I knew there was something about that guy that rubbed me the wrong way.

 

I haven't re-read through Day 1 yet so I will save my analysis for later. Right now I'll just give a big howdy-ho to CD, who is also probably guilty by the way.

Those two also ganged up on you with BeeBs. I'm thinking that he should also be taken into consideration when we are choosing who to vote for.

 

FOS-BeeBs

 

I'd submit that while I laid out and debated my positions on that matter they both pretty much said, "okay". I don't think I deserve the heat for that. I never solicited them to join me at all. I hope you can see that.

 

@KF2001: I don't think in this game the cop's moves will be auto revealed, so it will be up to the cop to decide when/how/why to roleclaim and what information to provide.

I'd submit that while I laid out and debated my positions on that matter they both pretty much said, "okay". I don't think I deserve the heat for that. I never solicited them to join me at all. I hope you can see that.

 

Never said that you had them join you at all. It is just that throughout the last day you continued to defend Sir Crocodile and KF throughout the day. You believed that Kaziocore and Imran were in cahoots because of their quick votes on Sir Croc, but when Sir Croc and KF quickly followed suit with your vote you dismissed that as noobs following a more experienced player. You even said at one point (Post #76) that you found both of them very suspicious, but you didn't even think they were suspicious enough for a FOS. ABD was a leading role in the questioning of Sir Croc and KF's actions, and he got nightkilled.

Scum have made an interesting choice by killing ABD. Now, the way I see it, the scum picked him because either (I am just thinking out loud)

 

1) Atleast one of SC and KF2001 is scum and they wanted to reduce the number of people who have them in their FOS.

 

2) Neither of them is scum and they want the town to lynch one of them.

 

3) They mistook ABD's post after nerau's eod declaration as an evidence of him being a townie power role (who made a newbie mistake.. i.e. post instead of PM).

 

At this time, I see nothing that would tempt me to change my FOS..

 

So FOS : KF2001 and CD (hopefully replacing SC)

Will convey my thoughts tomorrow as I'll have time then

It is just that throughout the last day you continued to defend Sir Crocodile and KF throughout the day.

 

I didn't really mean to defend them, I guess. Can you give examples of which posts you mean?

 

You believed that Kaziocore and Imran were in cahoots because of their quick votes on Sir Croc, but when Sir Croc and KF quickly followed suit with your vote you dismissed that as noobs following a more experienced player.

 

I can see why you think this is inconsistant, and I agree it does look that way. I wanted to differentiate between the two of them in cahoots versus the two following me. They both seemed to launch their own independent attacks at Sir Crocodile, while the two following me said nothing. On the one hand, I respect that they both maintained their own positions and both contributed to their combined votes, but I also found it more suspicious, because combined they put more effort into their voices than the three of us did combined. While I saw them as both actively supporting a position, the two following me merely followed. I hope I made that distinction clear.

 

Also, I am NOT an experienced player I really hope I never came off as arrogant or something like that, I was only trying to point out they weren't really contributing and merely just following suit which isn't very helpful.

 

You even said at one point (Post #76) that you found both of them very suspicious, but you didn't even think they were suspicious enough for a FOS.

 

I'm sorry I didn't go through the formality of using the FOS. If it will make my intentions more clear I will use them in the future!

 

ABD was a leading role in the questioning of Sir Croc and KF's actions, and he got nightkilled.

 

This is might be true. However, I guess I just deny that this should lead someone to suspect me for the reasons above.

If we had lynched, there probably would be one less townie.

 

But now I'm betting that somebody knows something.

 

I think we should pick someone to lynch. I'm not sure about whom yet.

In the absence of any information, I'm in favor of lynching Sir Crocodile.

 

If he gets replaced, it wouldn't be nice to lynch the replacement right away.

I am pretty sure Canuk Dynasty is the replacement for SirCrocodile. He showed up right after SirCroc got the traitor mask.

 

Anyway I am in favor of lynching SirCrocodile as well (or his replacement) because of reasons posted in my earlier post.

I think sir croc was involved in ABD's death, so I would lynch him too.

Actually, I'd rather lynch KF2001

And it's really hard to find info on his very short posts

Most recent post:

10 Feb KevinH

10 Feb Kaziocore

10 Feb KF2001

10 Feb Imran Ehsan

9 Feb BeeBs

9 Feb ccabal86

9 Feb d3mon

9 Feb reign of terror

8 Feb Electric Mango

30 Jan CanucksDynasty

26 Jan SirCrocodile

I'm leaning toward lynching based on inactivity.

Im in favor of lynching Sir Croc as well.

Allright, read through the thread.

