Imran Ehsan

I am a bit disappointed. I havent seen much logic and deductions from you in why you think EM and Kazio are scum apart from just claiming KevinH is scum. And of course it is clear Mango and Kazio are working together (as scum partners or as town masons) so it is expected they will vote together. You also dont seem to address the accusations thrown at you...by EMs detailed post earlier.

KevinH's posts from Day 2: KevinH's post yesterday: Why the change in your position. I also find it interesting that both of you and d3mon were gearing to lynch SirCroc on Day 2 before people KF2001's short posts threw the lynching in his favor. The above posts is making me think KevinH and d3mon are working together, and SirCroc is a townie. I havent yet found any suspicious posts from EM and Kaziocre which would make me think they are scum posing as masons.

He quit IRON the last time I checked. In any case I would be very interested in hearing d3mon and KevinH's take on the current happenings.

To MOD: Can Sir Crocodile be MOD killed if there are no replacements for him.

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ABigDeer - 179 reign of terror - 92 Fernando - 92 Theophilos - 66 d3mon - 52 Hertt - 48 MatsuSoul - 21 Chong a Bong - 8 Doctore - 8 Imran - 8 cristoir - 7 Psycogenius - 6 KF2001 - 4 kazecap0ne - 3 Chico - 2 Kaziocore - 2 Commander Shepard - 2 Blaskowicz - 2 eoc90 - 1 Caenwulf - 1 Endirrrr - 1 AngelCruzdelaSant-1

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Theophilos 54 Matt Miller 20 Bay102174 42 Crusty Juggler 107

Not much choice really since no one has counter claimed to be the real cop. And no one has yet given any reason as to why the real cop may be staying silent now too. So at this point if RoT is fake only SirCroc could be the real cop, who is inactive. From his previous posts I doubt very much that SirCroc was a cop.

OK lets explore this scenario. Suppose we vote No Lynch. Suppose RoT is the real cop Scum nightkills RoT -> He turns out to be the real Cop -> means Beebs is scum -> we still have no idea who the other 2 scum are Scum does not night kill RoT (but kills either me or SirCroc) -> We think RoT is scum since he survived and we do not believe his night investigation (same reason as todays) but scum intentionally did not kill RoT to throw suspicion on him and EM and Kazio. Now theres 3 scum voting for RoT/EM/Kazio to be lynched and the remaining townie believing RoT is scum since he survived. 4-3 scum wins. Scum will not nightkill EM and Kazio because that would confirm that the other is a Mason and a confirmed townie. Scum will not hit d3mon and KevinH because one of them is Mafia and killing one exposes the other. Now, Suppose RoT is a fake cop, hence scum Scum does not nightkill EM and Kazio (they are in this case either scum or under heavy suspicion) Scum does not kill RoT -> he is scum Scum kills either me, d3mon, KevinH or SirCroc. Suppose nightkilled guy is real cop. RoT is exposed -> EM and Kazio under heavy suspicion, but not conformed. Real cop is not killed. RoT is under suspicion as scum but we do not know for sure because scum may have intentionally left him alive for reasons as explained above. So, any holes in my analysis?

Don't you have to bold it to count? At this point, apart from Kaziocre everybody else alive has posted and not claimed to be a cop. I don't see what the real Cop has to gain by staying silent at this point and not challenging RoT. So if RoT is the real cop, Beebs is scum no matter if EM is lying about his role or not. Vote: Beebs

I am leaning towards believing that RoT is the cop. Does anyone apart from Beebs think that he is Mafia in disguise? I am also leaning towards believing EM at this point. The scum would not have dared called out the cop to role claim. Their best interest would be to try to kill the cop before he can roleclaim and finger out a Mafia. So if EM is innocent and claims that theres another Mason I think we have 3 confirmed townies. So the situation will stand as follows: Players Alive SirCrocodile/ CD (Inactive) d3mon reign of terror - COP Imran Ehsan BeeBs - MAFIA Kaziocore KevinH Electric Mango - MASON I have been voted on twice by Beebs on both Day 1 and Day 2. He was trying to get me lynched pretty strongly on Day 1 also and almost managed to pull it off by getting 3 votes. So if Beebs is a Mafia that clears me too. So that leaves: d3mon, Kaziocre, KevinH and Sic Croc. One of them is a Mason and maybe 2 are scum. I would be interested to see who the 2nd Mason is. That would make it much easier to identify who the 2nd and 3rd (maybe) scum are. Also I am not very confident that an "innocent" investigation from the Cop will be much help. As far as I remember (though I have to check again) I think I read it that there are some Mafia roles who look "innocent" to cop investigations. I think the Mafia Godfather is one such.

This is an interesting turn of events.

NO! I win!

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How do you know this?

Yeah went back and checked. Mod posted the role of player who died - 2 vanilla townies and 1 doc. So the cop is still alive.

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I meant no cop information has been posted yet which could help the townies. Either the cop is dead or he has been unsuccessful in identifying any scum yet. But at this point even some info from the cop as to who he investigated and found to be clean would have been helpful. But maybe that would just open him up for a nightkill at this point specially as the doc is dead. This is my first game so not sure how the cop roles work...does he have to reveal himself to publish any info he found or can he send info to mod to post it up (as happened in the last game)?