Man...you just keep digging a hole for yourself.

Now I'm pretty sure that you are scum.

 

Track me down a shovel, will ya? It's really a pain doing it with my hands.

 

But, really, why's that? Because I think Narsis is a competent mod?

It was a strategy that would have worked in favour for the town.

People who ignored a winning strategy usually ends up on my suspect list.

 

No, it wouldn't.

However, we're never going to agree with each other. Shall we move on?

Creative, he says

Creative, I'll be

 

Lynching

is

not

best

for

the

town!

 

We don't really know who is scum and there is more downside than upside to "randomly" killing somebody off.

 

Okay, creative you are. I'll give on that one.

 

 

That's why I have a no-lynch vote though, at least for the moment. I'm not much for the random right now, though once again I have a couple ideas... for different reasoning than ya'll have. I'm actually not too sure mole is scum, but then that's just a gut feeling I guess.

Track me down a shovel, will ya? It's really a pain doing it with my hands.But, really, why's that? Because I think Narsis is a competent mod?

 

 

No, it wouldn't.However, we're never going to agree with each other. Shall we move on?

 

I also think Narsis is a compentent mod...so we'll just leave it at that.

 

We probably won't see eye to eye since I've got it in my head that you're mafia.

So yeah...let's agree to disagree.

 

 

It could be that I'm reading too much into KevinH's post and maybe seeing (or wishing) something there that really isn't.

It's happened to me in past games.

However, several people have claimed to see the hint as well...so maybe I'm not totally off my rocker.

Or maybe we're all just nodding our heads to satisfy your claims. I've seen no such hint I simply know what KevinH expects us to follow through.

I'm doing my best to advocate the best townie strategy.

 

I'm sure there are well-meaning townies that want to lynch now but I want them to acknowledge that 2 mis-lynches means the end of the game whereas a no-lynch and a mis-lynch means one more chance (with more information).

Or maybe we're all just nodding our heads to satisfy your claims. I've seen no such hint I simply know what KevinH expects us to follow through.

 

 

Perhaps...or perhaps they do see what I see.

Not everyone is claiming that so you would have to think why would they?

 

As for you...

Maybe you're townie that hasn't seen the hint.

Or maybe you're mafia that doesn't know.

No it isn't : \

 

Sheesh...I guess you were the only one to see the same hint as I did.

 

In all honesty, I did not read past the third page, since I was pretty sure I saw what you were referring too. Anyway, lets just say his example there was well chosen.

In all honesty, I did not read past the third page, since I was pretty sure I saw what you were referring too. Anyway, lets just say his example there was well chosen.

 

 

I can guess what you are saying.

So I will continue to believe that you are townie.

I'm doing my best to advocate the best townie strategy.

 

I'm sure there are well-meaning townies that want to lynch now but I want them to acknowledge that 2 mis-lynches means the end of the game whereas a no-lynch and a mis-lynch means one more chance (with more information).

I do acknowledge that but I disagree with the timing of your no lynch. Having an even number of players is in the disadvantage of the town since the game will end one day earlier than with an odd number. So in that regard we could go for a no lynch. However, I have always felt that the no lynch should come at the time of the Lylo situation. There it forces the mafia to kill one more players narrowing down our suspect list before we must make the final decision. However, we could also have a doc. If we lynch today and he saves someone tonight, we will end up with an odd number of players without having to do a no lynch. So in my opinion the no lynch strategy due to an even number of players should only be used as a last resort. If we have no confirmed scum and we are at lylo, we can give our cop one more night or we will at least force the mafia to reduce the number of suspects by one. But until that time we should try to lynch scum.

However, I have always felt that the no lynch should come at the time of the Lylo situation. ... However, we could also have a doc.

 

I don't want to lose townies so that our odds of guessing correctly later are improved.

 

I hope we have a doc and that he is successful (several times hopefully!)

 

Nevertheless, we have a 70% chance of picking a townie if we lynch now and no real information to reduce the chances. After a night-kill and a new battlefield, we'll have better chances with a lynch.

 

I stongly disagree with a lynch now and don't lynch Day 2 strategy.

I don't want to lose townies so that our odds of guessing correctly later are improved.

 

I hope we have a doc and that he is successful (several times hopefully!)

 

Nevertheless, we have a 70% chance of picking a townie if we lynch now and no real information to reduce the chances. After a night-kill and a new battlefield, we'll have better chances with a lynch.

 

I stongly disagree with a lynch now and don't lynch Day 2 strategy.

 

Maybe it's the alcohol talking....(I'm pretty drunk right now)...but KevinH is kinda making sense.

The difference in this game is the battlefield compared to other games.

I'm not sure if the info can benfit the town much since everyone has posted according to their own agenda and not to a specific plan.

