If the assumption of 3 scum is wrong, then we could add

• 
   
  
• KevinH + Kasabian = 44 (just in the interest of full disclosure)
  
• Molestargazer + Chaoshawk = 45
  

 

 

But but...it's D2 and I'm alive...aren't I'm scum?

 

 

I thought about the 3rd party as well.

And if those are the 2 options...then I would go with mole + chaos.

 

Cuz there would be no reason for Kasabian to vote no lynch if you and he were mafia.

Chaoshawk voting no lycnh would for certain save mole from a lynch.

It would also explain his past and recent defence of mole.

 

But still...I think it's 3 scum we are dealing with.

vote molestargazer

Should have been done yesterday.

 

Kasabian and Chaoshawk voted no lynch to seal the deal.

 

The question that needs to be asked is why would mafia have left molestargazer live?

 

 

Im not a scum but i'll have to ask, does this mean you wanted to lynch mole? a townie? come on dude what's with you? are you really trying to help us scum hunt or not?

 

 

 

From KevinH math...this is the group I'm leaning towards.

Molestargazer + Alasdair + Kasabian = 43

 

Kasabian voted no lynch which pretty much meant the no lynch would happen (ie. 5 votes).

 

 

Vote: Kasabian

 

:lolcharge: I totally expected you voted for me , i'll just say that you made a huge mistake, you just voted for a townie my friend, bad move, it's like you don't want to help us hunt the scum.

 

Like Martino, I still think using our vote than choosing no-lynch is better

that's why I was disappointed when people suddenly switched their votes.

 

One person piqued my interest.

Kasabian's posted on Sept 10. (minus points too for not telling the right one)

Suspiciously, he posted only on Sept 13 and that is when people started switching to no-lynch.

He's the one who dropped the no-lynch hammer. He hasn't even put any text accompanying

his vote. And also minus points for also being the most inactive in the game.

 

 

Also lol for the irony.

 

Anyway my default vote for this day is...

 

Vote: Kasabian

 

 

Unless I'm convinced of the benefits of no-lynching or choosing another suspect (2nd right now is Alasdair probably bec of being inactive)

 

a hasty vote huh, haha i like when ppl votes againts me, it always push me to post more.

 

Yea i posted on the 13 but did you occur to ask at least why i did that? let me check the post after the update ..... no you didn't , i was havin RL problems as well problems with my internet network and i wasn't able to connect to a pc, i could check in true my blackberry which was slow as hell to the forums to be able to vote, i voted no lynch for the specific reason that i didn't had evidence to accuse someone of being a scum, as well i didn't put any comments accompanying my vote because the phone was so lagged that i couldn't do anymore but wrote the vote, and i still am having problems with my pc, my keyboard is half-broken , despite you won't see me posting to much on D1.

 

 

Which are the benefits of the no-lynch? easy, didn't you knew what happened? apparently we all are alive still so the no-lynch came out really great , isn't? Apparently there is a Doc amoung us that saved the day who knows if we choose to no-lynch again, he save the day again.

 

But no-lynching isn't a game with have to play forever, i mean we have to lynch the scum sometime, am i right?

 

Im not voting you because you voted me, im voting you because you fit into a combination of post that sum the number of post that the scum have that are CH+nerau +kaziocore(you)

 

Vote: Kaziocore

The question that needs to be asked is why would mafia have left molestargazer live?

 

that puzzles me but i can guess that there were bigger fish and the threat looming over head but still its a guess

 

Actually, why wouldn't a townie be voting for no-lynch? FOS: Nerau, Martino, Kaziocore (and CanucksDynasty, too! Shame on you!)

 

there was the one time i believe in no lynch but most of time i do not support the idea

One thing is for certain: we can't afford to no-lynch again. We got lucky this time, but it won't stay like that forever.

Kasabian the thing is that you are only active when you are being targetted or discussed. Even if you are townie you aren't helping the town and it's not hard to see you as an inactive scummy. You did it last round. However, I do think Kaziocore is mafia but simply riding along with the generally agreed upon townies but I am leaning towards you being a scum due to your inactivity. ccabal86 makes a good point; Alasdair and Kasabian have been inactive and rather distant from us and someone should be lynched today. KevinH's plan of no lynch on day one was helpful to see the percentage's to give us a gauge but now is the time to act. I would rather vote for Alasdair but Kasabian has a better chance of being lynched unlike Alasdair, maybe next time.

