Velocity

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Day 2: Day 3: Some interesting things to note: Dontavian did vote Kevin in D1, which doesn't make him innocent since no one else followed along, but is a good plus in his favorEveryone alive except Rafay voted to lynch Tony in D2 (and Rafay voted for TW), so everyone voted to lynch a townie that dayCaptain and I are the only two players alive to successfully lynch a mafia, which doesn't make us innocent, but is the most townie thing you can do IMOVelocity has not done a single thing that could be considered "townie" in my book. He didn't vote D1 or D3, and D2 he hammered TonyAfter considering all the evidence, I still am a little bit suspicious of Dontavian for his late-game actions, but I think there is a greater chance that Velocity is our final scum. Therefore... Vote: Velocity lol dude I barely ever vote, if that’s your best evidence then you don’t got a very strong basis. I think it’s pretty clear who the scum is, at this point. If I get lynched, when I flip, you’d do good to take out lww. Otherwise, the truth will be revealed tomorrow, granted captain doesn’t kill a town and accidentally make it a scum win instantly.

I had voted for lww a while back

I mean, he did answer the question by denying to answer it 🤔

I've read this several times and it makes my head spin lol. So you're admitting that he would have done what he did if you were his mafia partner, but it would have been smarter of him to bus you, which is why you think I did it? I do agree that this is basically MYLO if captain shoots again, but I'm hoping he knows well enough to not do that unless he's 100% certain that he knows who the remaining scum is. If he doesn't shoot then we're guaranteed to have one last chance tomorrow, regardless of who is lynched today.No. Not at all. I’m saying it would have been a bad call to do what he did if I was his partner. It simply doesn’t make sense why he would NOT try to get me lynched or me get him lynched to build credit. It makes no sense why I would NOT jump on a bus against him or him against me, near the end of the day. You did exactly what the stereotypical scum thing to do is. When your partner is about to be lynched, jump on at the end so it looks like you helped to lynch them. The only way it makes sense for him to do what he did and what happened is if I don’t know he was scum and he knew that if I flipped as a town he would be screwed, and he and his partner had made some weird strategy. Why he didn’t try to get my lynched is beyond me. What did help, with what he did, was give you a chance to vote for him to build credit with the town. What did help, with what he did, is give you somebody to go after today, which is why you’re going after me.

This is beyond stupid. So let me get this straight, now you're saying that COD would have shifted suspicion off you instead of bussing you, and that he would've tried to push another lynch target? This is exactly what happened, and hilariously it's TW who he tried to push the votes to, who you just said no one would have lynched. Maybe a little mafia strategy disagreement? Also how are you going to say that voting on what seems to be the second to last scum with 8 players left at the time is scummy? If I had not voted COD he would have gone to trial by combat with TW and possibly you for not voting, and there's a pretty decent chance he would have lived. You honestly can't be serious in pretending like me lynching COD is somehow more suspicious than Don voting captain or you voting... *checks notes* ...no one. Lol I looked up this dude in the ASOIAF wiki after you said this and he dies like halfway through the book. At least Barristan Selmy goes on a rampage in my revenge and gives me a proper burial, which is all you can ask for in this world. No. What I’m saying is that in your fantasy thought where me and him are both scum, he would have done what he did, which is pretty darn stupid. What a good scum would have done is tried to bus me to build his own credit by getting a scum lynched. That’s... how you avoid getting lynched. He didn’t try to do it, because he knew I would flip as town and he would die anyways. Why he didn’t try to do that anyways is beyond me, as it would have taken out a town. Funny I mention scum getting other scum lynched. That’s what I believe you just did yesterday. You knew it was going to be 50/50 on if he died, so you decided to take the chance and get him killed, hoping to get me or Don lynched today, so you could win. Your assertion that town has 2 more mislynches is partially wrong, if a town is lynched and captain shoots a town, the scum will probably shoot another town, which leaves 1 scum and 1 town. If I am lynched, and cannot protect anybody, the chances of that happening are much higher. If I get lynched, the scum only has to kill captain and captain shoot somebody that isn’t the scum and they win. Don would likely be shot by captain, which would lead to scum winning. If lww gets lynched and somehow isn’t scum, and I protect the right person tonight, even if captain misfires we have another day becuase I have my BP and my protected target will not die, so it’ll be 3 town and 1 scum, thus continuing the game. I want Rafay to give us his results. If I turn up town I’m hoping it will convince y’all that I’m not scum, beucase there’s no longer a tailor out there that could possibly make me appear town. And as I said before, but will reiterate, I doubt that a scum godfather would exist in the same game as a scum tailor.

