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Nice job Kevin, here I thought it was going to be a more sane game but was very surprised.

Vote: Mariomario180 Definitely a scum candidate as from actions done. Watched EM last night and no one targeted him. (wasn't roleblocked)

And there is the no kill. Any last words until we lynch Mario?

That ends today then. Best of luck.

Gets like that, there is not much more to discuss. Preston and Mario are going to be lynched, right? There has been no reply from either of them so I guess all we can do is see what they are willing to do to defend themselves, not like it will really help their situation. If by some chance Preston is town and he is lynched today, tomorrow we may find ourselves possibly two people short tomorrow (given how many roles Kevin has given).

Yeah. I watched Preston night 1 and was successful (which showed me Rafay targeted Preston) and I watched Lyner night 2 (which I got a 'no result').

I would be more confident in lynching Mario over Preston, that is my preference. But yeah, my reasoning for suspecting Preston (should have stated this above before) is that we already had a townie JOAT but now that the scum have lost one as well, I don't know what to think.

Also takes my suspicion off EM for thinking he could have role blocked me from TBR's results. Sorry for triple post.

I was linked this though "No result" is what investigative roles receive for their action if they are roleblocked or similar. While in the majority of cases players are not informed that they have been blocked, if the player is expecting a result, it is terrible form to simply not tell the player anything (they may assume the mod missed their action or forgot to give their result). Therefore it is necessary to tell the player they obtained no results from their investigation.It should generally not be possible to obtain a "no result" when not blocked; if a role learns that nothing happened, that's not a "no result", it's a result of "nothing happened". For example, a Tracker should be told that his target did not visit anyone, and a Watcher should be told that his target was not visited by anyone. Giving "no result" in these situations is ambiguous and not normal."

Thank you, this will definitely swing my vote towards Mario for today. Seems to be a bit of confusion about role blocking, if Lyner were not to die last night and I got a "no result" I would not have much reason to say I was role blocked. The fact is that I watched Lyner and he died and in return I got a "no result" it makes me think that it was definitely a role block, and it is Mario.

Okay, did not expect that. Hard thing is I can't confirm any of this because I was role blocked, coming from a scum position, EM could have actually role blocked me (for those not reading, I was RBd last night watching Preston) and is throwing suspicion to Preston and the beauty of it is if people did lynch Preston and he turned out a townie, EM can just shift the blame off himself saying it's true what he did and what he believed in. Already seen this before. Coming from a townie perspective he should have jailed me on night 1 (seeing as he viewed myself suspicious) and picked someone other than me, instead he stopped Imran in investigating. So it's obvious EM has done nothing but harm the town so far with his night actions. I am stating my position of suspicion of EM because unless someone has anything else we should know, it will be EM's words against Prestons and right now I have no reason to trust EM considering his actions. That again I don't have complete trust in Preston as well, namely that he can easily say that he protected Lyner, hell, someone could say right now that they watched Lyner and it would be valid (because apparently Rafay is a townie). But very well, let's see what happens, I won't be taking EM's side any time soon though.

I assume it's Nick that is getting replaced? If so if people think Nick is scum then he gets replaced see how the person who replaces him goes, it's difficult to take over from a scum role as an introduced player (been there, done that) and if they were to end up doing nothing like Nick, they have probably already given up and are trying to stay below the radar which is a good sign of scum. Today we are trying to fit the pieces together and be confident in the person that we lynch has a high probability of being scum. I haven't had much to do with this seeing as the only games where I've lived long enough have been scum games but I personally think that someone who has already role claimed is not as innocent as people want them to think, as well as those who haven't claimed at all there is definitely at least one or two bad eggs in there. I'm looking at EM as possibly one of them, I already had suspicions of him at the beginning based on his first actions however his failure to capitalise with my accusers on day 1 (Lyner, TBR) made it seem to me that he didn't want to be seen as a key accuser and when I would had flipped town someone like TBR would have had to cop the flak for it leaving EM fine. Main flaw with my suspicion is that EM was hit on night 1 (who knows what it was, vig/scum) so it sort of makes it less valid. Lack of vig claim makes me think it was probably scum after all for now. As for the second it would probably be Nick for his lack of contributions and general fluff posts, if it is him to be replaced I will be watching his replacement. As for one of those that has already role claimed for someone I suspect, I think Rafay because we already had a townie tracker not only that we have a watcher as well so another investigative ability might not have been ideal to the town. I don't have much solid in terms of eliminating people and having a list and such, I'm stating what I have thought of things so far. So if TBR or Imran have come up with something that does sound solid I would join because it seems to me they are both townies.

I watched Lyner last night. But I got a 'no result'. Role blocked?

I am currently under the impression that the scum cannot be this under powered, unless those two arrows were in fact both from them. I am convinced that at least one of us that has role claimed today is scum.

Fair enough Lyner. If d3mon however does turnout being innocent there will be some explaining to do, namely those who put their votes on him. Though this could be a last ditch effort to save Rafay which people have been waiting for, unfortunately d3mon didn't deny Lyner's claim so the probability of that just decreased by a fair amount. Unvote Vote: d3mon