Athermonuke

You do have a point there..... I think it was Colonel Mustard, in the Library, with the wrench http://www.iron-command.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/fighting0002.gif

oh...sorry to hear that =(

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays!!!!

hmm...not familiar with the bill.

I am with KevinH. He seems to be in the best position to know who is scum and who is not. To add to that, Cam177 has consistently stayed in the dark and has not given any way of seeing who he is via conversation or debate. Alternate_Tree at least has good reasons as to why he has not been big in discussing. vote: Cam177

btw, i keep a tab open on all the IRON threads I frequent so I don't forget to go to them =S. So if you see me reading this topic between 0900 -1800 CN time, I'm probably not on.

So i noticec that there is a significant amount of discussion between all of us except Cam177 and Alternate_Tree. They are pretty much unknowns at this point and i find it interesting that those two have been very quiet while two death notes have been picking us off.

I am not gloating. I am very much confused. I try to piece together puzzles and thought I was starting to see patterns but this pretty much throws a wrench in all that.

but we are aligned with the center of the galaxy!!!!!!! Something is bound to happen when that happens....right?....right?

Ugg, this is making my head hurt trying to piece it together. http://www.iron-command.com/forum/public/style_emoticons/default/suicidebastard.gif

I was wondering the same thing....doesn't make any sense to me.

I will probably sleep through it unfortunately.....

It honestly depends on how much discussion there is on the first day. If you have 4-5 people our of 14 do the majority of the discussing, then a day 1 lynch is probably not the best of options. However, if 10 or so people out of 14 are active in discussion then a day 1 lynch can be good. So it really just depends on the group, how much and what all is said.

I rip out your skull and beat you to death with it....and then spawn camp you until your rage quit! 0_o

by the way, where is Xarastier?

I agree with Imran about Xarastier. KevinH responded and made good arguments, whereas Xarastier has yet to refute any points that I had made. Vote Xarastier

wow things have quieted down a bit. Unfortunately there has been little discussion so I don't think tomorrow will bring anything new to the table. What do you guys think?

I see your point and that is why I have refrained from voting against you.

You do bring up a valid and interesting point KevinH. so we are at an interesting crossroads then. So i see that we have two choices then. Xarastier or KevinH. Xarastier: As stated above, has attempted aggressively to lynch people. The first was Lorikz Kain, a cop and now, KevinH who possibly has more information on what is going on than the rest of us. If Xarastier is scum, then he would gain from the loss of a cop and the loss of someone who has the most information. Also, if Xarastier can convince people to Lynch those he wants, it will allow him to use his deathnote on others, which would put him at a significant advantage. Evidence against Xarastier: Aggressively pursued to lynch what we now know to be a cop, who later died and now is aggressively pursuing someone who could very possibly find the deathnotes. On the other hand, if KevinH was scum. He would benefit from allowing everyone to think he has the most information. It would significantly decrease the chance that he gets lynched while he picks his targets carefully. Evidence against KevinH: Acknowledging that he was in night talks with two unknown people (or groups) and somehow not getting killed from the deathnote, which happened after his announcement. If he was a Townie, he would know that this would make him a target for sure, since the deathnotes do anything to prevent themselves from getting caught and keep everyone as much in the dark as they can. To be honest, I am torn on this. The key word is IF btw. Unfortunately there is nothing extremely substantial against either party.

That was what I was thinking. There are three possible explanations concerning KevinH: 1). KevinH and the others are Townies...that can talk at night 2). KevinH and the others are Scum...that can talk at night 3). KevinH is Scum and the others are townies and they invited him. It is highly unlikely that the others are Scum and KevinH is a townie because Scum wouldn't invite a random townie to their meeting. However, it does intrigue me that KevinH was invited to TWO separate conversations. It is possible that one group is legitimately Townie and the other is Scum. With that said, another piece of evidence is that KevinH was not the target of Deathnote after he mentioned he had conversed at night. Instead another "cop" was killed while investigating. I will not rush to a vote quite yet. I am interested in what everyone else thinks. It is possible that I missed something.

Cam and Alternate Tree are fairly quiet today

if you are voting to lynch you have to put it in bold (VOTE: insert person here)

I have to agree with Mango on that one. We need to list out what we know and try to make a best guess. Here is what we know so far (feel free to add to the list!). Also, some of this is opinion on my end. If we are to assume that a death note can only be used once in a cycle (1 day and 1 night), then there are two death notes in play. One during the day and the other at night. Looking at the intro to the thread confirms this (see the picture an red/blue text on L and Kira). Question is, are both death notes allies or are they enemies? If they are enemies, then who is on the side of the townies? (Opinion: Judging from the intro to this thread, it looks like the death notes are enemies.) The Victims: We have two victims right now. Lorikz Kain and Rafay. Lorikz Kain - Cop, (possibly had the ability to investigate), did not vote but stated that he did not want to lynch anyone, was voted against by Xarastier Rafay - former Secret Service agent, (possibly had the ability to investigate), voted to not lynch anyone, was not voted against by anyone People that stand out: KevinH - Knows two groups of possible townies, voted no lynch Xarastier - Voted for Lorikz Kain (deceased) and KevinH, very aggressive in lynching. Voting Habits: Xarastier - Lorikz Kain (deceased), KevinH Aenir - Xarastier Imran Ehsan - Xarastier killgor - Xarastier Electric Mango - Aenir (mistake in voting here...Electic Mango unvoted Aenir and voted No Lynch before the vote count was taken by the mod..see page 3, third from last post) Xx Karl xX - No Lynch Alternate_Tree - No Lynch KevinH - No Lynch Athermonuke - No Lynch Rafay - No Lynch Chaplain of death - No Lynch d3mon - No Lynch cam177 - No Lynch Leonidas (now Fernando Garcia) - No vote Lorikz Kain - No vote

Lorikz Kain was Soichiro Yagami...that name rings a bell. If my memory is correct, wasn't he a big wig in the police force or something in Death Note? Been so long since I watched the anime =S I think the question we need to figure out is...was this a random killing or was this a surgical strike? we are at a significant disadvantage if we just lost our cop >_<

hmm it does seem Xarastier is very adamant about lynching someone, unless the majority chose to not want to lynch...then he moves over to them. Additionally, he moves back to wanting to lynch the same person after an argument in his favor comes up. Very suspicious