lilweirdward

Brewers setting a new gold standard for bastard modding. You love to see it.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I agree with MK 🤢 Sorry Torres, but mafia will never shoot you because you read scum too easily and don't seriously look for scum. Also depending on how some other games turn out, you might actively make town's life harder, especially late game. So it's better to just get this over with now and let you focus on your own game. Vote Torres Btw, on this same token, whichever scum faction/SK shot Tony last night is the worst. He's fun to have in the game and makes lots of random votes, so idk why you'd get rid of him now. My guess is that it's either newer mafia or someone who personally doesn't like his style.

Alright guys, let's try to take our time a bit more with our votes today. No point in rushing anything through. Did anyone come up with any interesting flavor in their actions last night? I'm not asking anyone to RC, but things like flavored hit attempts can sometimes connect some dots on which characters we're looking for.

Well hopefully I'm just being paranoid and it's over lol. I guess we'll see.

If it wasn't Torres who killed Kevin (I can't prove he didn't but it's easier to rationalize his attempt to kill TW), and it wasn't Nadarr who killed Kevin (not possible by your tracker claim), then the only remaining possibility is that there's still a scum faction at large that we haven't discovered yet. One that you're a part of, maybe? Also I was focusing on Kevin's vote because you exonerated the most likely candidate. Half of the players in this game seem to be OP, so the idea that Nadarr got a single day kill shot in addition to her normal SK role isn't really that far fetched. It's impossible though if you really tracked her and got no result though. Unless you're lying. I'm still mad at you lol. If you do flip town then it'll go in the record books as worst town play in history, forsure. Only one way to find out though I guess.

Idk, this reads like a statement of unvoting ("I will unvote...for now"), not an intent to unvote. Depends on whether Robert sticks to the rule that it must be on a separate line. It's not technically over either way I guess. There might be a vig that can save this, or maybe MK is the lone scum. Guess we'll see when Robert wakes up lol.

I don't buy it. So Torres has been the role blocker this whole time, right? My role blocked message was the same "surrounded by rocks" thing that I've gotten almost every night, and the same thing Kevin got N1, so whoever role blocked me has had that role since the beginning. That leaves essentially only two possibilities: 1. Torres is a dual role blocker and SK. Seems unlikely to me, but I don't have experience modding so I'm curious how TW and brewers perceive it. Also it would likely mean that Torres is that one rock lady role and that no one is Slade or joker, which also seems very unlikely (I still think Robert was confirming that Joker is in the game, but I could be wrong). 2. Torres is just an RB, and gained a factional kill last night when Nadarr died. This seems really weird, since it sort of breaks the "three SKs" theory and claims Torres is just a lone mafia with nothing except role blocking. It also means he came to with this entire Vig gambit just to avoid claiming something that could be interpreted as an RB, which is super weird imo. Idk, Torres has a story that made sense in every way except how someone should logically play the role he claimed, which if I've learned anything about Torres it's that he doesn't play games logically lol. MK's theory requires a bigger stretch, and I'm not even getting into how Kevin died during N3 if Nadarr was a day killer. Lol brewers is survivor and knows Torres isn't scum at this point, but it's easier for him to win like this. Stupid, I hope Robert either counts it as an unvote or counts mine since he never declared the day ended.

Also if we're going back to the very first lynch, it's starting to seem really suspicious that MK not only didn't vote for Velocity, but made a show of wanting to be more cautious. Town MK would lynch Velocity any chance he could get. He did it in TW's game when Velocity was all but confirmed town lol. This time though he wouldn't have known there were SKs in the game, and would've had incentive to avoid being on the lynch train of an innocent townie, just like brewers speculated about Lyner. FoS MK

Pretty sure brewers unvote counted, but just in case. Unvote Hopefully that works lol, because there seem like a lot of holes in MK's story. For one, how could you have gotten no result on tracking Nadarr? Someone had to have killed Kevin that night, and if Torres was busy trying to shoot a commuter lol then theoretically she can be the only killer alive at that point to have done it. Secondly there's no way Torres visited only me because I'm not bulletproof (unless it's so hidden that Robert won't even tell me about it). Even if he roleblocked me and tried to kill TW, you should have gotten results on both movements, not just the one. Seems really fishy. Also Lyner was ready to go with that hammer 🤔

I don't remember everyone's flavor characters, but I'm a flavor cop, Lyner is a backup cop, brewers is a 2-shot bulletproof survivor, and Torres is a 1-shot bulletproof strongman vig. Those are the claims anyway.

