brewersalliance

Uhhh how is me pointing out dark fox is town scummy? Lol If anything it would prevent an investigation being used on him PGO kills someone if targeted but that’s usually a town role

Thank you @TW for the correction for the vote total needed

The lies/misrepresentations of Imran: #1) Brewers is trying to end the day early by voting on robert. My vote was the second vote on robert. There are 10 players alive. to hammer him we need a majoiryt. TW said it takes 5 to lynch, but I think that was actually a mistake by him, as 5 is not a majority, 6 is. (OOC I did DM TW and ask him for clarification on this) Either way tho, putting a second vote on someone is not trying to end the day early. If TW is right and it needs 5,we would still need 3 more votes to hammer him.. its not like i droped vote 4 on him an hour into the day.... #2) I Organized and lead the lynch of two townies: I lead the push for the Kevin lynch. I did not lead the Jazzy push. I switched to Jazzy to save velocity. Imran was the one pushing jazzy since D2... but then tries to frame me for it.... another lie. #3) I said TMs kill was for OOC reasons: I never said thats why Tony was killed. I said it was BS tony was killed since he was just let back in the game. I did not try to plant the seed that someone from IRON killed tony or some shit like Imran is accusing me of. Im pretty sure the IRON scum killed Tony was Zacchs theory... Again another lie Scum need to lie to get townies lynched. And Imran is lying. If imran was town, what reasons would he have to misrepresent facts and events to try to get me lynched? What does Kevin always say? Lynch all liars

I read that entire post like four times and im failing to see where your "reasons for voting me are" this is more so just a summary of your actions and trying to defend yourself... the only thing you even mention is the TM thing and that is the biggest fucking stretch/reach of anything in this game. [ I literally threatened to stop playing this game if tony wasnt allowed to play. I had NG gov request tony be allowed to play. I asked FTW and CCC gov to refuse to play in the game if tony isnt allowed to play. I blew up Blade's DMs about this. I blew up TWs DMs about this. So youre really saying I did all this OOC shit, as a ploy to cover me killing tony? If i did that, I should be banned from games. Never once did i say TM was killed for out of character reasons. There goes Imran again misrepresenting what actually happened. I was pissed tony was killed the second he was allowed to actually play the game. I made a big deal of him being banned and even refused to play if tony was not allowed to play. tony finally got masked and was killed. That was my issues. It was literally the same as if someone joined the game as a replacement and than was instantly killed (which mods have even not allowed to happen before). Thats what I said was bull shit. Stop lying and changing the facts.... How many times does Imran have to lie to make it obvious to everyone he is scum lol That brings me back to this This felt to me like a placeholder from imran. Where he has literally nothing to go on because he was caught and then promises to detail why im scum.... And what does he come up with? The Tony shit??? If i did all of that shit OOC just to set up the tony kill Id be cheating. I am beyond offended that you would think I would stoop that low. You are legit accusing me of cheating, because thats exactly what doing what u said would be. Imran literally has nothing to come up with other than that nonsense. youre literally scrambling and grasping at straws here

For me what seals the deal on imran being scum is how he has multiple times commented on the outcome of actions: He states the night kicks are weird/strange. Only purpose of a statement like this is to try to make it seem like you don’t understand the kills when in fact you planned them. He comments about the coo being killed. No shit the coo dying is bad. Again the only reason to point out how bad it is would be to try to look like a townie. If you’re actually town you don’t need to point this out. And then sprinkle in the misleading comments he made today about me, how he defends Kevin, when only a scum player would know Kevin was actually town, and then tries to put the focus of our attention on Kevin’s wagon… which if I am town and so is dark fox (hint, we both are) then the wagon was all town… and who would know that? A scum player. Gets them a free lynch and it’s easy to do. Scum didn’t need to join Kevin’s wagon. Kevin fucked up and deserved his lynch. Scum could just sit back and watch. Which is what imran did lol Maybe he will come up with this elaborate story and convince y’all I’m scum, but if he does and there aren’t four scum and we get another day, make sure to lynch him. Even if we lynch imran and get one scum, we will probably lose our watcher tonight. Zacch can just be locked down by the rolebloxker so he won’t be able to stop the scum kills. They can get th mind stone then start hunting for the other players without threat of being watched or blocked by a BG…. Watcher and voyer in play… tw did something similar in his iron game once. Had a tracker and motion detector too in that one. If he did that, I’m guessing cum might have a ninja ability we might have to deal with too… Either way night planning can wait. For now, we need to lock down the lynch (hint, imran) and then we can figure out the night phase One last thing- this feels weird too. Saying he’s going to respond but can’t and just is trying to prevent me from saying he’s ducking… blames RL… look I get it, rl can make things hard for mafia but at the same time, I get vibes of stalling here/ an attempt to buy some time so imran can come up with a lie/story of why I’m scum and he’s town.

