the other 2) as getting a Rafay lynch will be easier.

^correction - 3rd vote.

Scum had better wagons to jump onto (d3mon or Lyner) instead of buddy scum Rafay wagon with 2nd vote.

Its pretty unlikely that both arrows shot on Night 1 were scum arrows. That would mean there are 4 scum (if Rafay turns out scum and the one who roleblocked me was also scum) or that they have ability to shoot multiple arrows -> again very unlikely. Pretty sure one of the arrows was from a Vig and it was directed at EM. If Rafay turns up scum in todays lynch, it will clear EM. In terms of balance, I am sure one of the scum has the Strongman ability, otherwise it will be almost impossible for them to win. But since it was not used on N1, there probably is a restriction on its use, maybe even/odd nights only.

Anyway, I dont buy that there will be potentially the 3 same roles for townies - Montosh was a Tracker, Preston has 1-shot tracker ability with JOAT and Rafay has tracker ability as well. Ra fay is a scum tracker imo and we should lynch him today. Vote:Rafay

Its kinda annoying when your complete role is being revealed to all to see when revealing it was not needed.. @preston

Why dont you think he cant be a JOAT?

Well I didnt want to get outed but oh well. I will confirm Preston's assertion. I would have been more happy though if he had used a watcher ability on me, because I was roleblocked last night. I am pretty sure it was scum who role-blocked me as I doubt I looked scummy enough in Day 1 for a townie role-blocker to use his action on me. Thats why I was more interested in hearing if Preston had some info of some other player using his action on me, because that would have definitely identified a scum. With his JoAT claim though, it means Rafay is a second tracker. I find that highly unlikely. He is a scum Tracker in my opinion. That would means there is at least 3 scum, 1 with Tracker ability, 1 with rolebock ability and the 3rd who performed the actual kill, probably a Godfather type or a strong man type.

These 3 have been lurking/inactive: - Nick the Great - Electric Mango - Kaziocre If you are around post your thoughts on the current situations and who in your view are suspicious and who are probably townie.