You both were stuck as the last two people that we knew nothing about, and you ended up being the first to make a claim, which was admittedly a pretty decent one. Captain basically said that he was going to shoot whichever of the two of you wasn't lynched before you made that claim, so what do you think makes more sense? Double-bussing each other and making Captain even more suspicious of you, or trying to add some extra believability to your claim before making a last-ditch effort to get TW lynched and take a vig kill for the team? In fact you basically admitted that you were aware of the fact that you'd be shot if COD was lynched, which influenced the claim you've gone with. If COD was lynched it was likely you were going to shoot me, which would mean I would have to retroactively explain why I didn’t die, which would have cast a lot of suspicion if I claimed afterwards instead of today, but I wanted to avoid a mass claim if possible. Tbh the only reason that I'm not already voting you is because I think Dontavian has been extremely suspicious as well since dropping the Dothraki bit, all the way up to voting captain yesterday for whatever reason. Captain is basically the most confirmed townie outside of maybe Rafay since he claimed vig before shooting mafia, and the way Don tried to make him look suspicious while completely overlooking COD is a definite scum tell to me. I am almost 100% certain that one of you two is scum, I'm just not convinced that I know which is which. The “claim I’ve gone with” is my role. I protected Rafay last night. What makes sense to me is a townie coming out about his role so the vigilante doesn’t waste a shot on him. It would have made a lot more sense if we were both scum to shift it onto somebody that wasn’t one of us. If you want to make the argument that somebody other than me or COD could be lynched, you have to accept that me and him are both scum, which by the case. I think it’s suspicious as hell of you to swap onto him near the end of the day, so when he gets lynched and turns up as a scum you can use it to say “look! I lynched a scum!” It’s almost always either the first or last person to join a wagon on a scum that is scum, if anyone is. You are the person who would’ve had the most reason to kill TW, as well. He kept questioning that you could probably be a godfather. I think you realized, if he was allowed to make it to today, he would have figured out that with a tailor you were probably tailored to look like town. And people follow TW, so you wanted to get him out of the picture. We cannot trust Rafay’s town result on you now. There was a tailor out there until last night. What we know about you is that you’re claiming VT. That is all we can be sure of. And I’m not going to believe that. The admiral of the fleet? The one leading the entire navy? A VT? I’d think Daenerys’s admiral would have as much power as her bodyguard (me, a bodyguard). Definitely not as little as say, a dorthraki screamer. I think I’ve seen enough. An FOS simply does not do. Vote: lww

Also I just want to point out that this is completely false. With less than 24 hours to go, COD didn't even have any votes, and captain took his vote off you right after this vote count. There was suspicion around COD for not claiming, but you two were not "the only options for a lynch" by any stretch. TW was never going to end up getting lynched, don’t get that in your head. Nobody wants to lynched TW, and when there’s better candidates than him people will take it. People were pushing me and COD more than WP. You were basically the only person pushing WP. The only reason WP had votes is because you were playing multiple sides of the vote in questioning my claim, nudging COD about that he could be lynched, and voting WP.

If I’m not being a massive idiot right now (which I may be)... N4 doctor protects the mafia’s target. N4 Jailkeeper jails the mafia’s target. N4 Jailkeeper jails the person performing the killing action. N4 roleblocker roleblocks the person performing the kill. The last option, which I don’t think happened, is that scum didn’t perform a kill. Each one of those above actions has a % chance of being the cause of no kill last night? Correct me if I’m wrong. I am the N2, N4 roleblocker. N2 I didn’t submit an action. I closed the tab of the forum I always have open to remind myself to check and forgot about it until it was too late. N4, last night, I roleblocked COD. He was the second to last person in the wagon, and in my mind I didn’t have anyone better at that time since I hadn’t been paying a lot of attention to this game (or the forum much at all).

