Aenir

(mutter mutter) FINE.

I believe he thanked you the next day.

cam saved my life and died the same night...thank you And Kaz seemed to interpret not being able to kill anyone with his 1-shot vigilante as not being able to do anything. He didn't submit any actions.

I agree. I was already thinking it was Chaplain as soon as the night began. You are right; Mafia doctors don't have guns. Also, I'm going to roleclaim as Watcher now. Here's my results: Night 1: Targeted Karl; nothing happened to him. Night 2: Targeted Imran; blocked Night 3: Targeted Electric Mango; blocked Night 4: Targeted Electric Mango; Nothing happened to him. Night 5: Targeted Chaplain of Death; blocked Alternate said he blocked me Night 2 and 3; I don't know whether he blocked me again last night or if it was blocked because Chaplain performed the night kill. Vote: Chaplain of Death

A ghost is voting!

Let's just end it.

Yeah...I was role blocked every night except the very first one, and the most recent one

:banghead: Vote: leonidas

Gunsmith is under the umbrella of Cops.

Looking at the wiki, it says that neighborizer is most often pro-town. But that doesn't mean it can't be Mafia. You say that if you were mafia you would try to mislead newer players as opposed to EM. But I wonder: you have this Gunsmith that everyone is listening to; wouldn't it be great if we could have him investigate townies instead of Mafia? Then we have days where he doesn't have any new results and they don't have solid evidence to lynch someone. That seems like a fair reason for a Mafia neighborizer to invite a competent Gunsmith. I find it more likely that you're Mafia, as opposed to there being -another- framer who also framed you at the same time.

I was already thinking he was scum, considering he never voted on day 3. Same with Karl, he said he was going to post later, but he never did. Neither of them talked much at all or voted. Vote: d3mon

Talk about a long job description. I guess he was the vigilante who killed cam the second night.

No one has disputed EM's claim of gunsmith. So far everyone has either said they believe it or they haven't said anything at all about it. I defended Imran simply because, as someone relatively new, I look around on the wiki a fair amount. So when I have something to start from, I try to think of possible scenarios. I thought that maybe Imran was a Miller or Vigilante, as I believed his behavior to be reasonable of a townie. When he claimed to be a Miller, I basically went "yeah! I thought of that!". And since so far I was going along with him, when he all of a sudden accused Chaplain, and was able to come up with a plausible reason, despite Chaplain being viewed as not having a gun ("could be godfather"), I shrugged and went along with it. Looking back, that should not have needed to be specified; it should have been noted in the post where he first voted for him. When EM pointed out the simple math, I can't vote for someone who, simply based on probability of the Gunsmith's results, is much more likely to be townie than Godfather, and at the same time, Imran is far more likely to be scum than Miller. One or the other is one thing, but -both- Chaplain being Godfather -and- Imran being Miller is just far too small a possibility. For all we know, they could both be townie. Imran could be Miller and Chaplain could be innocent. If whoever is lynched turns out to be innocent, I do not think we should automatically lynch the other guy the next day. But I do not believe both of them could be scum. No one was voting for Chaplain until Imran accused him, and there's absolutely no rationale for the scum to force the vote to be between 2 scum; that's a guaranteed loss. So if whoever is lynched -is- scum, I think that gives the all-clear to the other guy.

Sigh. Cop Derivations A Gunsmith investigates roles to determine if they have a gun in flavor or not. Exactly which roles have guns in flavor is not standardized, but generally the list includes Vigilante, Cop, Gunsmith, Paranoid Gun Owner, and all members of the Mafia capable of performing the factional kill. Serial Killer notably does not return a positive result to a Gunsmith. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cop Please stop.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Godfather --- It's very, very unlikely for Imran to be Miller -and- for Chaplain to be godfather. Whereas it is significantly more likely that Imran is scum and Chaplain is something non-gun. Perhaps I was overthinking things and going along with what Imran said simply because I had already thought of it. But just because it's thinkable doesn't mean it's probable. I had considered Chaplain to be a panicking scum while Imran was calm and reasonable. But I think it's just Chaplain being Chaplain while Imran is being a scheming Machiavelli. Vote: Imran Ehsan

Unvote: Chaplain of Death

I lol'd. Really getting desperate over there.

Fair enough, given everything else that's been said: Vote: Chaplain of Death

EM said that he investigated Chaplain on the first night and that he didn't have a gun. My understanding is that all scum would be considered to have a gun. So doesn't that mean Chaplain isn't scum?

I believe the people over here do.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miller

Because you would totally call yourself out as being scum I'm not convinced Imran is scum. He could be a vigilante or a miller. On the other hand, he could be scum or a serial killer.

I didn't say much because this is my first time, and on top of that I just don't talk much in general. Combine them you get a very very quiet person watching in the corner.

I don't know what FOS/FAS mean, so if someone could enlighten me... As to "bandwagoned and hammered in the lynching votes very fast", I just don't understand. Waited quite a while frankly, and I was under the impression that lynchings didn't happen until the day ended.

Vote: Kaziocore