 

Vote: Kasabian

Kasabian the thing is that you are only active when you are being targetted or discussed. Even if you are townie you aren't helping the town and it's not hard to see you as an inactive scummy. You did it last round. However, I do think Kaziocore is mafia but simply riding along with the generally agreed upon townies but I am leaning towards you being a scum due to your inactivity. ccabal86 makes a good point; Alasdair and Kasabian have been inactive and rather distant from us and someone should be lynched today. KevinH's plan of no lynch on day one was helpful to see the percentage's to give us a gauge but now is the time to act. I would rather vote for Alasdair but Kasabian has a better chance of being lynched unlike Alasdair, maybe next time.

 

Vote: Kasabian

 

Indeed thats a good point i admit that but taking hasty decisions due inactivity? pardon me buddy but i have a life, i can't be all day posting here, somedays i get so tired from work that i don't even check the pc or remember to post here besides i don't like to post to much in the games, know me for that. You'r just using the inactivity motive to vote me, what a cliche, i think you were looking for reasons to vote me and that was the only one you could actually use.

 

In the previous post i told kaziocore my reasons of what i think he's is a scum and the combination of the ppl that are with him, im sticking to that combination which i think those 3 are the scum, what a coincidence you were on that group and just a few minutes later you create a little speech to vote against me, huh :anim_27:

 

I was not going to say anything againts ya yet but since you want to talk lets talk, you stink to scum and thats a fact, that's why i'll putting my FoS on you.

 

FoS: Chaoshawk

I've been using inactivity as a motive to vote people, that isn't anything new. It's a scum hunt with less of a risk to get rid of active players and cause us to lose a significant amount of battlefield to the enemy. I understand if you're busy but if you're too busy to participate I suggest playing this when you have the time. However, it seems you are less 'busy' when targeted.

I've been using inactivity as a motive to vote people, that isn't anything new. It's a scum hunt with less of a risk to get rid of active players and cause us to lose a significant amount of battlefield to the enemy. I understand if you're busy but if you're too busy to participate I suggest playing this when you have the time. However, it seems you are less 'busy' when targeted.

 

Do you think that if i were a scum i would have been inactive knowing that that is a reason to vote for someone, im not a scum believe me, you will know me in every game for not being the active one, i don't play like that, i prefer to have evidence or something that back up my vote againts x person.

 

Sure , i have to be more active when i get targeted because i have to defend myself againts the x person that vote for me.

You could have left your vote on Alasdair instead of switching.

It would have resulted in the same outcome.

 

Indeed...KevinH math supports that both he and I are townies but not molestargazer.

 

 

Townies

CD (most posts)

KevinH (2nd most posts)

 

Who I strongly think are townies

Kaziocore (wanted mid-day update asap)

Martino (wanted mid-day update asap)

ccabal86 (he changed his vote...if he were mafia then mole should be mafia but the math doesn't add up...so by default = townie).

 

Unknown

Chaoshawk

Nerau

Kasabian

molestargazer

Alasdair

 

I agree that the most suspicious individuals are in the "Unknown" category. I also think a high-poster is mafia, otherwise the townies would have gained more ground. I must say, I'm really suspicious of molestargazer, but for now, I support the idea of lynching a low post count member to avoid losing too much ground if we happen to be wrong. Since Kasabian is in the lead, I'm voting for him too

 

FoS: molestargazer

Vote: Kasabian

Btw, the votes are:

 

Kasabian: 4

molestargazer: 1

Kaziocore: 1

I agree that the most suspicious individuals are in the "Unknown" category. I also think a high-poster is mafia, otherwise the townies would have gained more ground. I must say, I'm really suspicious of molestargazer, but for now, I support the idea of lynching a low post count member to avoid losing too much ground if we happen to be wrong. Since Kasabian is in the lead, I'm voting for him too

 

FoS: molestargazer

Vote: Kasabian

 

You ain't doing anything but placing a random vote my friend, you told at the begining you were learning how to play and stuff, well not because everyone is voting againts someone it means they are right.