 

(this took 5 minutes to post).

 

:drinks:

lol drunken posting

 

and i do agree with that

 

if they were posting acording to a plan we would know more than what has currently happened

Deadline is tomorrow. No action still has consequences.

 

My ideas make sense if you've been drinking.

Deadline is tomorrow.

 

OK. I agree that I'll get more information than normal through a NL, and since we're not going to achieve a lynch before deadline, let's give this a shot.

 

Unvote

Vote: No-lynch

OK. I agree that I'll get more information than normal through a NL, and since we're not going to achieve a lynch before deadline, let's give this a shot.

 

Unvote

Vote: No-lynch

Right, you just went from voting KevinH for voting no lynch to voting no lynch yourself. You are really not helping your cause.

Right, you just went from voting KevinH for voting no lynch to voting no lynch yourself. You are really not helping your cause.

 

Let's say I've reconsidered. I'm willing to try this out a few reasons, none of which I'm going to share for... a few reasons which are different to the first few.

“The most terrible job in warfare is to be a second lieutenant leading a platoon when you are on the battlefield.” - Dwight David Eisenhower

 

The "It's Almost Deadline" VC

 

molestargazer (4) - Nerau, CanucksDynasty, ccabal86, Martino

No Lynch (3) - KevinH, Alasdair, molestargazer

Alasdair (2) - Kaziocore, ChaosHawk

 

Not voting (1) - Kasabian

 

Deadline is going to be whenever I get around to it tomorrow. also remember that it takes 6 lynch, but only 3 at deadline.

Edited September 11, 201016 yr by Narsis

My actions certainly appear scummy to some of you.

 

Indeed, there's nothing I can say to rebut them - I did what I felt like at the time that would help the town.

- I stated my confidence in there being no third parties based on the battlefield being 2-way, and my knowledge of setups.

- I opposed the midday plan because I thought it wouldn't work. You should know this one by now.

- ONE of the reasons I switched to No Lynch because the maths honestly made sense about when we'd be losing. I thought I'd give it a go. I voted on principle that Day 1 no-lynching is always anti-town. Maybe I was wrong, but I hope to god I'll live to find out. And to be quite honest, I hope I'm proved wrong so I can go back to voting for KevinH without remorse for it.

 

Now, I'd like to ask you something - if I were scum, or in any way hostile to the town, would I really be so stupid to do such things? To blatantly state my confidence in there being no 3rd parties? To oppose a plan which the majority of the town were for? To switch my vote to a KevinH-style no-lynch? I have done very little apart from attract attention today, and I've drawn the flak for it.

 

If I die, I hope you realise that different does not necessarily mean scummy - and I know you'll really regret it. Not just a little bit. But quite a lot.

“The most terrible job in warfare is to be a second lieutenant leading a platoon when you are on the battlefield.” - Dwight David Eisenhower

 

The "It's Almost Deadline" VC

 

molestargazer (4) - Nerau, CanucksDynasty, ccabal86, Martino

No Lynch (3) - KevinH, Alasdair, molestargazer

Alasdair (2) - Kaziocore, ChaosHawk

 

Not voting (1) - Kasabian

 

Kaziocore, ChaosHawk, and Kasabian: Choosing to leave your votes where they are is choosing to see Molestargazer lynched at deadline.

 

Nerau, CanucksDynasty, ccabal86, and Martino: You can always vote for Molestargazer tomorrow.

... and by inaction, everyone is sealing the fate of Molestargazer and possibly denying the chance at Day 3.

 

So let it be written.

Allright, fine. You convinced me, but I hope the maths works out. Let's wait for the battlefield update.

 

Unvote

Vote: No-lynch

vote: no lynch

Wow, my leadership style must have improved.

 

I think we have to disregard mole's last post in the count.

 

Here are some thoughts in case I get night-killed.

 

In this game more than any, if CD is alive on Day 2, he's probably scum. I say this not for the normal reason that scum would kill off a veteran unless he one of their own, but that scum would want to kill off the highest townie post count. However, look at the battlefield and if the townies are winning, then CD is probably leading the charge as a townie.

 

Mole summed up the case against him nicely and I'll respond to his question "would I really be so stupid to do such things?"

One word: WIFOM. I guess that's an acronym rather than a word but you get the point.

 

With the battlefield posted, look at the percentages and consider that 3 scum have to have total posts to reach their post count. If I'm dead and CD's alive, it might be possible to conduct an analysis that concludes if CD is scum, then the other two scum would have to be the lowest post-counts. It would be safer to test that case by lynching the lowest post-counts rather than CD.

 

If there is a cop, I would suggest investigating someone in the middle of the post-counts. It won't help to get an investigation back on someone that was night-killed. If there is a doc, I would suggest protecting someone with a relatively high post-count.