 

After giving it some thought, I don't think SC is mafia, or if he is, he was playing VERY badly. Highlights from his first day:

 

1, He jumps on no-lynch bandwagon

2, He countervotes on kazio

3, He deletes a post

4, He immediately changes his stance on lynching after EM's post, and is now in favor of getting a day 1 lynch through

5, He bandwagons on IE's post and changes his vote to BeeBs

 

He drew quite an attention to himself with these actions. Would mafia kill someone who he was in disagreement with, painting one of their members in even more suspicious? I actually agree with these comments:

 

1) Atleast one of SC and KF2001 is scum and they wanted to reduce the number of people who have them in their FOS.

 

Actually, I'd rather lynch KF2001

And it's really hard to find info on his very short posts

 

All that KF2001 did was:

 

1, Bandwagon on No-Lynch

2, Unvote

3, Bandwagoned on BeeBs

 

His posts were extremely short, and no elaborate reasoning was ever given. It looks like he was really trying to stay under the radar.

 

Now, what further complicates our situation:

 

1,

3) They mistook ABD's post after nerau's eod declaration as an evidence of him being a townie power role (who made a newbie mistake.. i.e. post instead of PM).

 

This is also a possibility. This would indicate that the Mafia themselves are inexperienced players

 

2,

 

SC was labelled a traitor since the start of this game, which means he's out. We also got no confirmation from Mod that he was replaced. IF he is scum, then his fellow Mafia might try to "make him useful" so to speak, and sacrifice him with a vote now. Then they can later claimed they assisted in killing a mafia, and use this to support their Townie image.

PS: I really hope SC is replaced. If not, then we might as well go and take him out regardless since his persona is no more than dead weight. If a replacement can be found, I'd Vote: KF2001

ccabal86, I think that makes some sense. However, I think that KF2001 is also just new and not familiar enough with the game to provide much more than the scum tells you pointed out. No offense buddy!

 

It seems like a few things in your list tow the same line against SirCrocodile. i.e. not understanding why you shouldn't delete a post etc.

 

That said, I don't know that I would count that as an excuse. In that case, it sounds like one is scum for being over active and one is scum for being underactive and at that point I just have to throw my arms up...

 

Kaziocore can you explain a bit why you think KF2001 is scum, or is it just that he has short posts?

 

I think for now I'll renew my suspicions from yesterday. FOS Imran Ehsan i don't have anything new to add, I'm just not settled on either SirCrocodile or KF2001 yet, though I could certainly be persuaded towards a vote for either one. I'd like to see if SirCrocodile gets a confirmed replacement before voting for him. If the replacement does come into the game with a bit of pressure already on them, it might be very telling about their underlying role.

The question should be why shouldn't KF2001 be lynched.

 

All the obvious reasons are already pointed by ccabal86.

All of his posts are short because either he's deliberately

making it impossible to "read" his posts or he's not putting

to much effort in playing the game. Both of which are good

reasons for lynching.

 

Imagine, if there is a cop, his ability would be wasted on

players like KF2001.

SC was labelled a traitor since the start of this game, which means he's out. We also got no confirmation from Mod that he was replaced. IF he is scum, then his fellow Mafia might try to "make him useful" so to speak, and sacrifice him with a vote now. Then they can later claimed they assisted in killing a mafia, and use this to support their Townie image.

 

Very nice post ccabal86. I agree with it, especially the quoted part. Since Mod has not confirmed whether CancksDynasty is a replacement for SirCroc, it is making things a lot more complicated. Lynching SirCroc is pointless at the moment as it is clear he will not be participating in this game anymore. Without confirmation that CD is a replacement (and specially since he himself has refrained from making any more posts since his initial one) we may also be lynching someone on whom basically we have no information on.

 

KF2001 however seemed to be working in cahoots with SirCroc and I will be agreeable to lynching him unless it is confirmed that CD is a replacement for SirCroc.

If SirCroc (or anyone for that matter) is inactive, it really hurts at the end of the game when every vote is needed for a lynch. We need to position ourselves for that point in the game.

 

However, a dead townie is no better than an inactive townie, but an inactive scum won't night-kill so there is some logic for leaving SirCroc alone.

 

If we can find the other active scum, than an inactive scummy SirCroc won't hurt us.

 

I'm talking myself out of a vote for SirCroc.

 

Deadline is approaching, let's make a decision.

I think we should go for KF2001 then.

Sir Croc can't access the forums due to his current mask (Traitor).

 

You might wish to have him replaced.

This might come back to bite me in the ass but imho lynching an inactive (SC) is better than lynching KF2001.

 

Vote: SirCroc

 

@KF2001

 

The lack of content in your posts is not helping the town.

Vote: KF2001

 

It seems to be boiling down to KF2001 and SirCroc and I think SirCroc is the less scummy between the two. I'm also still suspicious of demon who seems to want to keep KF2001 alive.

 

I suspect that if KF2001 comes up scum then so will demon.

Vote: SirCrocodile (or his replacement)

As I said earlier, I think SirCroc had something to do with ABD getting killed

I'm gonna have to go with KF2001 as my target.

 

Vote-KF2001