Imran Ehsan

Looking back at Kazio's posts..yeah I see he mentioned how he could not use his actions on night 1. I dont see why the Jack of Trades should be blocked for Night 1 in using his actions though. So maybe it was a misunderstanding on his part. In any case, I dont really think EM is scum...I am just pointing out that his argument can be used both ways. I am not sure we should go into another lynch blindly again without exploring all possible scenarios. We already have 2 dead townies, so we need to be careful.

Also, forgot to add. The lynch on Kazio was not a sure thing. He only had 3 votes on him if I remember correctly. The bandwagon lynch on Kazio was pretty weird and very fast without giving a chance to Kazio to defend against your argument, and hence my suspicions on Aenir and cam177. However, it seems like cam177's vote was just inexperience. But that doesn't mean the scum weren't trying to bandwagon and who is to say you did not engineer the lynch on behalf of the scum and got your other scum buddies to bandwagon?

It was an argument but it definitely was not rock solid. You based your assumption that Kazio could not do any night actions and hence had the possibility of only 3 roles, one of those being scum. So you voted to lynch him. But you did not consider the possibility that he may have the ability but did not chose to use it on Night 1 (as was the case). So basically you misled the town with your assumptions and led to the lynch of a townie power role. Others bandwagoned on your argument and voted to lynched him Kazio. And now you are saying that those who did not bandwagon with you and go along with your weak argument are scummy? Thats a stretch if I may say so.

I agree that it probably was a vigilante. I dont see why the scum would target the one who was looking the most scummy on Day 1. Also interested in hearing EM's take on why the ones not voting for Kazio are suspicious. So if it was a vigilante kill, then these are the possibilities: 1. Scum's kill target was protected by a doctor type role, or 2. Scum was role blocked, or 3. There's a Mafia traitor in the game and scum targeted the traitor, or 4. scum didnt send in a kill. They were either inactive or didn't kill for some other reason

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FOS = Finger Of Suspicion -> basically i am not voting to lynch you but you are in my list of suspicious character now list Lynching doesnt have to wait for end of every Day. Once the majority is reached (6 votes in this case), lynching is already done. Just wait for the mod to show up to close the thread. 'hammering in the lynch votes" => it is a likely scenario that you and cam177 saw kazio already had 4 votes on him, so if both of you are scum it looks like you would try to get a townie lynched off very quickly before he can show up to state his case or claim a role.

Yeah...I think Lynch: Target works too. In any case, if Kazio does get lynched and if he was in fact the Jack of all Trades (we will know soon), this is a big blow to us. Kazio should have role claimed earlier when the first bandwagoning started. If above scenario is correct, this also gives us quite some nice info: FOS: Aenir FAS: cam177 Both bandwagoned and hammered in the lynching votes very fast.

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This feels like a quick bandwagon to a lynch so I will wait to cast my vote until I hear from Kazio. My preference would be to lynch the inactives first if we go for the lynch on Day 1.

I am not sure we should go for a lynch right off the bat. Normally I am a big proponent of lynching from Day 1. But this game is set up so that they are no vanilla townies. How does it help us in killing off power roles early?

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Mask adjusted. Sorry for the delay. Masked and welcome. We will get that fixed ASAP. Sorry for the delay

I have given kevinH mod rights to this forum. Let me know if it doesnt work.. (It works! -KevinH)

lol..wow..if Alternate_Tree investigated d3mon and new he was a townie, he should have role claimed and saved him. Specially when kevinh had already mentioned he would vote for d3mon the next day.

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This is why when I was in college I tried to make sure to share apartments only with my close friends..not with random people found through fliers on campus. I only lived with one guy for a year or so who was not a friend of mine..but he was pretty cool. The only complaint I had about him was that he used to smoke weed in his room all the time..but since he had a separate room I didnt make much of a deal of it.

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Yeahh I am not sure if the cops would like it known who they are gonna be investigating every night. But I am interested to see if they will follow this strategy. I really dont like No lynch votes but there is just not enough info to cast a suspicion on anyone right now. So for today: Vote: No Lynch

from the Setup: 2 Mafia Goons or 2 Werewolves Not 2 Mafia and 2 Werewolves.

Well my thinking is there are either two werewolves or two Mafia goons. We dont know which faction there is. So if there are Mafia goons, the Town Cop can catch them but the Seer will only get non-werewolf results even if they investigate the scum. On the other hand if there are 2 werewolves the Town Cop will only get innocent results even when they investigate the werewolves but then the Seer will be able to catch them. This makes is a little more complicated to identify who the scum are. We cannot follow everything the Town Cop says or what the Seer says. We need to get a lynch on a scum first. Maybe the lynch will show whether we got a werewolf or a Mafia. Not sure if that makes sense.

Well here's to hoping I dont get killed by Day 1 or Night 1 like my last two games..lol I dont think the Werewolves have the ability to turn townies to werewolf. Their role PM mentions nothing of that sort..only that they can do a factional kill every night.

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lol..it was just bad luck that both Rafay and karl happened to investigate kevinH after i posted a fake result on him. I had no chance after that. Even if i survived the lynch on Day 1, i would have been lynched on Day 2.

Well there's two types of cops in the game who give wrong investigation results. There's the insane guy who always gets the opposite result and there is the paranoid guy who thinks everyone is scum. So there's 50% chance your investigation was wrong. You have no way of knowing. In any case, I doubt you will get a lynch on kenvinh. The votes are split between me and karl. If your switch your vote to karl we may get the scum before he has a chance to make a night kill and spreads his nefarious lies further !