Good luck because im def not scum lmfao. But hey, you are scum so you have to try something to survive. @preston, on mobile so can’t quote you’re thing about the tells but the scum tell is called look at me im so town, or congratulating the doctor. It’s a very common scum tell for a scum player to make a comment about the night kills- pointing out how bad it is that the cop died or saying good job if a kill is blocked. Anyone who is actually town knows it’s bad the cop died or good the kill was blocked. The only reason to say something like that is to try to highlight how u feel about the results, and make people think u are disappointed the cop died or happy the doctor blocked a kill Per the wiki on scum tells and scum Hunting: Day 2+ mafia errors Gloating (any form of "complaining" about how bad the previous night was, how the doctor/cop was killed, etc.) Similar to "congratulating the doctor".

4 scum usually are in 16 player games. so there could be 4 scum but we are 1 short of the 16. i think its more likely we have three but def plausible we have 4 i guess its not lylo technically, its MYLO. a mislynch is a loss. technically we could no lynch and survive aniother day if there are 4 scum, but i dont like no lynch

scenerios. 10 players alive If four scum: 6 town 4 scum Mislynch today: 5 town, 4 scum night kill sucessful: 4-4 scum wins if 3 scum: 7T 3S mislynch today 6T 3S NK 5T 3s Mislynch 4T 3s NK 3t 3s scum wins So we either have 1 or two mislynchess left depending on the number of scum. if somehow we are at lylo, scum could rapid fire four votes and out someone with just 1 vote to hammered lynch and win. so if u see rapid fire voting on someone and youre town and the first vote on that person, it migh be a good idea to unvote on them to prevent a hammer and insta win just in case. if we still think they are scum you can always re cast your vote later

3 actually lol imran voted for me as well but yeah we need everyone to be active now.

u got lucky with your role. you got America's ass

also scum clearly has a role blocker. we need to hopefully get them with todays lynch, since they will most likely block zacch, and then kill velocity to get the mind stone. also zacch is now confirmed town 10000000% pretty sure he copied and pasted from his role pm cause it carried over the hyperlink for his character lol

while im not sure if the actual reason imran and company killed tony was the conflict... you are right that scum has at least one member from iron- Imran lol One thing that can be said, there is not set order for scum kills. If there was they would have had to kill Velocity (vision) first meaning my BD target would have kicked in and I would have died. Imran correct- scum can pick and chose who they want to kill. no set order they have to kill

If Velocity is scum why hasn't anyone come out and disputed his name claim. how can that only benifit scum? lww hid his full claim and died. if he fully claimed and u knew he had a stone u could have chosen to protect him instead of velocity since it would have been cop with a stone. so yeah, it actually does benefit the town. Your own post is literally the reason why u should fully claim and how it can benefit town lol you were torn who to protect. if LWW gave us all the info instead of hiding his name and stone status you more likely than not would have protected him and we still would have a cop. i also asked people to name claim because why on earth would you hide it? its standard practice to claim in full. Sometimes mod make the characters and roles fit together (like a lot do here) so you can get information based on it. i actually had a post written up suggesting who to protect but when i clicked post TW locked the game already haha. either way too late now. I get it for LWW specifically it would have been helpful as not all town have stones. But at this point, for me to name claim, where is the benefit for town? i mean i didnt ask you to fully claim right now lol but i hope you can see how withholding info can be damning and it could benefit town. so while voting me is your right, im really hoping you realize the asking for someones name is a super weak reason to vote someone. ive literally presented actual evidence of imran directly lying and trying to misrepresent what happened.... surely someone lying and trying to manipulate things with misrepresentations has to be more scummy in your eyes than me asking someone their character name lol

while im not sure if the actual reason imran and company killed tony was the conflict... you are right that scum has at least one member from iron- Imran lol

how can that only benifit scum? lww hid his full claim and died. if he fully claimed and u knew he had a stone u could have chosen to protect him instead of velocity since it would have been cop with a stone. so yeah, it actually does benefit the town. Your own post is literally the reason why u should fully claim and how it can benefit town lol you were torn who to protect. if LWW gave us all the info instead of hiding his name and stone status you more likely than not would have protected him and we still would have a cop. i also asked people to name claim because why on earth would you hide it? its standard practice to claim in full. Sometimes mod make the characters and roles fit together (like a lot do here) so you can get information based on it. i actually had a post written up suggesting who to protect but when i clicked post TW locked the game already haha. either way too late now.