I hope Rafay was smart last night and investigated me. I think a godfather is very unlikely since there was a tailor in play (a variant of framer that can make somebody show up town to a cop). LWW could have been tailored to show up as town, so we can’t really say he’s town based on that. Any result after that night I think can be trusted because I don’t think a godfather would be in the game with a tailor as well. Me and COD were the only options for a lynch yesterday, no argument to be made otherwise. If we were both scum why would he try to defend me instead of try and get me lynched, to build town credit? Him defending me if we were both scum would just put me in a really bad position if he got lynched (which did happen). However, it would give his other remaining partner an easier time going after me for that exact reason the next day... I think Rafay is truly the cop, and captain I doubt is scum. Don is possible but unlikely to be scum, he committed to his role all game. Which leaves only lww and myself. I know I’m town, so.. FOS LWW (I think this might be my second FOS ever!) I think we need a claim from him, since there’s nothing left to be lost by him not claiming and it can only help town.

Well, I kind of forgot about this little bit too. @Velocity, since you have now claimed, mind explaining what you wanted to explain? This is now a little bit more sus in my eye as in your RC post you said you had nothing much more to share. If COD was lynched it was likely you were going to shoot me, which would mean I would have to retroactively explain why I didn’t die, which would have cast a lot of suspicion if I claimed afterwards instead of today, but I wanted to avoid a mass claim if possible. As far as me viewing this thread and the forums go, I always keep this tab open so sometimes I click onto it and don’t mean to, sometimes it might just say I’m reading and I’m not, but I do usually check in a few times a day. Because I hadn’t been clicked onto this website until just now, after about 5:30 EST (4:30 central) when LWW made his post before you. I’m not sure why it says I’m viewing beyond that.

We didn’t know he was a miller until he claimed on D2, just some suspected iirc, and I wasn’t paying an incredible amount of attention on D1 since it was so early on, but I saw him say that he would “claim tomorrow.” I was already inclined to protect him, as I usually protect one of the much more active players in the early nights when we know little to nothing, so his talking like that got me to decide on him.TW literally all but confirmed it on D1. Someone (I think Kevin actually) blurted out that he seemed to be claiming Miller, and TW basically said he wasn't wrong but he couldn't confirm just yet. Also I know you, and you do lurk, but you usually do pay attention to games too, so I don't know if I buy that you just weren't thinking and protected TW out of nowhere.I do pay attention, but a lot less so on D1, unless I know something right off of the bat. TW is always one of my top choices to protect when I can regardless, as I already mentioned, since he is very active and a very good player to have on the town side. I honestly think I missed Kevin saying that he was a Miller on D1, becuase I just knew that he was going to claim and it seemed like it was something important.

Wait why would you protect TW? If he's Miller then scum would be complete morons to kill him, and if he's scum, then...yeah lol.We didn’t know he was a miller until he claimed on D2, just some suspected iirc, and I wasn’t paying an incredible amount of attention on D1 since it was so early on, but I saw him say that he would “claim tomorrow.” I was already inclined to protect him, as I usually protect one of the much more active players in the early nights when we know little to nothing, so his talking like that got me to decide on him.

Ok... VOTE: Velocity You didn’t even shout it! I’m going to spare the good captain the stress of shooting me. I am Daario Naharis, the Commander of the Second Sons, and a Bodyguard I was also informed that I am 1-shot bulletproof. I do not know if it has been used yet or not, but I haven’t been told and likely won’t be. I could swear it’s brewers messing with me, because I remarked before the roles for this game were sent out that he doesn’t use very many bulletproof roles. N1 - I protected TW, as I wanted to see what his claim was, and if he’s town aligned he is always a good player to have. N2 - I protected Rafay. Despite his blunder with the whole TW situation, I believe that he is the cop. The cop is always a good choice to protect. I don’t have much more to share about my role, but to re-iterate I am a 1-shot bulletproof bodyguard. There’s also likely a scum role that gets around my ability, but I don’t know.

I am in agreement with that plan. What really sucks is that COD and Velocity have been put into a position where they can no longer role claim (without mass role claim becoming an issue). I have a feeling that is why COD has been less active as you have stated, "Breaking the integrity of the game" as COD had previously stated. I’ve been debating claiming or not, because if I do it’ll save town a lot of trouble, and if I don’t I’ll have to claim tomorrow anyways to explain something (if I’m not lynched).