 

Believe me, you are doing the wrong thing, im a townie.

 

It was similar to the previous game, everyone thought Nerau was a scum because he was accused to be lurking or inactive, everyone thought he was a scum for that, they all voted him and what happened? they lynched a townie and instantly lose the game. It's similar here, not because im inactive or not posting to much it means im a scum.

Btw, the votes are:

 

Kasabian: 4

molestargazer: 1

Kaziocore: 1

 

 

I suggest no quick lynches.

We have a week to go before deadline.

We can use that time for more discussion.

 

CD.

Why would we no-lynch here? How quickly people forget.

 

As a townie, I want to gain as much ground as possible, too. Scum will want to lynch a townie with lots of posts. Then they will night-kill a townie with lots of posts. Suddenly they are gaining more ground...

 

Even if we don't get mid-day updates, we can still play with the math at end-of-day updates. More townies alive means a better chance to win. A dead townie by lynch means we will not make it to day 3 no matter what.

I think my analysis shows that we will not win the battlefield anytime soon, nor will we lose on the battlefield quickly if the top two townies are killed.

 

Day 1 (7-3) no-lynch

Night 1 (7-3) townie night-killed

Day 2 (6-3) lynch based on battlefield shift and possible cop investigation (assume worst case a townie is lynched)

Night 2(5-3) townie night-killed

Day 3 (4-3) lynch or lose but have two battlefield shifts and possibly two cop investigations with which to work

 

Alternatively, if we lynch Day 1:

Night 1 (6-3)

Day 2 (5-3) lynch or lose

Night 2 (4-3)

Day 3 (3-3) game over

 

I would much rather have lynches on Day 2 and 3 with more information.

I would much rather have

 

Day 1 (7-3) no-lynch

Night 1 (7-3) failed night-kill

Day 2 (7-3) no-lynch

Night 2 (7-3) townie night-killed

Day 3 (6-3) lynch based on battlefield shift -- worst case, we lynch a townie

Night 3 (5-3) townie night-killed

Day 4 (4-3) lynch or lose but now there are three battlefield shifts to use

 

Isn't it nice to have the extra information? Same argument; it just shifts a day. We can make it to Day 4!

 

Vote: no-lynch

Except on Day 1 we had no info to go off of whatsoever. I agreed to no-lynch so we can at least gain some info before we randomly choose someone to kill off. Now that it's done, I believe further no-lynching is dertimental to our goals.

Im not a scum but i'll have to ask, does this mean you wanted to lynch mole? a townie? come on dude what's with you? are you really trying to help us scum hunt or not?

What makes you so sure that mole is townie ?

 

:lolcharge: I totally expected you voted for me , i'll just say that you made a huge mistake, you just voted for a townie my friend, bad move, it's like you don't want to help us hunt the scum.

That's assuming you're townie which I believe you're not.

 

a hasty vote huh, haha i like when ppl votes againts me, it always push me to post more.

It's a shame that you need to be pressured before posting again.

 

Yea i posted on the 13 but did you occur to ask at least why i did that? let me check the post after the update ..... no you didn't , i was havin RL problems as well problems with my internet network and i wasn't able to connect to a pc, i could check in true my blackberry which was slow as hell to the forums to be able to vote, i voted no lynch for the specific reason that i didn't had evidence to accuse someone of being a scum, as well i didn't put any comments accompanying my vote because the phone was so lagged that i couldn't do anymore but wrote the vote, and i still am having problems with my pc, my keyboard is half-broken , despite you won't see me posting to much on D1.

If you have problems committing to this game please find a replacement as your inactivity can be seen as lurking.

Unless you're mafia that want to take advantage of your situation so that you can give an explanation to your disappearance.

 

Which are the benefits of the no-lynch? easy, didn't you knew what happened? apparently we all are alive still so the no-lynch came out really great , isn't? Apparently there is a Doc amoung us that saved the day who knows if we choose to no-lynch again, he save the day again.

I don't see how having the doc successfully protecting a person a benefit for no-lynching.

With or without the lynch, the doc could have saved one of us.