As dumb as your take is, this is irrelevant to the game. Back to the game and not Roberts delusions There are tons of types of cops @dark fox…. Role cop, coo, vanilla coo, FBI agent, etc Pretty sure isoc modded a game once where every town role was some sort of cop

i dont get what makes you think I dont ever catch scum. I have one of the best track records for catching scum in the entire community, and everyone but u seems to know that. Literally ever since I got you on D1 like three years ago, every time you talk about me, you mention how I cant ever get anyone whos scum. it blows my mind how oblivious you are sometimes lol i mean ive gotten you on day 1, lyner a couple times, the entier scum team on d2 in the shield game, isco in that mk game where he was my lover, and the list goes on. but yeah keep calling me trash every single game lmfao

notice how you keep ignoring everything I said Imran is literally one of the scum suspects I mentioned in my previous post are you talking about this post??? you literally just said a tiny sentence about imran... lol but thanks for pointing this out and reminding me to go back and read your post... notice anything similar with this??? they are literally echoing each other about the "strange scum kill choices" and why would anyone highlight how "strange" they are? to pretend to not understand why scum is making those choices to appear town. im 95% sure both imran and lyner are scum partners.

i mean considering I know my role, and I know im town, i would know that everyone on kevins wagon is town lol I didnt edit my post?? hence why it says kevin and not robert? lol

also notice how both Lyner and kevin just completely ignored everything I said about imran. I am guessing one of them, if not both are imran's partners sorry, meant robert, not kevin

its cause who is on the wagon. llw died- town tony died-town jazzy died- town zacch- confirmed town by both jazzy and lww dark fox- town. we havent had any VTs yet so its safe to say there are not any. me- town. so thats how the entire kevin wagon was town. Im clearly not saying Jazzy was all town too. Im literally voting imran lmfao

Here is even more misinformation. I pushed for the lynch of Kevin. I did not lead or organize the lynch of jazzy lol i joined that one as the fourth vote.... you literally voted for jazzy before I did. unvote vote imran. intentionally misrepresenting facts is a VERY big scum tell. and then combine that with the comments he made to start the day, which is called "look at me im so town" (a very commonly used scum move) and im pretty sure we have one scum here. I will pull up the quotes later as I dont have time now, but I saw you make multiple posts that time to get people to vote jazz. The fact you voted later doesnt really mean anything. The only point in your favor here is lww was doing the same thing. I pulled up the quotes for you. you were the one pushing jazzy and starting on jazzy way back on day 2. so yeah... not me lol So timeline: D2, you call out Jazzy serval times. You vote him first. You avoid the robert wagon D3: you again call out jazzys activity and say you are considering voting him multiple times. You dont vote him but you FoS him I do say im open to voting jazy here: however, that is the very first time i mentioned him and voting him... and this is well after you have been highlighting him throughout d2 and d3 This is where you claim im trying to push for jazzy: so why did i post that? well lets look back a few posts where I said this: literally voted jazzy to try to save our watcher with the mind stone.. I was defending velocity hard and u know it. Imran is scum for sure, and just trying to paint it like i lead the lynch of two townies, one he conveniently avoided, and the other that he actually has been leading the charge against D2 since

in fact, who was the very first person to vote for Jazzy, all the way back on D2? Imran The focus was on Kevin and his horrible role claim, and what does Imran, do? Avoids it and then votes for Jazzy. Imran also was one of Kevin's strongest defenders. And how would someone know to defend Kevin? If you are scum and know Kevin is town. It allows you to go see? I wasnt on the Kevin wagon so I was not scum. imran is trying here to put the focus on kevins wagon. Well who voted Kevin? Lww-town Tony-Town Zacch-Town Jazzy- Town Dark Fox-99.99% town me- town Imran knows that not a sinlge person on Kevins wagon was scum so he wanted to push the focus of the day onto the people on kevins wagon. He is also trying ehre to make it sound like he thinks its weird who the scum killed... again tryong to act confused as to why they would target who they did, when in reality he was privvy to the convo. Again, a scum tell. Acting confused by scums actions to try to go look at me im town. IDK how i missed this before. I am very very confident imran is scum. Lyner is my #2 suspect for this: In the shield game he did something very similar when he was scum... Followed by robert

robert is at 2 votes... still needs three more to be lynched. thats not even close to being lynched at this point. so how on earth am i trying to end the day early?? this is another red flag for me. Misinformation is a HUGE scum tell. Here is even more misinformation. I pushed for the lynch of Kevin. I did not lead or organize the lynch of jazzy lol i joined that one as the fourth vote.... you literally voted for jazzy before I did. unvote vote imran. intentionally misrepresenting facts is a VERY big scum tell. and then combine that with the comments he made to start the day, which is called "look at me im so town" (a very commonly used scum move) and im pretty sure we have one scum here.

ACTUALLY i missed this post before I voted for Imran. Same sentiment as what i said for imran but when you combine it with everything else from before vore robert