I’m around for the most part, I lurk a lot like WP and talk when my input is needed or I believe it would be good to have. Not to agree with FB, I think his “50%” thing is related to the fact that you either are or are not scum, either one or the other. That’s my best guess. I see the actual chances as different like the rest of y’all, though.

AND YOUR GUESS WOULD BE WRONG. ALSO, NOT SURE HOW I ENEDED UP ON TW’S POTENTIAL SCUM LIST, BUT HE’S OFF AS WELL. SO, SINCE I’M APPARENTLY SUS AND WE’RE IN D3, I’LL ROLL THE DICE AND RC NOW, THEN THE INFO IS OUT THERE.I’M “Jhogo, a dothraki screamer and Vanilla Townie” DOTHRAKI SCREAMER...THUS THAT’S WHY ALL MY POSTS HAVE BEEN SHOUTING (SCREAMING). My scum list? The only list you were put on is an unknown list because nothing was known about your alleged role until now. I’d like to know why you chose to role claim now as well though. You weren’t under any sort of pressure. I believe this leaves COD and Velocity as the only two people we have no information (uncovered or given) about now. I’d prefer to not claim like Don for no real reason, since it could just end up as a mass role claim situation and every role is known, which kind of breaks the spirit imo. But if people start voting me and I have to to prove that I’m town, I’ll do it.

I’m guessing that this game doesn’t have many VTs, if any. Signs point to the game maybe being role madness or at least chock full of a lot of PRs.

That’s a lot of votes for finster.

AGREED, IT SHOULD BE D3, NOT D4. ALSO AGREED, GOOD JOB WHOEVER GOT KEVIN, THAT SON OF A HARPY! 2 MORE TOWNIE GONE THOUGH AND ONLY LEAD SO FAR IS THE CONTINUANCE OF THE TW IS A MILLER DISCUSSION. WHY WOULD THEY TARGET TORRES OVERNIGHT? He was as close a confirmed town as there was, so killing him sets the town back.

Shouldn’t it be D3?

I somehow missed deadline by less then ten minutes I doubt he’ll count it, but let it be known if I could Vote: Tony M Nevermind, I’m a massive tool as was thinking EST (where I live), not CST

And you're still wrong. I don't quite understand this. Not the fact that you're taking me at my word (because I'm telling the truth), but the vote for Rafay. Rafay's horrendously wrong in voting for me but why are you voting for someone who has claimed Cop and has not been countered? Let me be clear about this: I don't think Rafay is scum. It is likely that he is a Cop and is just voting for me for some retarded reason. Vote: Tony Not necessarily because it's me your voting for, but because you've hardly contributed at all this game, and basically admitting that you're just placing a side vote to avoid getting lynched instead of committing to an actual vote feels really scummy to me. I have to kind of agree with this. If you're only voting for LWW to register a vote just because instead of voting on someone who might actually get lynched today that does look kind of bad. Overall I'm still most critical of the 3 people who have challenged my role claim. I don't fault you because you should but I also have the benefit of knowing that I'm telling the truth and therefore it looks scummy to me that Kevin, COD, and Wolfpacks have done so. Of the three of them, Kevin has been the most vocal in repeatedly calling it into question. Wolfpacks however has done so and then voted for Rafay who claimed Cop for some reason.. So for now.. Vote: Wolfpacks Can you explain the vote on Rafay? I sort of agree with this, but I have to follow more with lww and voting for tony, later on this night. I might not if he claims and it’s believable, or there’s some other reason to vote for somebody else, but we should be voting, and not just voting to vote to register.

Come on guys, at least FOS someone or something. The day is more than halfway over.If we trust TW: TW cleared, Torres cleared, captain most suspicious but nobody overly so It we don’t trust TW: TW suspicious, Torres 50/50, captain not as suspicious If we think TW is scum: TW highly suspicious, Torres pretty cleared, captain a bit suspicious If we think Rafay makes a lot of sense: We don’t I’m willing to give TW the benefit of the doubt at least for today, but his experience does make it possible this could be a power play by him, in my mind. Personally, I don’t think captain is super suspicious, but I can see how the current things we know could point that way, since nobody else is really suspicious much at all.

It’s day 2, I’m not really suspicious of anybody more than any another as of now.