 

Im not voting you because you voted me, im voting you because you fit into a combination of post that sum the number of post that the scum have that are CH+nerau +kaziocore(you)

 

Vote: Kaziocore

 

Or...

Kaziocore voted me! I need to find some reason to revenge vote Kazio.

Wait there's the post made by KevinH

There's the "reason" I need !

 

Let's just be honest.

Would you even vote for me if

I haven't voted you first?

In the previous post i told kaziocore my reasons of what i think he's is a scum and the combination of the ppl that are with him, im sticking to that combination which i think those 3 are the scum, what a coincidence you were on that group and just a few minutes later you create a little speech to vote against me, huh :anim_27:

 

Okay then what are the reasons you think why Nerau and CH are also scum besides me?

It was similar to the previous game, everyone thought Nerau was a scum because he was accused to be lurking or inactive, everyone thought he was a scum for that, they all voted him and what happened? they lynched a townie and instantly lose the game. It's similar here, not because im inactive or not posting to much it means im a scum.

 

No. That's not the only reason why he was lynched in the previous game.

It's because you're posts were more convincing that you're townie than Nerau.

You might have forgotten that you were also one my suspects and the reason is also of lurking.

 

Also the previous game before that, Nerau also lurked/looked inactive

and we lynched him and turns out that he was scum.

Except on Day 1 we had no info to go off of whatsoever. I agreed to no-lynch so we can at least gain some info before we randomly choose someone to kill off. Now that it's done, I believe further no-lynching is dertimental to our goals.

 

But we can get more information. We can lynch on Day 2 and Day 3. Better yet, we can lynch on Day 3 and Day 4.

 

 

I don't see how having the doc successfully protecting a person a benefit for no-lynching.

With or without the lynch, the doc could have saved one of us.

 

If the doc is successful again, I'll be lobbying for another no-lynch to get us to Day 5!

Which are the benefits of the no-lynch? easy, didn't you knew what happened? apparently we all are alive still so the no-lynch came out really great , isn't? Apparently there is a Doc amoung us that saved the day who knows if we choose to no-lynch again, he save the day again.

No the no lynch did not come out great. It came out horrible, just like it was to be expected. Had we lynched yesterday, we would have been with an odd number of players today and we would have won a day. Instead, we are back to day 1. Which is why I am voting for mole, since he should have been lynched D1.

 

But no-lynching isn't a game with have to play forever, i mean we have to lynch the scum sometime, am i right?

 

Im not voting you because you voted me, im voting you because you fit into a combination of post that sum the number of post that the scum have that are CH+nerau +kaziocore(you)

 

Vote: Kaziocore

You fit into that category even better. So I suppose that makes you the perfect D3 target?

What makes you so sure that mole is townie ?

 

What makes you sure then he isn't? You'r just guessing he his a scum and not giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

 

That's assuming you're townie which I believe you're not.

 

Sure think that, go on with the vote and kill a townie.

 

It's a shame that you need to be pressured before posting again.

 

 

If you have problems committing to this game please find a replacement as your inactivity can be seen as lurking.

 

I can commit to the game, just sometimes no daily or no posting to much, i've always try to remain low profile whether im a townie or not.

Unless you're mafia that want to take advantage of your situation so that you can give an explanation to your disappearance.

 

!Oh wow, it seems you have it all figured it out!, come on dude, stop making assumptions and start hunting the real scum not the townies as me

I don't see how having the doc successfully protecting a person a benefit for no-lynching.

With or without the lynch, the doc could have saved one of us.

 

Well i do can see the benefit, a townie remains alive which help us more to hunt the scum. Maybe you can't see it because you ain't a townie.

 

 

Or...

Kaziocore voted me! I need to find some reason to revenge vote Kazio.

Wait there's the post made by KevinH

There's the "reason" I need !

 

Let's just be honest.

Would you even vote for me if

I haven't voted you first?

 

Oh the old sarcasms

 

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/8007/bazzinga.jpg

 

 

I indeed would have voted for you, you fit into what i think is the combination of the scums, just like how CD voted for me which what he thinks is the combination of scums( which he's wrong) i did it, what's the part you still don't understand?