Technically you being a commuter doesn't mean that he's not an SK, it just means the strongman claim isn't necessarily fake. It still doesn't explain why his shot on brewers failed, although I'm pretty sure that's the day brewers said he got beat up, right? Idk what else we're supposed to do. The only person who hasn't RCed is MK, and as long as he's not some sort of investigative role then we don't really have much else to go on. I guess technically we could just lynch someone else to be safe, and if the Torres theory is correct then he still can't win for at least another day. That seems kind of dumb though lol.

FYI, he's at 3 votes since MK voted for him early on.

Vote: Torres Honestly I have my doubts, but the only other possibility is that I'm the only cop in a game with 4 anti-town players and one neutral one, and that's nearly impossible. I'm choosing the more reasonable option and hoping that it's also the right one.

Aren't you trying to mod your own game?? And you don't know how a strongman modifier works??? This had better be a bluff because you got caught lol.

@TW, I targeted Lyner last night to get an item. I was role blocked. @Torres, in addition to brewers questions, I'm curious how you could've "missed" your shot on brewers if you're a strongman and he's claimed bulletproof, which doesn't stop strongman shots AFAIK.

I'd understand if he won't confirm it, but it can't hurt to try. Also I know you want to get this game over with, but I'm kind of competitive lol and I'd prefer to win if I can help it. I'm still leaning towards Torres, but just Robert's text alone has raised doubts in my mind, and I'd like to see the game play out a tiny bit more before committing to anything.

I'm starting to doubt the "three SK" theory. I don't have a better one, but it feels like Robert is heavily implying that there are still two scum left, because Slade surely has to be a real character in game, and he's now confirmed that Joker is as well. I appreciate him confirming that Nadarr (scarecrow) was the source of the bomb day kill though. I can't tell if there are meant to be other hints in his post or not. I strongly suspect that someone on my side is only pretending to be. I can't figure out if Torres is an SK, mafia, or just a horrible Vig lol, but I'm still hoping that TW holds the key. @Robert, this may seem obvious lol, but can you confirm that Slade is a real character and not just flavor text? Just so I'm not working off of assumptions.

How many votes does D34TH have now?

Personally I'm waiting for TW to give his side of things. Even though it definitely seems like we only have one scum left, that's not necessarily the only possibility and I want to be as sure as I can be before placing my vote. @Torres, do you have anything left to offer now that you've had some time to think? I know it seems like we won't believe you no matter what, but I'm still feeling persuadable. Maybe I missed something in your story that connects the dots?

Yeah good catch, that definitely makes sense. So it was a likely a scum action the whole time, just not scum team.

Honestly I wouldn't believe this if it wasn't Robert's game where he said he wanted to use lesser seen roles lol, because otherwise this is basically impossible to prove or disprove, right? It would be a clever way of having help for town with me as apparently the only cop, although Robert probably didn't expect me to just be kept alive the whole game like this lol. Oh btw there's still the fact that someone killed Rafay during the day. Would not surprise me if it's a hidden modifier that the RB gained part way through since I can't imagine an SK getting a free day shot too.

Found it. I guess I'll buy Lyner's explanation, but I definitely read it originally as Joker and Slade being the mafia team, and Lyner just knowing there were 3 scum factions.Actually Joker and Slade can't be a single team.Joker always acts alone. That's one of the key characteristic of Joker. If this is another trick to get sometime to sympathize with Joker's character, then I'm all about it lol.

Found it. I guess I'll buy Lyner's explanation, but I definitely read it originally as Joker and Slade being the mafia team, and Lyner just knowing there were 3 scum factions.

LWW the nights you were blocked who did you target Perhaps they have an asthetic modifier I've been blocked on Nadarr, Kevin, and Lyner. I was not blocked on my first investigation which was Velocity.

Frankly it's probably Lyner. He made a comment early on (after Velocity got killed but well before Nadarr did) that there were 3 scum factions, which I thought was a really interesting comment at the time since we only knew of two by that point: Velocity and the assumed presence of a mafia team. I'd have to go back and find it which is hard on mobile but it screamed very informed minority to me.