 

Okay then what are the reasons you think why Nerau and CH are also scum besides me?

 

Do i have to say it again? maybe write something more easy for you scummie to understand? If im leading towards a combination of 3 players which i think are the scum, then that's the reason, it was you kaziocore + nerau + chaoshawk, if you need more information, read the other post that are in the thread besides mines.

 

No. That's not the only reason why he was lynched in the previous game.

It's because you're posts were more convincing that you're townie than Nerau.

You might have forgotten that you were also one my suspects and the reason is also of lurking.

 

Also the previous game before that, Nerau also lurked/looked inactive

and we lynched him and turns out that he was scum.

 

Sure my post were more convincing , i was a scum in that game, it was either convincing post or get lynched, or don't you remember the game? ...

 

But we can get more information. We can lynch on Day 2 and Day 3. Better yet, we can lynch on Day 3 and Day 4.

 

If the doc is successful again, I'll be lobbying for another no-lynch to get us to Day 5!

 

Indeed that's my point exactly, ppl are taking hasty decisions without information to backup their post besides the inactivity issue, they think i was the less poster im a scum, come on, alasdair , nerau , martino just a few post above me, wow that indeed proof alot of activity

 

Indeed the doc might save the day again, and i'll be going with your move KevinH.

 

Unvote: Kaziocore

Vote: No-lynch

 

Need any accompanying comments with the vote kazio or?

 

No the no lynch did not come out great. It came out horrible, just like it was to be expected. Had we lynched yesterday, we would have been with an odd number of players today and we would have won a day. Instead, we are back to day 1. Which is why I am voting for mole, since he should have been lynched D1.

 

 

You fit into that category even better. So I suppose that makes you the perfect D3 target?

 

It didn't came out horrible, see the upside part, we got the update and a townie remains alive, if you ppl can't see that then idk how you play pro-town or anti-protown, at least you are part of third-party , aren't you?

 

Sure i fit into many categories , that doesn't mean im a scum, as CD said no quick lynch, we still have a few more days to proof which are the real scums.

Well you sure are defensive :/

No the no lynch did not come out great. It came out horrible

 

I think we are in much better shape than Day 1.

 

CanucksDynasty and I are proven townies.

I'm as confident that you are a townie as I am that the post counts are correct (not 100%, but no strong reason to doubt it)

 

If mole is scum, then Kasabian must be scum.

The converse is not true.

Kasabian could be scum but mole could be townie.

 

If we lynch Kasabian and he is townie:

• Mole is confirmed as a townie.
  
• Chaoshawk is confirmed as scum.
  

 

If we lynch Kasabian and he is scum:

• We have one less scum.
  
• Kaziocore is confirmed as townie.
  

 

If we are to lynch today, Kasabian is the best choice.

However, it would be best to wait until tomorrow. More information is more power.

Well you sure are defensive :/

 

When someone said that im a scum yea i have to be defensive because im not a scum, how many times do i have to say it guys, im a townie.

 

If we are to lynch today, Kasabian is the best choice.

However, it would be best to wait until tomorrow. More information is more power.

 

Wow , doesn't even a thank you note ...

 

I still will be going with your move KevinH, whether you think im scum or not.

I think we are in much better shape than Day 1.

 

CanucksDynasty and I are proven townies.

I'm as confident that you are a townie as I am that the post counts are correct (not 100%, but no strong reason to doubt it)

 

If mole is scum, then Kasabian must be scum.

The converse is not true.

Kasabian could be scum but mole could be townie.

 

If we lynch Kasabian and he is townie:

• Mole is confirmed as a townie.
• Chaoshawk is confirmed as scum.

 

If we lynch Kasabian and he is scum:

• We have one less scum.
• Kaziocore is confirmed as townie.

 

If we are to lynch today, Kasabian is the best choice.

However, it would be best to wait until tomorrow. More information is more power.

With mole dead, we would have also been able to clear you and CD. So the no lynch did not help in that regard. In fact, since I am still convinced mole is scum, lynching him would have given us a far larger battlefield advantage and would have really gone a long way to identifying the scum. But even without all the battlefield theories, I'm convinced mole is scum. So we should lynch him today and not tomorrow.